Husband shoots man found in bed with wife, police say

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I never understood this. Why shoot the guy? The wife is the cheater. She'll probably just go find another guy.

i go with that one as well.

oh well. "it was a crime of passion, leave it alone" -Helen Seinfeld's opinion

no really, this guy is an IDiot. if he had any sense he would have left and tried to figure how to get the guy locked up for pulling the gun (i know not likely).

the one thing i really don't think guns are good for is lover's disputes.
 
Yeah, my anger would definitely be directed toward my wife, not the other guy. She's the one that swore vows, not him

Well, to me that would depend apon if the other guy was aware of the preexisting relationship. If he did not, then no matter how wronged I might feel, there is really no foul on his part, all the blame for violating vows lays with the spouse. If however he WAS aware, then we are gonna have some words in the very least. Call me old fashioned, but somebody who knowingly transgresses into an exclusive relationship is in the same camp as somebody who busts a window and creeps into anothers home unbidden. Not legally I know, but morally and ethically.
 
don't sleep with other mens wives

:fire:

If you are shot for sleeping with another mans wife imnsho,you're asking for it.
If you decide to be an adulterer,and your one of our THR friends,please be sure to lock your doors and watch your six
 
Key word here is estranged.

"Estranged" does not equal divorced. The estranged spouse is still a married one, and still bound by the oaths they swore. Not to say that justifies any acts of violence should those vows be broken, but if you're married, you do not go around sleeping with other people. It's not a question of whether one spouse "owns" the other, but of honor to the obligations one has willingly undertaken.

A man who breaks his wedding vows is a cad. A woman who does so can be described as a harlot, though to do so is stretching the usage of the world. (Generally "harlot" implies money was somehow involved, though in traditional religious circles it is also be used in the sense of a "sinful" woman.)
 
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I never understood this. Why shoot the guy? The wife is the cheater. She'll
probably just go find another guy.

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There is a OLD joke about a man standing in front of the judge:

Judge: Why did you shoot your wife; you could have shot the man
and got away with it?

Guy: Well, I figured I could shoot her once or shoot a different guy
every week.
 
No angels here for sure

Mr cole had problems on 12/22/2004 also

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/trib/policecourts/s_285904.html

Robert Cole, 43, of 524 Derry Road, Derry, pleaded guilty to violation of the Controlled Substance Drug Device Cosmetic Act. He was sentenced to one year less one day to two years less two days in jail to be followed by probation for two years. He was also ordered to pay a $20,000 fine. On separate charges of violation of the Controlled Substance Drug Device Cosmetic Act, he also pleaded guilty and was sentenced to one year less one day to two years less two days in jail. Sentences are to run concurrent.
 
Gotta love the internet

After i found above i found this too
http://pittsburghlive.com/x/search/s_290373.html
A prisoner on a work-release program allegedly shot a man he discovered in bed with his estranged wife Wednesday morning, police said.
State police at Greensburg have charged Robert Joseph Cole, 44, of 5395 Route 982, Derry Township, with attempted homicide, aggravated assault, three counts of simple assault, two counts of recklessly endangering another person and two counts of making terroristic threats.

According to court documents, Cole left Westmoreland County Prison for the day, went home about 7:30 a.m. and found his estranged wife, Jessica Lynn Cole, asleep with another man, Anthony Calabrace. An argument broke out, and Calabrace picked up a .22-caliber gun.

The three walked downstairs to the kitchen, where a struggle between Cole and Calabrace ensued. Cole wrested the gun from Calabrace and then shot Calabrace in the back of the head.

Trooper Jeanne Martin, a public information officer with Troop A, said Calabrace was taken to Latrobe Area Hospital, where he underwent surgery to remove a fragment of the bullet from his head.

His injury did not appear to be life-threatening, Martin said, noting that he was able to talk to state police at some point during the investigation.

And that's about all that's clear. The rest depends upon who is telling the story.

According to court documents, Robert Cole told police that when he found the two in bed, he yelled, telling them to leave the house. Then, he said, Calabrace grabbed the gun from the side of the bed and cocked it, jumped up and pointed it at his face. Cole said his wife repeatedly told him Calabrace would shoot him.

