Roadrunner NV
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Hello duckjihad,
I don't like to resell guns because I lost money each time.
I don't like to resell guns because I lost money each time.
If you have to choose 7 guns...
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Just handguns? I think I already have my bases coveres. I have...
.357 Magnum -- versatility
.22 LR -- Fun and small game
.38 Special -- Fun, small game, pocket defense
9mm -- ccw
.380 -- ccw when I can't ccw anything more powerful due to size
.45 ACP -- because, just because -- defense and momentum games like pins
.45 Colt -- POWER against nature!
...and just plain fun and outdoor carry
I really don't need anything else, tell ya the truth. I have a .30-30 handgun for hunting, but I guess that doesn't count? I like it, though, kills 'em way out there.
.357 Magnum -- versatility
.22 LR -- Fun and small game
.38 Special -- Fun, small game, pocket defense
9mm -- ccw
.380 -- ccw when I can't ccw anything more powerful due to size
.45 ACP -- because, just because -- defense and momentum games like pins
.45 Colt -- POWER against nature!
...and just plain fun and outdoor carryI really don't need anything else, tell ya the truth. I have a .30-30 handgun for hunting, but I guess that doesn't count? I like it, though, kills 'em way out there.
kBob
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Hey, Jamie C.
Hey Jamie C. (senior Member),
First let me say I am sorry I have not learned about how to control which message I respond to ect. That is why I "yeled "Hey" for Jamie.
It seems from two of your post that you assume there is not such thing as a 1911 type pistol in .38 Special. If I am mistaken about the intention of your two post, please forgive me.
They were once made up by a number of custom shops for 3 gun NRA bullseye shooting. The Army Marksmanship Unit appearently came up with the idea and because like some here they were concerned about difficulty feeding in the 1911 action they used a .38 Special with a reduced rim and called it the .38 AMU if memory is correct. Later it was found that by limiting magazine capacity to only what was needed for the course of fire that unaltered .38 Special cases could be used.
The amunition was restricted to 141 to 148 grain wad cutters loaded flush with the case and given a roll crimp. Loads were typically fairly light charges of Bullseye powder.
I may be wrong but I seem to recall that these guns had no barrel link or locking lugs in on the barrel and functioned as a fixed barrel Blow back operated pistol and that some models featured ringed groves in the chamber to slow the rearward motion of the case on firing.
There were enough of these guns made up that S&W brought out their Model 52 .38 Special (wad cutter only) as a production gun. Both the Colts and S&Ws still show up at target matches.
Some time things shake loose from the ossified brains of us "upper middle aged" folks and we feel the urge to share them with others.
In the seventies I used to imagine how nice it would be to have three otherwise identical "Gold Cup 1911A-1s, one in the original service cartridge, one in the .38 Special Wad Cutter format and one fitted by Bob Day with his Day 30X .22LR conversion. As no gold meteorites soft landed in the back yard back then ( and have still not) I had to make do with a .45ACP and a Colt Ace type conversion unit.
As to those Seven Guns for the thread starter.
A good DA belt gun in .357 Magnum with four or six inch barrel,
a good service pistol,
the best .22LR auto pistol offered,
a CCW gun you would be comfortable carrying and that you could find multiple means of carrying.
a good SA revolver in a heavy caliber
a good single shot rifle caliber hunting pistol
A gun that would fit your significant others hand and not be two powerful for them.
With out the list I could not recommend anything specifically.
Hey Jamie C. (senior Member),
First let me say I am sorry I have not learned about how to control which message I respond to ect. That is why I "yeled "Hey" for Jamie.
It seems from two of your post that you assume there is not such thing as a 1911 type pistol in .38 Special. If I am mistaken about the intention of your two post, please forgive me.
They were once made up by a number of custom shops for 3 gun NRA bullseye shooting. The Army Marksmanship Unit appearently came up with the idea and because like some here they were concerned about difficulty feeding in the 1911 action they used a .38 Special with a reduced rim and called it the .38 AMU if memory is correct. Later it was found that by limiting magazine capacity to only what was needed for the course of fire that unaltered .38 Special cases could be used.
The amunition was restricted to 141 to 148 grain wad cutters loaded flush with the case and given a roll crimp. Loads were typically fairly light charges of Bullseye powder.
