I bought a Hi-Point 9mm Carbine

[Doug S]

This is the only one I could find easily. I've seen another reviews which list the OAL as 31.5 and the barrel at 16in. I'm not sure which is most accurate. The carbine is quite a handy size. Comparable to an AK, but more comfortable in regard to buttstock and length of pull. MSRP ranges from $199 to $280 depending on configuration. The one I picked up came with, among other things, a laser sight. The manufacturer lists this particular configuration at $275 in black, & $280 in camo. Seems they can be found for much better prices, and you probably should not pay much more than $200. Mine was at a small shop not known for having the best prices, and they had a price tag of $235 on it.

Model 995 Carbine
Caliber: 9mm Parabellum (also called 9mm Luger, 9X19mm)
Barrel Length: 16.5"
Overall Length: 32.5"
Weight: 5.75 to 6.75 Pounds (depending on accessories)
Stock: All-Weather, Black, High Impact Polymer
Finish: Blued or Chromed Receiver and Barrel Shroud
Sights: Fully adjustable rear Peep sight (Windage and Elevation adjustable)
Magazine: 10 round capacity.

 

[OEF_VET]

I got Kennys back on this one. Their pure crap. I have shot a few and all of the pistols were jamamatics with god awful triggers. Some are down right unsafe. Their the modern saturday night specials. Pure crap. Never tried their carbines but I have no use for pistol caliber pop guns anyway. If I did I would not waste money on a junk gun maker.
Pat

This thread, however, is about the carbines. Therefore, your defense of kennys' back is irrelevant. They (the Hi-Point carbines) are not pure crap. Yes, the pistols are pretty much an abomination upon the sense of sight. They (the pistols) do tend to work. (My first handgun was a Hi-Point 380.) Now, as ugly as the carbines are, and they are quite ugly, they are fully functional.

Of course, if we were going to judge based on looks, the Beretta Storm and the Walther G22 are also pretty dang ugly, as is the Kel-Tec SU-16.

If we're going to judge based on the previous track record of some of the companies' other products, let's look at Beretta, Walther, and Kel-Tec. The Walther P22's are fairly well known for the early models needing repairs. The Kel-Tec P11, chambered in .40 S&W? Would anyone actully be willing to defend this pistol? The P32's are also well known for having issues such as needing a fluff and buff and also they're known to have issues with hollowpoints. Beretta's M9 had a lot of problems with the safeties when they were first sold to the U.S. Army. I personally had a trigger spring on an M9 break while I was using it in Kosovo. That was a pistol which MIGHT have seen a grand total of 2,000 rounds through it during its lifetime.

So, it's pretty obvious to me that you can't judge a product solely based on some of the other products made by the same manufacturer. You also shouldn't judge its functionaltiy based on appearance. Most importantly, you shouldn't pontificate about a products quality if you have ZERO experience with it. It simply makes one look foolish.

 

[BillinNH]

This is the only one I could find easily. I've seen another reviews which list the OAL as 31.5 and the barrel at 16in. I'm not sure which is most accurate. The carbine is quite a handy size. Comparable to an AK, but more comfortable in regard to buttstock and length of pull. MSRP ranges from $199 to $280 depending on configuration. The one I picked up came with, among other things, a laser sight. The manufacturer lists this particular configuration at $275 in black, & $280 in camo. Seems they can be found for much better prices, and you probably should not pay much more than $200. Mine was at a small shop not known for having the best prices, and they had a price tag of $235 on it.

If this was in reply to my request for data, let me apologize for not being clear. I wanted the info on the 45acp version of the carbine. I already have a 9mm.

Thanks.

Bill

 

[bowfin]

I very much like the Hi-Point's sights, but I really need to sit down and figure out how to get a better trigger pull on mine.

I have heard of people being able to clean up and lighten the trigger, and if anyone has any particulars or successful experiences on Hi-Point triggers, I would like to hear what they have to say.

 

[loose cannon]

i shot a friends hp carbine it fed everthing we put in the mags and ejected it smartly to forward right unlike the sub2000 which throws it straight back.

this southpaw would bet the farm on a hp.