Cole said he then went downstairs, with the other two following him. He said as he was leaving through the kitchen, he felt the gun pushed into his back. At that point, he began to fight Jessica Cole and Calabrace for the gun, he said. As they fought, the gun went off twice, once toward the floor and once toward the ceiling, he said.

He told police he managed to get the gun and then intentionally shot Calabrace, thinking he had hit him in the shoulder. Cole said he called 911 and waited for an ambulance.

However, Calabrace told police that after Cole woke them up, Cole punched him in the left side of his face. Cole then pulled out a small knife and took a swipe at his wife, he said. Jessica Cole told Calabrace to get the gun, which was on the floor next to the bed. He did, pointed it at Robert Cole and told him to "beat it."

Cole walked downstairs to the kitchen. Calabrace said Jessica Cole put the gun in her purse, and then the two walked downstairs to leave. When they went into the kitchen, Robert Cole grabbed the gun from his wife's purse and pointed it at her, Calabrace told police.

Calabrace said he jumped in front of Jessica Cole and Robert Cole shot him.

Jessica Cole told police that after Robert Cole woke them up, he threatened to kill them. She said she told Calabrace to grab the gun, which was under the mattress. Calabrace did so, and pointed the weapon at Robert Cole.

Then they walked to the kitchen. Cole kept yelling at them, then blocked a door so they couldn't leave. Jessica Cole said her husband took the gun from Calabrace's hand, shot once into the ceiling and then shot Calabrace in the head.

"There are a couple of different versions of what happened, and blame is being cast in several different directions," Martin said. "We're looking at a variety of possibilities as to what truly did happen."

State police forensics officers removed bags of evidence from the large, red brick house yesterday afternoon.

Robert Cole was arraigned in night court before District Justice Mark Mansour and taken to Westmoreland County Prison, where he is being held in lieu of a $100,000 straight bond.
 
gunsmith said:
If you are shot for sleeping with another mans wife imnsho,you're asking for it.
In that same vein, if your wife is sleeping around on you you deserve it. Afterall if you were taking care of business at home, then she wouldn't need to go elsewhere.
 
This is a failure of the criminal Justice system

Mr. Cole was supposed to be in jail :what:

At least thats what mrs Cole thought :eek:
 
In that same vein, if your wife is sleeping around on you you deserve it. Afterall if you were taking care of business at home, then she wouldn't need to go elsewhere.


***? I think some people just shouldn't get married, not that business isn't being taken care of at home. I figure if you meet the right person for you and your right for them, cheating should be a non issue.

Charby
 
Other than pointing a weapon at The Constabulary, this is probably one of the better ways to end up catching a bullet [or several bullets].

Point being..."Don't monkey with another monkey's monkey."
 
In that same vein, if your wife is sleeping around on you you deserve it. Afterall if you were taking care of business at home, then she wouldn't need to go elsewhere.

Forgive me, Cannnibal, but that comment's lack of charity is exceeded only by its ignorance. Some of us two-legged critters are weak. All of us are sinners.
 
In that same vein, if your wife is sleeping around on you you deserve it. Afterall if you were taking care of business at home, then she wouldn't need to go elsewhere.

I have done some couples work, as a therapist, and can honestly say that people don't typically cheat just because of a lack of "business." If you are unhappy in a relationship, fix it or leave. There is no excuse for infidelity.
 
Mr. James said:
Forgive me, Cannnibal, but that comment's lack of charity is exceeded only by its ignorance. Some of us two-legged critters are weak. All of us are sinners.
That's because you missed the fact that my comment was in response to the one I had quoted. As for being "sinners", that doesn't apply to those of us who gave up our imaginary friends after childhood.

SteveS you can see the first line of the above response as well.
 
CC, even if you remove religion from the equation, I still think what gunsmith said has some validity. Though I don't believe that people that have affairs should be shot, I do believe that consistently engaging in that type of behavior is risky and that you are putting yourself in a situation that may have bad results.

I recently read an article by a personal trainer out in California. He worked almost exclusively with married women and was sleeping with most of them. He was asked if he felt what he was doing was wrong and he said no. He was also asked if he was worried about what would happen if he were caught and he said that he didn't worry about that. Ignoring that fact that he is a classless jerk, I thought that he was just setting himself up for something bad. Maybe nothing will happen and he will never be caught. Maybe he will be punished in the afterlife by an imaginary friend...who knows.

