If you have not joined Oath Keepers, here's your chance.

[FireInCairo]

Anyone can sign up, you don't have to be military or law enforcement.

Oath Keepers take their oath to uphold the Constitution very seriously. They have a number of promises, some of which directly support the right to keep and bear arms. Here they are:

1. We will NOT obey any order to disarm the American people.

2. We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people, their homes, vehicles, papers, or effects – such as warrantless house-to house searches for weapons or persons

5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty and declares the national government to be in violation of the compact by which that state entered the Union.

The founder of Oath Keepers Stuart Rhodes spoke last June on the urgency of people who believe in the Constitution to come together in town/city/state/national levels in order to prepare for potential collapse of society and a lapse in civil authority during a grid-down situation. See the video on him speaking below.

It's the most coordinated effort, to band people together across this nation that I've seen.

Join the mailing list, join the forum to gain free access to your state team with the option to pay dues to access the nationwide forums.

They're organizing local training and coordination regularly, too.

Forums:

http://www.oathkeepers.net/forum/index.php


Watch the video from their June national meeting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc8n4cu-9Zc

 

[alsaqr]

i have no intention of joining Oath Keepers.

 

[FireInCairo]

i have no intention of joining Oath Keepers.

That's your business!

 

[wojownik]

Nope. No thanks.

 

[Wisco]

Never.

 

[FireInCairo]

Next!

 

[Sol]

Wanna hear a joke?

An FBI agent an ATF agent a local cop and a state trooper walk into a militia meeting and...

 

[FireInCairo]

I wanna thank everyone who has clicked on the link and signed up.

 

[FireInCairo]

Wanna hear a joke?

An FBI agent an ATF agent a local cop and a state trooper walk into a militia meeting and...

What exactly are you implying?

 

[FireInCairo]

There is no way the majority of law enforcement or former military support the wholesale destruction of Constitutional rights in our country, if that's what you're implying. These people have been here for generations, and they have grand-kids.

You've heard the phrase, "Don't crap where you eat," right?

 

[DeepSouth]

12 gauge

 

[mljdeckard]

When I first heard about them, I was very supportive, but their facebook page became less and less about protecting rights and more and more about the coming apocalypse, so I dropped them.

I can protect peoples' rights just as well on my own.

 

[FireInCairo]

When I first heard about them, I was very supportive, but their facebook page became less and less about protecting rights and more and more about the coming apocalypse, so I dropped them.

I can protect peoples' rights just as well on my own.

First responders have their hand on the pulse of our nation. If the the pulse has grown weak, they would know first.

 

[another pake]

Join the mailing list, join the forum to gain free access to your state team with the option to pay dues ...

... and I think you're beginning to zero in on it.

 

[FireInCairo]

Dues are optional, is that offensive?

 

[FireInCairo]

You forgot your PASS IT ON tag line.

You know, if it were anyone else posting this, I might have even clicked the link. Considering the source, let's just say I've been soured.

Suit yourself!

 

[hso]

Remember in Activism we work to promote plans or we clearly identify the flaws and fixes so the plan can be improved. If you're going to post a declining thread please be explicit about the reason and in terms that benefit the 2A.

 

[FireInCairo]

Remember in Activism we work to promote plans or we clearly identify the flaws and fixes so the plan can be improved. If you're going to post a declining thread please be explicit about the reason and in terms that benefit the 2A.

What do you mean a "declining" thread?

 

[hso]

What do you mean a "declining" thread?

Any poster declining to support the effort.

 

[alsaqr]

Yep, the so called "Oath Keepers" went to the aid of that thieving Cliven Bundy guy. That did it for me.

 

[Ryanxia]

Any poster declining to support the effort.

I think he means if someone is going to make a post about not liking the Oath Keepers they should say clearly what their issue is so it could potentially be addressed instead of just saying, 'no freaking way'.

 

[alsaqr]

I think he means if someone is going to make a post about not liking the Oath Keepers they should say clearly what their issue is so it could potentially be addressed instead of just saying, 'no freaking way'

Yep, and those starting a thread should enumerate the good stuff that the organization they are shilling for has accomplished: Links to organizational propaganda don't count.

Yep, the "Oath Keepers" falsely accused the federal government of planning a drone strike on the Bundy.

 

[Ryanxia]

Yep, the "Oath Keepers" falsely accused the federal government of planning a drone strike on the Bundy.

Because our government would NEVER do something like that.

I don't know much about them, but that's hardly a reason I would condemn an organization. Besides, if they are wackos, at least they're wackos on our side

 

[wojownik]

Remember in Activism we work to promote plans or we clearly identify the flaws and fixes so the plan can be improved. If you're going to post a declining thread please be explicit about the reason and in terms that benefit the 2A.

Very fair request and reminder.

IMHO, the group in question is seen by many as a fringe group, and as such IMHO may do more harm than good in the advocacy of RKBA. Their increasing SHTF content is, again, too fringe. Many members hold a conspiracy-theory type of undertone that, once again, does not play well for mainstream efforts to advance RKBA.

The group overall seems to be going to too many directions, or trying to be many things to many people - they seem to have become a bucket of various and sundry agendas - and RKBA is just one among many.

Finally, as a a group of "current and formerly serving military, police, and first responders" - this bothers me as a group of uniformed folks who feel they have a superior interpretation of the Constitution than other mere "civilian" folks - and certainly above elected officials. Some of this narrative from this group just shadows the kind of praetorian politics one more typically sees in third world countries.

 

[another pake]

Like many others here on this site, I am one who has taken that solemn oath in defense of the Constitution. In my case the time was 1968. Since then I have endeavered to live my life in such a way which reflects that oath and although I believe that the phrase has become a little too "cute" for my tastes, "I have never been released" from the oath either.

Whenever I hear someone say, "this is the perfect way", or "the best way", or "the only way" to do anything I get very suspicious. And as good as the name sounds, and as good as a very casual understanding of the group's intentions look, upon closer scrutiny I am left scratching my head.

Alsaqr cited the example of Oathkeepers support for Clive Bundy and I would ask you to elaborate, What Constitutional issue were they protecting there? The right to squat on Federal property (yours and mine and ours) without paying rent?

Or what about patrolling rooftops in Ferguson, MO? Which of our Constitutional rights were in jeopardy there? One might try to argue that they were helping to safeguard the community from looters, but that was not a threat to our Constitution. In all honesty to my eye, it looks like the group favors vigilanteism because they don't trust the government. While there were plenty of disturbing actions going on in Ferguson, I didn't see any which caused me to fear for my Constitutional rights.

Yes I took the oath in '68. I take it very seriously yet today. So much so in fact that I have become vigilant myself about letting others lead me around via mistrust, imaginings and mental wanderings.