JImbothefiveth
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I may stop by a gun shop tommorow, and I will be comparing a ruger .22 to a 1911. The only question is: how do I compare them? I have no experiance with handguns, and am not sure what to do.
Thanks!
Thanks!
How to compare?
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chipperi
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Man you are talking apples and oranges there is no comparison. If you want to learn gun handling and shoot for fun (plinking) at a very low cost go wit the Ruger ther .22 are some of the best quality for plinking and very accurate. If you want a carry or home defence gun that has a lot more punch yet is still very accurite but relitivly expensive to shoot go with a 1911. I suggest you go to a range that rents and try them both out.
MICHAEL T
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You can't compair 22 and 45 are way to different. If no experiance and just plinking ot target shooting get 22
After you know more then 45 . After that you fill in a calibers inbetween at least twice.
After you know more then 45 . After that you fill in a calibers inbetween at least twice.
Let's confuse the guy more and direct him towards a Ruger 22/45--1911 grip-angle/control-placement, .22LR bullets.
What do you want the gun for? Handgun practice and familiarization? Get the .22. Defense? Get the .22, and then later when you've figured it out (i.e. you don't flinch when you pull the trigger), get the .45.
What do you want the gun for? Handgun practice and familiarization? Get the .22. Defense? Get the .22, and then later when you've figured it out (i.e. you don't flinch when you pull the trigger), get the .45.
JImbothefiveth
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I want this for target shooting, and to learn to shoot handguns. By "compare to", I mean I will see which ruger is most similiar to the centerfire pistol, especially in regards to the grip angle. I already shoot rifles and shotguns, but this will be my first handgun.
Also, I've often heard people say "feel which one fits your hand best", in regards to handguns. What does this mean, and how do I feel?
Once I've decided which ones are closest to the centerfires, I'm going to see which one of these is right for me.
My current plan to compare them against each other is to see how well they point. To do this, I'm going to close my eyes, and try to point it at a target, maybe a mounted deer head , and see how close it comes. Does that sound like a good test to you? Or should I test some differant way?
The dealer I will go to does not have a range, but he might let me dry-fie it, I have a few .22 snap caps.
Also, I've often heard people say "feel which one fits your hand best", in regards to handguns. What does this mean, and how do I feel?
Once I've decided which ones are closest to the centerfires, I'm going to see which one of these is right for me.
My current plan to compare them against each other is to see how well they point. To do this, I'm going to close my eyes, and try to point it at a target, maybe a mounted deer head , and see how close it comes. Does that sound like a good test to you? Or should I test some differant way?
The dealer I will go to does not have a range, but he might let me dry-fie it, I have a few .22 snap caps.
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Just a thought. If you want your 22 to operate like your 1911, buy a 1911 and a 22 adapter kit. Put the 22 kit on to learn then, when you are ready, but the 45 upper back on.
Two pistols, one back ground check.
A Rock Island 1911 can be had new for about $400 and the 22 to kit goes about $250.
Two pistols, one back ground check.
A Rock Island 1911 can be had new for about $400 and the 22 to kit goes about $250.
JImbothefiveth
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Allright, I compared some of them, and I have two questions. 1:What's the proper way to hold a pistol 1 handed, and does that bump on the back of a glock's grip help you grip it right?(I ask because it made me grip differently, and it pointed so well.)
2:Should the grip feel very tight when I grip it 2-handed, almost uncomfortably tight, because it felt that way with the glock and the regular mark III?
2:Should the grip feel very tight when I grip it 2-handed, almost uncomfortably tight, because it felt that way with the glock and the regular mark III?
Holding it such that the recoil acts in a straight line with your wrist/arm will give you the most control, both one- and two- handed.
As you've noticed, not all guns will feel the same. Some will 'point' more naturally for you than others. Some will be more spartan, others will be more ergonomic. If a Glock works for you, then go with it.
For semi-autos, a good, firm grip works best, one where the wrist(s) is/are locked (to prevent limpwristing and associated jams). I've read that you should hold it tight enough to just before you start shaking, which guarantees that you've got a good grip.
As you've noticed, not all guns will feel the same. Some will 'point' more naturally for you than others. Some will be more spartan, others will be more ergonomic. If a Glock works for you, then go with it.
For semi-autos, a good, firm grip works best, one where the wrist(s) is/are locked (to prevent limpwristing and associated jams). I've read that you should hold it tight enough to just before you start shaking, which guarantees that you've got a good grip.
JImbothefiveth
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Well, IIRC, the glock made me hold it so the gun would recoil more towards my thumb, so it was partially against my thumb and partially against the web of my hand. The 1911, IIRC, was all in the web of my hand, but it didn't point as naturally. So would the glock actually be bad, causing me to hold it incorrectly?
it should be going into the web of the hand. When you pull the trigger, you should do it with the pad of the trigger finger, not the knuckle--that will help keep the sights on-target. Actually, Todd Jarrett, renowned 1911 shooter, has a pretty good video of how you're supposed to grip a gun:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4584332856867071363
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4584332856867071363
Claude Clay
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get a series 1 kimber 45acp and a kimber 22LR upper. now you have both. good luck
benderx4
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CZ also makes a fine 9mm weapon called the 75B. You can buy a wonderful .22 Kadet kit for it for about $200. Very accurate gun, great feel in the hand, all metal, and the ammo is a bit cheaper than .40 or .45. Good luck!
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