How much more for a gun w/box?
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The older the gun, the more valuable the box. The box, in some cases, has collector's value similar to the firearm.
Newer guns, however, have no such value in the box. IMO, it's just a ad slogan for a newer gun.
Newer guns, however, have no such value in the box. IMO, it's just a ad slogan for a newer gun.
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A guy on S&W forums paid more for a box as he did for a Registered Magnum. It completed a set for a one of the few Registered Magnum that came from the factory as a 5" factory nickle. But he has a complete set of box, tools, registery certificate, original factory letter, and a very unique gun.
Edited to reflect the fact that I had been misinformed and I have been corected in a positive and respectful manner.
Thanks to The Illusive 33
I hope he posts around here more often.
Edited to reflect the fact that I had been misinformed and I have been corected in a positive and respectful manner.
Thanks to The Illusive 33
I hope he posts around here more often.
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Older guns the comments posted before are valid.
Blue book assigns value @ 10%. So the best a gun without the box could be is 90%.
I have also seen 5% and 2% penalty but hold to the 10% and there are no errors.
Look under the detailed explaination of how values are determined, it is pretty well laid out.
Remember the blue boof is a guide, and regional variations in rarity, and desirability effect the guide numbers.
Blue book assigns value @ 10%. So the best a gun without the box could be is 90%.
I have also seen 5% and 2% penalty but hold to the 10% and there are no errors.
Look under the detailed explaination of how values are determined, it is pretty well laid out.
Remember the blue boof is a guide, and regional variations in rarity, and desirability effect the guide numbers.
dogngun
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I have found the 10% to be pretty valid, but there is also the factor of age, condition, etc. I nearly paid $60 for a ramshackle box for a 6" S&W revolver, because it was made in 1917.
Someone else bought it while I was making up my mine.
Mark
Someone else bought it while I was making up my mine.
Mark
For collector guns, there are two expressions used, "NIB" or "new in the box", which means that the gun is in its original box, with all normal accessories/papers, and has never been fired. "LNIB" is "like new in the box", meaning that the gun is in its original box, and may have been fired or handled, but shows no noticeable wear or handling marks. There are many refinished "NIB" guns with fake boxes (especially U.S. Model 1911A1 pistols), but if genuine, the box can add 10%-50% to the value of the gun.
Ordinary guns are usually just described as "with box", and the premium is seldom more than 5%-10% if that. I do suggest that unless storage space is at a premium, the purchaser of a new gun should keep the box, along with cleaning rod, manual, warranty card (if you don't send it in), test target, and any other material in the box. It does add value later on.
Jim
Ordinary guns are usually just described as "with box", and the premium is seldom more than 5%-10% if that. I do suggest that unless storage space is at a premium, the purchaser of a new gun should keep the box, along with cleaning rod, manual, warranty card (if you don't send it in), test target, and any other material in the box. It does add value later on.
Jim
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Apparently someone thinks the boxes are valuable
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=23224280
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=23224280
Thank you, all
Good information. In this particular case, the box is not worth much. The seller is not the original owner and the box is probably not the original box. I did not find this out until you guys provided some help. Thanks for clearing things up for me.
P.S. for a few reasons, I did not make an offer on this gun.
Good information. In this particular case, the box is not worth much. The seller is not the original owner and the box is probably not the original box. I did not find this out until you guys provided some help. Thanks for clearing things up for me.
P.S. for a few reasons, I did not make an offer on this gun.
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I've picked up boxes on e-bay-about the only place you can find them for sale-for two of my Pythons that were boxless. One was complete with all the papers and was unserialed, so it matched my gun perfectly. I'm not necessarily trying to increase the value of the individual gun, I just enjoy having the box. I've seen two "black boxes" for Colt 2nd gen. SAA's that went for over $300 each, so obviously the box is more than desirable if you own one of these. Then there are box collectors.......
I've picked up boxes on e-bay-about the only place you can find them for sale-for two of my Pythons that were boxless. One was complete with all the papers and was unserialed, so it matched my gun perfectly. I'm not necessarily trying to increase the value of the individual gun, I just enjoy having the box. I've seen two "black boxes" for Colt 2nd gen. SAA's that went for over $300 each, so obviously the box is more than desirable if you own one of these. Then there are box collectors.......
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