I may be wrong but I seem to recall that these guns had no barrel link or locking lugs in on the barrel and functioned as a fixed barrel Blow back operated pistol and that some models featured ringed groves in the chamber to slow the rearward motion of the case on firing.
There were enough of these guns made up that S&W brought out their Model 52 .38 Special (wad cutter only) as a production gun. Both the Colts and S&Ws still show up at target matches.
Some time things shake loose from the ossified brains of us "upper middle aged" folks and we feel the urge to share them with others.
In the seventies I used to imagine how nice it would be to have three otherwise identical "Gold Cup 1911A-1s, one in the original service cartridge, one in the .38 Special Wad Cutter format and one fitted by Bob Day with his Day 30X .22LR conversion. As no gold meteorites soft landed in the back yard back then ( and have still not) I had to make do with a .45ACP and a Colt Ace type conversion unit.
As to those Seven Guns for the thread starter.
A good DA belt gun in .357 Magnum with four or six inch barrel,
a good service pistol,
the best .22LR auto pistol offered,
a CCW gun you would be comfortable carrying and that you could find multiple means of carrying.
a good SA revolver in a heavy caliber
a good single shot rifle caliber hunting pistol
A gun that would fit your significant others hand and not be two powerful for them.
With out the list I could not recommend anything specifically.
Vern Humphrey
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My choices wouldn't fit your problem -- since you are probably forced to choose new guns. But here's my take -- there are only 4 (or 4 1/2) useful handgun cartridges:
1. .22 LR. My choice would be a Colt Woodsman (mine was made in 1938). For a revolver, I would pick the Colt Officer's Model Target (mine was also made in 1938.)
2. .357. My choice would be a Colt Python or Colt M357 (I carried the latter my first tour in Viet Nam.) Runner up would be a Colt SAA in .357 (Mine is Second model.)
3. For concealed carry, a Colt Detective Special in .38 Special (that's the 1/2 cartridge in the 4 1/2, above.) For a .357 concealed carry, the Ruger SP 101.
4. For general concealed carry, an M1911A1 in .45 ACP (I have an Argentine M1927 -- basically a Colt -- a kit-built gun from Federal Ordnance, and a Kimber Classic.)
5. For general hunting and woods bumming (where a .22 isn't adequate) a Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt.
1. .22 LR. My choice would be a Colt Woodsman (mine was made in 1938). For a revolver, I would pick the Colt Officer's Model Target (mine was also made in 1938.)
2. .357. My choice would be a Colt Python or Colt M357 (I carried the latter my first tour in Viet Nam.) Runner up would be a Colt SAA in .357 (Mine is Second model.)
3. For concealed carry, a Colt Detective Special in .38 Special (that's the 1/2 cartridge in the 4 1/2, above.) For a .357 concealed carry, the Ruger SP 101.
4. For general concealed carry, an M1911A1 in .45 ACP (I have an Argentine M1927 -- basically a Colt -- a kit-built gun from Federal Ordnance, and a Kimber Classic.)
5. For general hunting and woods bumming (where a .22 isn't adequate) a Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt.
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your missing a 10mm you should get one.
Jamie C.
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No KBob, I'm aware of the .38 spl "wadcutter only" 1911-type guns... However, those sort of fall into the category of "specialty guns", and aren't, in the strictest sense of the term, true 1911s.
The closest thing I'm aware of to a 1911 that'll fire "ordinary" .38 spl is the Coonan I linked to.
And given that the .38 spl case is more than a quarter of an inch longer than a .45 acp case... well, the odds of finding a standard-issue 1911 that'll swallow a typical 125-158 gr. JHP without any "surgery" is pretty slim.
Still, as I told Roadrunner, if he finds one.... I wanna see it.
J.C.
Roadrunner NV
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Thanks Mattw for your advises.
jibjab no they did not ask me to buy magazines.
jibjab no they did not ask me to buy magazines.
The Real Hawkeye
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One full sized all steel 1911. One lightweight Commander 1911. One N-frame big bore S&W revolver. One K-frame S&W revolver in .357 Magnum. One J-frame S&W revolver in .38 Special. One K-frame S&W revolver in .22 lr. One .22 lr conversion kit for a 1911 (which doesn't count as a handgun by itself), and one Browning High Power in 9mm.
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