Again, I don't condone killing "cheaters," but I'll reserve the majority of my sympathy for people that don't do stupid things.
 
The guy was on work release

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/search/s_290373.html
A prisoner on a work-release program allegedly shot a man he discovered in bed with his estranged wife Wednesday morning, police said.
State police at Greensburg have charged Robert Joseph Cole, 44, of 5395 Route 982, Derry Township, with attempted homicide, aggravated assault, three counts of simple assault, two counts of recklessly endangering another person and two counts of making terroristic threats.

He wasnt supposed to go home to begin with. The guy that got shot actually has a good case against the jail that didnt monitor mr. cole.
 
Mr. James, you wrote,
Forgive me, Cannnibal, but that comment's lack of charity is exceeded only by its ignorance. Some of us two-legged critters are weak. All of us are sinners.
In the context of this thread, I read that to mean that weak sinners who are married should be understood and forgiven, but that those whom they get involved with outside of their marriages, who have not sworn vows to either, just need to know that they will be bound by (and possibly killed because of) the same marriage vows that are being flouted by the people who swore them.

If married people can ignore their own vows but single people may not ignore married people's vows, then there's something odd here.

I know that a person who gets involved with an adulterer (male or female) can be sued by the spouse of the adulterer (some states, all states? I don't know). I'd like to see people either keeping their vows or expecting to pay their own consequenses.

All of that's academic for me, though; the whole song and dance repels me. I won't get romantically involved with anyone who has, for example, typhus, a drug addiction, a history of committing arson, or a marriage (I didn't write, "a former marriage" or "a divorce;" I wrote, "a marriage"). It wouldn't be worth it.
 
Hi, Bob,

I can see how you could read it that way but, no, that isn't at all what I meant. Marriage vows are sacred. They are also, at least in most contemporary Western societies, freely and voluntarily entered into. To violate those vows is a grave matter, one that assaults the single most vital building block of civilization, to wit, the family. I also insist it is a sin against one's spouse and against God, who fashioned us in His image.

What Mrs. Cole did is inexcusable (forgiveness is another matter, and your take on that may depend on which Imaginary Friend or Friends you consort with ;) ). What Mr. Calabrace did is likewise inexcusable. I won't go so far as to say he should have been shot for it, but this messy story doesn't sound like a classic case of aggrieved cuckold attempting to dispatch his rival. It isn't at all clear whether Mr. Cole only shot Mr. Calabrace after being attacked first (who the heck knows?).

The comment about weakness and sinners meant only that, IMHO, all of us are inclined more or less to sin and are in need of God's forgiveness and grace; some of us (e.g., Mrs. Cole) are weaker than others and yield to those temptations more readily.

I won't get romantically involved with anyone who has, for example, typhus, a drug addiction, a history of committing arson, or a marriage (I didn't write, "a former marriage" or "a divorce;" I wrote, "a marriage"). It wouldn't be worth it.

Smart man. :p

And CC, my somewhat visceral response to your comment is a bit more astringent than I intended. I hope you will excuse me.

Bob James
 
Times are hard, you're afraid to pay the fee
So you find yourself somebody who can do the job for free
When you need a bit of lovin' 'cause your man is out of town,
That's the time to get me runnin', and you know I'll be around

I'm a fool to do your dirty work, oh yeah,
I don't wanna do your dirty work no more,
I'm a fool to do your dirty work, oh yeah

Light the candle, put the lock upon the door
You have sent the maid home early like a thousand times before
Like the castle in his corner in a medieval game,
I foresee terrible trouble, and I stay here just the same

I'm a fool to do your dirty work, oh yeah <--------mr. calabrace
I don't wanna do your dirty work no more
I'm a fool to do your dirty work, oh yeah
 
"Estranged" does not equal divorced
In that case seperation leagal or otherwise does not equal divorce. Estranged means seperated from, she had obviously had enough of him and left.
The estranged spouse is still a married one, and still bound by the oaths they swore.
Does that mean all those women sitting in battered shelters waiting for the slow process of divorce to go through are being unfaithful if they find someone else

Should SM have waited for the state to release him from the bondage of his mariage before he went on with his life.
I forgot, he's a man. Different rules apply

Left is left. Unless you believe that you need the states permission to get away from a bad relationship

Or quite possibly she is a gutter slut, but the fact that she was estranged from her husband does not make her so
 
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