I Don’t Like Sport Pistol for 45ACP

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I wasn’t there, nobody saw me, you can’t prove a thing. :scrutiny:
You know, a lot of times you get a better deal on a trade than you do for a purchase. Especially these days when smaller stores are having supply issues.
Just sayin’. No pressure.
Fingers in ears—nananananana!

Just a week ago I resisted going to the big gun show for that very reason, I’d trade!
 
.45 ACP Autocomp ,Bullseye, 231 ,Unique ; Many powders will work but NONE will work as well as those .
I'm just coming around to the 21 St. Century and Autocomp ,it meters superbly super fine and a little goes a long long ways and burns cleaner than any of the old Hercules or Alliant if you prefer powders ,IMO .
 
In 45ACP/9mm, I use Bullseye, BE-86, W-231, AA2, 5, and 7 and like them all and have plenty on hand so I’m not looking for a new powder.

I developed a soft shooting load in 45acp a few years ago using W231. My girlfriend loved it.

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The cases as I recall were a bit sooty, but no unburned powder in the barrel or chamber that I could detect. The front of the gun was also a bit sooty, but cleaned up with a quick wipe with a dry rag. This load was developed for a 3" 1911. Please be aware that the HAP bullet may have a different bearing length than your Acme fmj's, so a change to your COL may be needed.

DISCLAIMER: Use this data at your own risk, always start low and work up (or work down) for your gun.

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I also use Promo/Red Dot for a lot of handgun ammo as it is really cost effective and works well. Pretty much unobtainum presently though as far as I can see. Promo, 700X, and HP38 are my most used non magnum handgun propellants and what I purchase buy the keg. Just sayi'n.

Brownells had both Red Dot and Green Dot about 10 days ago, a couple of days before they lifted their 2 lb per limit so I only was able to get 2 lbs of each.
 
I'm not a big fan of SportPistol, period... and, FWIW, BE-86, either. I don't really think it's the reinvented mousetrap everyone seems to think it is.

I am not trying to change the way you think by any means, but I have found ASP to be cleaner burning in my .45ACP loadings than W231....
I am, however, using near max charges in that load.......more of a "push" than a "snap" IMO............
 
CQB45ACP, "Clays" and Universal work well in .45 acp. Hopefully, you can find some. Clays is super clean, soft shooting. Regular Clays.
I totally agree. For some reason I've always been able to find Clays when I needed it. Good luck.
 
My powder barometer for 9mm and .45ACP is Unique, so understand where I'm coming from.

I am not trying to change the way you think by any means, but I have found ASP to be cleaner burning in my .45ACP loadings than W231....

It's not a bad powder, per se, but it's not All That and a bag of chips, either. When I was working up loads in .45ACP with it, I would get occasions of odd reports and recoil, like they were squibs or something, and being ladder loads, I hand weighed each one, so I know the powder weight was consistent. It was a fair powder in 9mm, but you are talking higher pressures, where I think it works better. I would also opine that bullet seat depth has a LOT to do with how well ASP behaves.

What was the issue with BE-86? I haven't used enough to form an opinion. Thanks.

BE-86 is the only powder that I've ever reached a burn threshold with... in 9mm. I got to a point where unburned powder was dumping on my hand and arm and the velocity plateaued. In .45ACP, I would get complete shifts of POI as I ramped up the charge, more than I have ever seen with any other powder. Best results in .45ACP was at max charge, which translated to pretty heavy recoil. I also tried it in .45 Colt; like ASP, sometimes I would get a very odd, muted report, and an odd recoil impulse. The chronograph told me everything was OK, but it was very unnerving.

Get some WST start at min and work backwards. Works best with 185gr or 200gr LSWC. Makes a very nice soft BE load.

At the same time I was testing both ASP and BE-86, I was also testing WST and W244. WST, long a favorite in my .12ga reloading, made some very accurate and soft-shooting 200grn .45ACP loads. Granted, they were not at top velocity, but if you were looking for a good target load, I wouldn't hesitate to start with WST.

W244 also worked pretty good, although I never got to advertised velocity until I went over book charge, which I am not recommending. Odd thing with W244... in 9mm it burned very clean, but at the same time it stained the brass. Very unusual.

At the end of the day, I found more reasons to stay with Unique over the newer powders than I did leaving Unique for them. Newer powders, like ASP and BE-86, required more dinking with the final load... things like bullet seat depth and crimp... than a powder like Unique and RedDot. I still have 3# of WST, so I'll burn that up in 200grn .45ACP loads, but as I finish off the other 3 powders (ASP, BE-86, W244...) I won't be picking any more up. The caveat to that is... W244. It worked the best of all the powders (besides Unique) in both the 9mm and .45ACP, which was my goal throughout testing. So, if the day comes that Unique is retired, or I can't get any more, I'll have an easier decision on which powder to go forward with.
 
This might be a fellow who KNOWS : I've been loading some 185 JHP's with that load and they do apparently like to kiss or fly straight to try .

The "Marine Corps Load" in .45 ACP was with a Nosler 185 grain jacketed hollow point. One of the guys who originally developed that load gave me a charge of 4.5 grains of Alliant Bullseye. It shoots very accurately at 50 yards (2" ten shot groups or better) out of a good bullseye accurized 1911. The Zero 185 gr. JHP has a reputation as being as good as the Nosler bullet.
 
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