WeekendReloader
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You could make art with the powder...
Identifying a powder?
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That is some slow-burning powder!
GeoDudeFlorida
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Could be HP38/W231 Check the database.
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National Center for Forensic Sciences smokeless powder database. You can search by color in the "Physical Characteristics" tab.
Found it by searching for "powder database".
WeekendReloader
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I use a lot of Win231. It does not look like Win231 to me. It looks like an Alliant disc powder like Unique or BE86 or one of the others shaped like disks (not the 'Dot's though as they have colored dots in them).
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Closest that I can think of is HS 6. But the 10 foot pole comment comes to mind.
doubleh
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Where would this be? I haven't seen any Titegroup anywhere around here for months and months. What little powder I see available and it is nothing I use is going for 50 bucks a pound.
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There was once a book titled Propellant Profiles. Maybe someone can give you information of all the handgun flake powders listed.
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The other day someone posted on another forum that Powder Valley had some TItegroup.Where would this be? I haven't seen any Titegroup anywhere around here for months and months. What little powder I see available and it is nothing I use is going for 50 bucks a pound.
The price they are showing is $24.55. Obviously it would have been gone in minutes.
https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/product/hodgdon-titegroup/
Mcfly brought it to him...Where would this be? I haven't seen any Titegroup anywhere around here for months and months. What little powder I see available and it is nothing I use is going for 50 bucks a pound.
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It might be Power Pistol.
Max according to Alliant is 6,7 gr with a 115 JHP
I find split cases of 9mm all the time in range pick up and they are mostly new, once fired.
Here is a new one,
Never fired and split stem to stern. No idea why except a hard spot that didn't survive the DOM process.
Now, it you say they are to hot, then tear them down. Especially if you don't know who loaded them and what his recipe was.
But one split case doesn't mean much.
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Max according to Alliant is 6,7 gr with a 115 JHP
I find split cases of 9mm all the time in range pick up and they are mostly new, once fired.
Here is a new one,
Never fired and split stem to stern. No idea why except a hard spot that didn't survive the DOM process.
Now, it you say they are to hot, then tear them down. Especially if you don't know who loaded them and what his recipe was.
But one split case doesn't mean much.
TT
doubleh
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Tack on hazmat and shipping and how much would the actual cost be?
Thats is pretty neat. My Wife is artistic, I will ask her to make a nice outline and I can put the powder on. She and her sister are always into different art stuff.
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Of the 13 powders I have my face in all of the time, WIN 231 looks most similar to that.
End of story. Pull em or scrap em. At least you received some information on the ammo.
I got some reloads at an estate sale of 357 Magnums with 125gr bullets that were a full grain over max, and JHP bullets were seated about a full 1/8" too deep. The crimp was about 1/4 the way up the ogive 1/8" past cannelure. I read the masking tape on the boxes reading **Blue Dot** scribbled in pencil..... I've yet to pull em, they're just sitting in the box.
Problem 1- Blue Dot in 125grain bullets has been verboten by Alliant. If the MFG says dont do it, then I'll listen.
Problem 2- over max powder charge even by old published standards.
Problem 3- Seating depth way too deep so up will go the pressure
ONE LAST THING- Blue Dot is a finicky powder as it is.
End of story. Pull em or scrap em. At least you received some information on the ammo.
I got some reloads at an estate sale of 357 Magnums with 125gr bullets that were a full grain over max, and JHP bullets were seated about a full 1/8" too deep. The crimp was about 1/4 the way up the ogive 1/8" past cannelure. I read the masking tape on the boxes reading **Blue Dot** scribbled in pencil..... I've yet to pull em, they're just sitting in the box.
Problem 1- Blue Dot in 125grain bullets has been verboten by Alliant. If the MFG says dont do it, then I'll listen.
Problem 2- over max powder charge even by old published standards.
Problem 3- Seating depth way too deep so up will go the pressure
ONE LAST THING- Blue Dot is a finicky powder as it is.
Been reloading shotgun shells for over 50 years using Unique and Herco which are both flake powders and are both used in handgun reloads, especially .38 and .357, in the weight you mentioned (the 9mm does not have the case capacity they do). There are probably many other flake powders out there. The safest thing you can do since you have no idea of components used is break them down and start over with a known powder in a weight listed in a trusted reloading manual such as Lyman. Once you have reloaded them be sure to identify components used with their weights. All my boxes of reloads are marked that way. You have done a good job of starting out cautiously. Continue doing so and you and your reloads will be just fine.
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I think it is somewhat risky to try to ID powder by sight.
If you are really desperate for powder I would back off to say about 4gr and work up from there.
However given the current price of primers I wouldn't waste the primers messing with an unknown powder.
If it was 5lbs of powder it might be worth it but for less than an lb just not worth the trouble IMO.
If you are really desperate for powder I would back off to say about 4gr and work up from there.
However given the current price of primers I wouldn't waste the primers messing with an unknown powder.
If it was 5lbs of powder it might be worth it but for less than an lb just not worth the trouble IMO.
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Archie
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I agree that looks like Unique. I also agree that isn't a reliable way to decide.
As purely an intellectual problem, check a loading manual to see if that load matches up with any 'maximum' load or shows being over maximum. That is a way to get a general idea, but isn't a way to get a definitive answer. It is also a flake powder, which should narrow down the choices. Still a bit edgy.
Safest method is to throw it out - the garden is a good idea - and start over.
As purely an intellectual problem, check a loading manual to see if that load matches up with any 'maximum' load or shows being over maximum. That is a way to get a general idea, but isn't a way to get a definitive answer. It is also a flake powder, which should narrow down the choices. Still a bit edgy.
Safest method is to throw it out - the garden is a good idea - and start over.
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