 

[50caliber123]

.45acp info

word I received from mkssupply.com, the hi-point website, said first quarter of 2006 it would be available. Also, the magazines are going to be those 9rd magazines their .45acp pistol takes. I'll probably pick one up anyways.


While on the topic of the kel-tec 2000, I heard you should not use non-foreign fmj (no cheap target loads) or hollowpoints. No aluminum/steel cased ammo either

 

[Sharpdogs]

Don't forget the Hi-Point carbine makes a good newbie training tool. It's a great step up from the .22 rifle. I often take it to the range when I am taking a new shooter with me.

 

[foghornl]

I don't own any Hi-Point firearms, but I have shot a couple of the 9MM carbines, and one of the .45ACP pistols.

At one of my recent range sessions, guy in the next lane was shooting a Hi-point .45ACP, and was keeping his shots in the 8-ring @25Yds

Hi-Points are certainly NOT the most AP {Aesthetically Pleasing} *** firearms out there, but they are reasonably accurate, and go Bang! when needed.


***Loosely translates to "Man, this is one pig-butt ugly gun".

 

[Crosshair]

Good news. I loaded up some 9mm for my Hi-Point 995. 30 rounds total, 10 each with either 7.5, 8, and 8.5 grains of Blue Dot powder. I will also bring along some winchester white box as a bechmark. I'll shoot them through my chronograph and post the results when I get out to the range. I really think that the slow powder will improve the performance out of the carbine as compared to a pistol.

 

[Mikee Loxxer]

I don't believe that I've ever heard or read a valid negative comment on the Hi-Point carbines other than, of course, regarding esthetics. They do exactly what they are supposed to do and do it well.

Here's one for you. They have firing pins that are not heat treated. The one on my carbine broke after about 700 rounds. I will send it back to have it fixed under the lifetime warranty and will then sell it. I have no use for a firearm with such poor durability. There is a good reason why they have lifetime warranty. They need it.

Another problem with the carbine is the lack of rigidity in its stock. The thing flexes when fired which can be unpleasant to the shooters cheek. I would rather shoot a Remington 700 in 30'06 with 180 grain hunting loads, for me it is less painful.

 

[jerkface11]

Here's one for you. They have firing pins that are not heat treated. The one on my carbine broke after about 700 rounds. I will send it back to have it fixed under the lifetime warranty and will then sell it. I have no use for a firearm with such poor durability. There is a good reason why they have lifetime warranty. They need it.

Another problem with the carbine is the lack of rigidity in its stock. The thing flexes when fired which can be unpleasant to the shooters cheek. I would rather shoot a Remington 700 in 30'06 with 180 grain hunting loads, for me it is less painful.

Odd i put about 50 rounds of hirtenberger thru mine and it NEVER flexed. I can't even see how one could.

 

[Mikee Loxxer]

The stocks on the carbine are not very rigid at all. When I mention them flexing I am not talking about movement of a dramatic degree but just enough to feel it in your cheek. In fact I would suggest that you grab yours with one hand on the barrrel and the other on the buttstock and try and flex it. I think that you will find they flex quite easily.

 

[Doug S]

I did notice a slight sting on the cheek when shooting. Long-term durability is a concern, but from what I've read, many claim that Hi-Point makes a durable carbine. I will be able to compare it side by side with the Kel-Tec Sub 2000 hopefully this weekend. I put one (Sub 2000) on order today. It should arrive in a couple of days according to the dealer. Only $275 for the G17 version. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if it is out performed by the Hi-Point. The reason why I want one is the larger capacity magazines.

 

[hkmp5g17]

I bought one a few years back for $90. My friends made fun of it because it was ugly compared to my AR's Sig's etc. Put about 1000 rounds through it without a jam (mainly ball but some hollowpoints) Sold it to a friend who wanted a defensive carbine but didn't have much cash.

Despite what you read on the net- there are some few firearms out there that are reliable-AND cheap.

Anthony

 

[BloodyRAzorBlades]

I like that gun, my friend's dad has one and ive shot it a few times. I might buy one in the near future if i get the money and am willing to blow that money off for it.

