I want a Lee-Enfield.

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He has a few Enfields (no I don't know what models or what prices he's asking although I do know that one's a sweet looking carbine style with a really cool looking compensator or something of the sort on the end of it) that I'm sure are reasonably priced and that he can and would ship to your FFL should you choose to purchase from him. Give him a call for more info, tell him Ray told you about them and he might actually give you a discount.
 
Muzzleblast, doesn't look like aim surplus has ANY Enfields there (least not anymore), thought that TULA-TOZ 78 .22lr looks interesting...

Swingset, is that a modern manufacture reproduction stock put on that No. 4 or an original? Sure is nice....
 
Fotu...the stock on my No4 Fazakerly is original. That rifle is one of the post war No4mk2's that were contract rifles for both the Irish and British government. Mine is a 1955. They were put into stores and never issued, sealed in the wrappers until the mid-90's when they came into the US on the surplus market.

Back then, for about $250-$300 you could get a brand spankin new No4 gun. Nowadays they can be had for $350 and up if you look hard enough.
 
MuzzleBlast, Puhleeeeze . . .

Where did you get the folding stock for the SMLE in your pic??? I have a sporterized (16.5" bbl) No. 4, and that stock would be perfect for a "truck gun." If it was designed for a different rifle, which model, and could it be adapted to a No. 4?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Ray
 
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I, too, prefer two-aperture flipper to the slow micrometer sight...

I have not been able to get anything even remotely approaching P1914 accuracy from the no4 Enfield...but it is certainly a handy rifle.
 
Futo, yeah, it shouldn't be a problem. You'd probably have to sight the weapon in after the switch, but it should fit fine, since I changed to the micrometer style, then back.
 
The Enfields are one of the great battle rifles of a bygone era. What is the old quote, and I forget where it is from but it goes something like this: During WW 1 the Americans brought a great target rifle, the Germans a great hunting rifle, but the British brought a BATTLE rifle.

I had a pristine No. 5 with all matching numbers and brought into the country before import markings had to be stamped all over it. I am still kicking myself for letting that one go. I didn't find the recoil of the No. 5 to be that bad but that little narrow hard rubber pad on the butt did not help any.

Swingset: I like your Enfields. Those No4, MkII's were coming into the country in arsenal wrap a few years ago. that one looks great. Your No. 1, Mk III is an early one with a magazine cut off and windage adjustable rear sight which makes me guess around 1916??

Great rifles. Every one who enjoys military history should get one. Please leave it as issued as those are the ones getting harder to find.
 
The magazine design on the Enfield looks very similar to the Mosin Nagant.
Am I hallucinating?

(good grief, I don't even have the M-N yet, and I want a SMLE!:D )
 
Swingset: I like your Enfields. Those No4, MkII's were coming into the country in arsenal wrap a few years ago. that one looks great. Your No. 1, Mk III is an early one with a magazine cut off and windage adjustable rear sight which makes me guess around 1916??

Good guess. It's a 1917 BSA. In 1916 the Brits adopted the No1mkIII*, which eliminated the cut-off.

While I love the No1's for their history and somewhat faster action, I prefer the No4's for shooting. This is my favorite Enfield, obviously it's quite a shooter:

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1944 BSA No4mk1T.

This one is another of my faves:

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This one's a 1919 Lithgow No1 in its original Queensland Maple and 2nd MD marked, with a pristine bore. It has the most crisp, light trigger I've ever felt on an issue Enfield.
 
BTL Ltd is a good source, though a bit higher than some, he's very knowledgabe and has a good inventory.

I recommend a No 4 Mk II if you plan to shoot it a lot. The Mk I rifles have the trigger pinned to the trigger guard. It's impossible to get a consistent trigger press. Plenty fine for "minute of battle", but why not go with the better trigger.

If you go with the ladder back sight, be sure to get a machined one, not a stamped one. The stamped one has a very sharp lever on the right side which is perfectly placed to cut your hand when rapidly operating the bolt. The simple L flip is another option, but I dislike the asthetics, though it gets the job done. If you find a rifle you like, but it's not the sight you prefer, don't worry. There a plenty of original sights around from varous sources and they are easy to swap out.

A No 4 was my first center fire rifle. They are outstanding and I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
 
I had a Lee Enfield Mk 1 about 35 years ago. Right about the minute of battle accuracy. I think an Uzi would be as accurate and a Mini 14 beats the doo-wappa out of one. It is long gone and entirely unlamented.
 
I have not been able to get anything even remotely approaching P1914 accuracy from the no4 Enfield...but it is certainly a handy rifle.

Oleg,

If you get a good No.4 and use good ammo you can get very good accuracy. My No.4 Mk.I can keep them in the black of an SR-1 target offhand at 100 yards. And my unissued No.4 Mk.II is right about MOA with 150 grain handloads.
 
I had a Lee Enfield Mk 1 about 35 years ago. Right about the minute of battle accuracy. I think an Uzi would be as accurate and a Mini 14 beats the doo-wappa out of one. It is long gone and entirely unlamented.

An UZI or Mini 14? Ok, I'll give you that some of the No1's can be squirrelly, but if tuned correctly (The way the brit armorers recommended and few of us do), I'd bet my life's savings I could outshoot a stock Mini14 or Uzi at 100 yards, and beyond that, It's not even worth betting on, the .303 out of a SMLE at long distance is legendary. The Bisley shooters used the No1 action for 50 years to dominate that competition - for a reason.

Me thinks you got a lemon, don't condemn the design tho.
 
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Where's a good place to find one of these other than BDL?

I've been cruising the 'net, looking at many of the C&R dealers and can find a few, usually beat. BDL has a so-so selection right now.

I'm hoping to find a specialist in British/Commonwealth weapons. Someone with a website is preferred, if just so I can see lists and pictures.
 
Swingset, the only milsurps I've ever seen that equal the beauty of that enfield were the 2 matching rifles I saw at the Wannamacher show couple weeks back. They were 100th anniversary commemorative Swiss K31s in perfect condition, in .22lr, with gold accents, including the commemorative plates, with a little circular laminated tag showing their impressive test group. $1,550 each. I stood there slack-jawed for a good 10 minutes, wondering if I had seen a liquor store on the way in I could knock off for $1,500, before moving on. :)
 
You can buy one of those commemoratives from Swissdagger in Switzerland linked from the swiss rifle forum.
 
Swingset, the only milsurps I've ever seen that equal the beauty of that enfield were the 2 matching rifles I saw at the Wannamacher show couple weeks back. They were 100th anniversary commemorative Swiss K31s in perfect condition, in .22lr, with gold accents, including the commemorative plates, with a little circular laminated tag showing their impressive test group. $1,550 each.

I've seen those before. Gorgeous. I saw a mint, looking to be unfired Zfk55 (the Sniper variant of the K-31) at the last OGCA show. Absolutely mint.

For the low low price of $5500!:what:

I'm very lucky, I have found some great looking Enfields lately. I have some friends who are high-end collectors and sometimes the deals trickle down to me.
 
Anyone interested in a unissued(?) 1941 Lithgow #1mkIII*?

It is $375, and it isn't mine and this isn't a pitch. I figure that someone would like this gun. PM me, but I may give the info out to the guys who are w/o first, so they can get a good rifle, rather than to guys like Swingset (no offense intended), who already have a good collection.


Correction:

It is a John Jovino parts gun and worth about half of what is asked. I got, what I believe to be the real deal. Guy has another probable real one, with cracked stock, for $200.
 
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I kinda have a thing for Enfields also, they kinda grow on ya.....

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Cheers,

Mike
 
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