Hunting and SD shotgun??

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I am going to be doing my first turkey hunt here in FL. I do not own a shotgun now but would like to buy a gun for double duty. I have looked at Remy 870, and Mossberg 590 but when I shopped I asked the dealer about home defense. Are these good general purpose "starter" turkey guns also?? Should I buy two, one for defense one for bird??
 
Turkey hunting has grown quickly the last 10 years and so have the options for shotguns. Most every shotgun maker has a combo set up for shotguns. This would be two barrels both long and short as a package deal. Mossberg is a great middle of the road shotgun in this market.
 
I use my 870 turkey gun as my HD shotgun. Specs say it's a 21" barrel, but with the mod or IC choke it's closer to 20". I find it patterns better than my 18" police 870 and the extra barrel length doesn't bother me at all, due to my home lay out. YMMV.
 
The 21" barreled Turkey Express 870 is a great crossover gun. Add a couple shoke tubes to the Extra Full one it comes with and go shoot it until it feels like a body part.

Enjoy....
 
I have to confess I don't know what other barrels if any are available for the Mossberg 590. Maybe one of the Mossberg gurus will weigh in with more info...

As to the 870, you can easily do the one gun/two barrels approach. If turkey hunting is all you have in mind other than HD, the 21" vent rib RemChoke Turkey Gun's barrel will do fine for a one gun/one barrel setup- it's about ideal for lots of stuff in fact. See http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model_870/model_870_express_turkey.asp .

As mentioned, a couple of extra choke tubes (ImpCyl and Mod) should cover everything.

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Another option is buy a simple Mossberg 500 and buy a LE/Tactical Heavy Wall barrel from havlinsales.com while they still have them. They are LE overruns and the supply is not infinite.

Makes a good all purpose 18.5" gun for woods/hunting and HD. Just change choke to match the job.

I'm a dyed in the wood 870 guy but my Mossberg with this setup is quickly becoming a favorite of mine.
 
No, it wouldn't!

Turkey hunting requires a Full or Extra Full choke.

Almost all HD shotguns come with a fixed Cyl bore barrel.
Totally worthless for turkey hunting.

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If you don't mind changing barrels, (very easy on the 870 and 500) one would do very well for both situations.
 
Almost all HD shotguns come with a fixed Cyl bore barrel.
Totally worthless for turkey hunting.

True. But a turkey gun will make a good HD gun, since most turkey guns come with screw-in chokes. AFAIK Remington has a bigger-than-cylinder Remchoke for skeet ("skeet-in", I think). That or an aftermarket cylinder choke will turn the turkey gun into a defensive shotgun for a few bucks.:)
 
Many a turkey has fallen to a guy or gal with a fixed choked IC barrel.

Before screw in chokes, one patterned a shotgun with various loads for tasks to actually know what a shotgun did, not what the barrel said, or box of ammo said, or what some fella down at the hardware store said.

One tweaked the load, much in the same way a pistol, or rifle reloader, works up a load for a handgun or rifle.

Hard shot, even better copper or nickel plated hard shot , more better with Malto-Meal, Grits, Farina, - used as a buffer.
Winchester uses the trade name Grex for their buffering material.

Shot deformation is a Art & Science, as is all of shotgunning as Brister shared.

More pellets do not always mean a more dense pattern...

So one load , was 1 1/8 ozs of my pet shot size, number 5, of nickel plated, hard, with buffer.

To pattern , take a Silver Dollar and trace around it, and shoot that circle at various yardages.

Silver dollar about turkey head size.
Beats chasing down golf balls shot and looking at them...

"Stacking" the load refers to sticking into a fixed choke gun, the more open load for a flushing quail, and a more tight patterning one for the second shot.

A fixed full choke will shoot like a IC, a Mod, and Full, by stacking the loads.

Just me, screw in chokes in my opinion has become a crutch for too many folks, and some correct basics about shotgunning are not being learned, instilled and passed forward.

Not just for hunting, check out the choke tube spinners at a Sporting clay course sometime.

Not to mention, many a varmint has fallen to all sorts of loadings from all sorts of fixed choked barrels...
 
i use my mossberg 500 for all hunting/HD stuff

i have a orignal wood stock for hunting as well as the 28" vented barrel with the accu chokes. then for HD its switched over to the smooth heavy 18.5" barrel as well as a 6position AR style stock and pistol grip as well as a pistol grip front grip. best of both worlds.

plus the mossberg is usually on sale at the local big 5 as a combo with both barrels in synthetic stock for 249.95 not a bad starting point
 
Two guns, three purposes.

I've got a pair of Moss. 500 shotguns. One is a dedicated deer gun, IC choke and low power scope. The other is my general hunting and HD gun. Youth model stock to deal with extra layers during cold months of hunting. Also makes it short enough for the wife to use if needed. Just fill the mag with #4 and put it in the bedroom wall rack.
 
A Bobcat's not a Turkey but this gun didn't take that Bobcat, he's just a poser for the picture when the gun was new. He fell victim to a Redhawk 44 Mag.

But it's a Rem 870 Turkey. I have a Skeet choke, I/C, Mod, Full, and Extra Full Turkey choke for it. With those four choices and selection of ammo, you can do about anything you desire with this gun. Another advantage to me is the Vent Rib barrel. I like the fact that for HD, it's not all black too.

No, it wouldn't!

Turkey hunting requires a Full or Extra Full choke.

And this is not true. Requires is a strong word, too strong. There have been more Turkey killed with fixed choke guns over the years than there has been since the advent of choke tubes. I used to hunt Turkey with a Browning A5 with a 28" modified barrel. Killed many a Turkey with that gun. And guess what, they were all killed with 2 3/4" shells too. Amazing that a non-3 1/2" shotgun would kill a Turkey isn't it? And to add more amazement to it, it didn't have a single brush stroke of camo paint on it either. Nor did it have fiber optic sights, a scope or a built in Turkey call that activates when you rub the left side of the receiver just right. I also had a S&W 1000 with a 26" I/C that took a few.

Don't get me wrong, yes, a tight choke and other features of todays Turkey guns can enhance the experience, no doubt. Heck, I bought one. But required? I don't think so.


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Benelli M1 Super 90.....great HD shotgun, but the pistol grip and cylinder choke make it a disappointing hunting gun. Changed the stock and barrel (w/chokes) and it made the transition nicely.
 
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