 

[Cliff]

I've had my Hi-Point carbine for about two years now. It eats all the 9MM I feed it,and it has given me zero problems. A nice little plinker. True,the 10 round mags suck,but so what. Like Defaugh, I have never taken it apart. I also clean the bore and action,and that's it. I suggest you shoot it for awhile,before you form a opinion on it. If they ever come out with some reliable 12-15 round mags for it, I'm buying a bunch. Regardless of what the gloom & doom naysayers are bitchin about this little carbine is a keeper.

 

[Doug S]

I've been doing a little reading over on the KTOG forums. Many malfunctioning Sub 2000's over there. Kinda scarey, maybe I should have just stayed with the Hi-Point . No, I'm looking forward to having two 9mm carbines for plinking, and the Kel-Tec, if reliable will be a good companion to my G17 with a couple of 33 round magazines.

 

[BillinNH]

word I received from mkssupply.com, the hi-point website, said first quarter of 2006 it would be available. Also, the magazines are going to be those 9rd magazines their .45acp pistol takes. I'll probably pick one up anyways.



Thanks for the info. The mag sounds disappointing but like you I will probably still get one. Someone will eventually come out with a bigger mag for it. But 1911 compatibility would have been nice.

I have a Camp Carbine in 45 but it is getting so valuable now I'm reluctant to use it as a knock-around gun.


More quote: While on the topic of the kel-tec 2000, I heard you should not use non-foreign fmj (no cheap target loads) or hollowpoints. No aluminum/steel cased ammo either

Here's the deal. Kel-Tec has become very conservative in their disclaimers in recent years and they want to avoid any complaints or suits so they take stronger stands than necessary on some things. The current Sub2Ks have +P+ rated springs so they say weak target rounds may not cycle the gun. Well, try it and see. I betcha they cycle OK after the spring wears in a little bit. They say aluminum Blazers stick a little and impede extraction. Well, maybe some do in some guns but check yours oui first to see if you have a problem. I don't know what the issue is with steel cases. In fact I haven't heard any caveat from KT on them. My Sub2k has successfully fired all types of ammo and WWB type ammo is what I tend to use most.

Bill

 

[loose cannon]

a carbine caveat,,,

for lefthanded shooters the hipoint wins over the keltec 2k.reason is the kel2k
ejects brass almost straight back,whereas the hipoint throws em forward right.

i purchased a 2k in the g17mag format,it was a really cool concept till i fired it and it fed me a brass snack.as i posted before the hipoint i tryed worked great for me.i eventually ended up trading the 2k off.

 

[dfaugh]

Here's one for you. They have firing pins that are not heat treated. The one on my carbine broke after about 700 rounds. I will send it back to have it fixed under the lifetime warranty and will then sell it. I have no use for a firearm with such poor durability. There is a good reason why they have lifetime warranty. They need it.

Another problem with the carbine is the lack of rigidity in its stock. The thing flexes when fired which can be unpleasant to the shooters cheek.

I guess you better tell that to mind, because, as mentioned, its got about 5000 rounds through it. And I personally, nor anyone else that's shot it (that's ALOT of people, see below), have ever had an issue with the stock flexing.

I second the opinion that its a great "starter" gun...I've taught several people using it...in fact that accounts for about 1/3 of all rounds fired. I start 'em with a bolt action .22, then move to the Hi-point...Every one that shoots it, thinks its "neat"...

 

[hkmp5g17]

Anyone see the new Guns magazine? There's an article on the Hi Point .40 carbine- they liked it. ALSO- they claim it's in use with-

Homeland Security
Tampa (FL) P.D.
Texas Dept of Prisons
and others.

Thoughts?

 

[Adviser 1]

Hi Point

Advanced Technologies makes a conversion kit that makes the hi-point look just like the Beretta...Cheap 50$ or so...hassle to put on but better than spending all that money you sawn the shelf...the differences are so minimal it is amazing.

Good Luck

 

[nwilliams]

Wow, Feb 2006.

Bit of a necrothread

 

[rhinoh]

Yup and the .45 HP promised in 2006 still isn't out

 

[cchris]

Apparently, this was also supposed to come out in August '09 - a less ugly manufacturer stock. It's now almost October and no sign as of yet on the website.

Also, price check on these things, anyone?