I will miss thehighroad

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Zoogster

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I have enjoyed posting on here over the years and talking with some great people. It has been quite helpful to experience and keep in contact with people in free parts of the United States while living in California.

However in modern times with internet use being so well tracked and living in California I no longer feel comfortable freely talking and sharing firearms.
California continues to get worse regularly and while leading the nation in militant police forces restricts the population's ownership of arms more and more. Tracking, registration, increased prohibited persons and things to make one prohibited, ammunition purchase restrictions, firearm type and features etc.


It is to a point now that people following California law are choosing to disarm themselves, and I strongly believe the law only really works if people buy into it and adhere to it. I can no longer advocate people do so in California, but I also don't want to encourage anyone to get into serious trouble.
However I think if anyone truly wants to remain armed long term they need to own firearms off the books and probably stored in various places including some not tied to them, and if they want effective modern arms as was the intention of the 2nd Amendment they are in conflict with the state of California.


I have also come to realize that the freedoms we have as a people depend on having a good people, and talking about firearms separately from all other things doesn't accurately portray what is needed to keep the RKBA strong.
We try to keep it separate from all other things to make it as all inclusive as possible here, but the extent I feel is detrimental to the big picture sometimes.
If the people do not trust themselves they allow government which is naturally motivated to disarm and consolidate power to disarm them. In California we celebrate 'diversity' so strongly that everything foreign is celebrated more than any of the long term things that have formed and made America what is had been. (Something which was certainly not perfect but was pretty amazing and why people flocked here long before it was primarily economic incentive.) The corporations with the biggest influence and pockets encourage it because they want to hire skilled workers for as little as possible which means hiring mainly foreign cultures today.
You are left with a ragtag population that does not agree on creed or culture or values and doesn't see eye to eye and distrusts itself, and the police state happily moves in to the security vacuum. The legal system expands many times over dividing and conquering while never actually reaching the level of security and peace of mind the people once provided for themselves expending far fewer resources.

Arms are your ultimate power and when things really go wrong it is who is well armed and organized that determine the outcome.
Gradual adoption and following of unconstitutional weapon laws embolden those that don't really have complete power to rule as if they do because only those following their orders will be well armed. Ultimately what is law is really only what is backed up by the people with the guns, and the legal system can write down whatever it wants but depends on men with guns to actually put it into action. The 2nd Amendment was to insure those men are the full body of the population, a population that trusts itself and elects some to positions of law enforcement to be on the front lines. Not a thin blue line of bureaucracy that follows orders.

I hope the rest of the nation continues to work hard to retain their rights and I hope to one day join you in a free state. Until then I am so far behind enemy lines it is dangerous to be part of open firearm discussion anymore.
 
I get it, but sorry to see you go. :(
Give me a shout out, if you ever get East far enough to be in the free West.
 
I find this whole thing quite odd. Simply by posting what you did it is forever in a record somewhere. A true police state already has the information and all your posts. By you now choosing to leave THR really changes nothing. And openly admitting (in your last post on THR) to believing in owning and storing illegal firearms (those not tied to you) probably doesn't help your situation much. Especially if you feel so strongly about a police state that you feel you can no longer exercise your 1st Ammendment Right about your 2nd Ammendment Right.
 
The state won. They may win again in the future when the black helicopters lower the blue helmeted UN gungrabbers onto your house because the the computer forensics expert found your defiant THR posts...

As Johnny Utah said best
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It looks like CA now has it's own version of the 1934 NFA, except that it includes AR-15's.

Personally, I don't think I would want to run afoul of a state law like that, just like I wouldn't want to run afoul of NFA.

My feeling is if you register any firearm with the state or the fed that firearm technically belongs to them. They're just letting you use it for an indefinite period of time and they get to decide how long that is. It's quite possible that they could decide that AR-15's are illegal to own and your only recourse would be to turn it in or hide it away.

I'm surprised it's taken CA, or any other state, so long to figure this out. It's been working for the fed for 83 years.
 
It looks like CA now has it's own version of the 1934 NFA, except that it includes AR-15's.
My feeling is if you register any firearm with the state or the fed that firearm technically belongs to them. They're just letting you use it for an indefinite period of time and they get to decide how long that is. .
Well thank god for secret caches then. With that logic and the constitution...I'm allowed to own guns under the 2nd amendment, and Coaltrain logic, im not filling out any paperwork on the gun thus i own it and not the state.
 
I saw a sign in a bar in Cameron Montana that read "Don't Californicate Montana". It seems the libs have screwed up California so bad that they themselves can't live there so they move to another state just to screw it up.
 
I find this whole thing quite odd. Simply by posting what you did it is forever in a record somewhere. A true police state already has the information and all your posts. By you now choosing to leave THR really changes nothing. And openly admitting (in your last post on THR) to believing in owning and storing illegal firearms (those not tied to you) probably doesn't help your situation much. Especially if you feel so strongly about a police state that you feel you can no longer exercise your 1st Ammendment Right about your 2nd Ammendment Right.

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If the whole police state thing bothers you so much, why come on here and post your intentions for the world to see?
 
I would submit that IF the .gov monitors firearms and hunting sites, etc., and IF .gov is keeping lists of those who post, they already have a very large data base of all those gun owners they want to "collect" IF they are someday ordered to do so by some communistnazi government, whether in D.C., or a State government.

Might as well go ahead and enjoy the site.

Just my opinion.

L.W.
 
We have both been posting here since 2006, so if there is a secret illegal list, guess what, we're on it. I don't care, because we cannot win by shutting up or hiding. We can only win by standing up proudly for the gun rights we believe in and fighting for it at the ballot box and by supporting pro gun politicians around the country..
 
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