If you wanted to build a really accurate centerfire semi-auto, what would you build?
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wanderinwalker
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M1As are pretty common around here, especially with anybody in Highpower over the age of about 40 or so. The AR-15s are what the top shooters use. And, quite frankly, as fun as it is to imagine needing a rifle to "reach out and touch something," most people will only ever use it for paper targets, rocks, steel or other inanimate fun things, so the .223 would be adequate. If you live in a really windy, wide open place, a 6.5mm on an AR-10/SR-25 platform would probably be a better alternative.
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DMK
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Hmm, you guys are making me want an AR10 really bad. 
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Thanks GeWehr98. I've delved so deeply into blackpowder that I've lost track of the newest developments. I did not realize that the BAR has been militarized. 
Just for the fun of it, in case you've ever wondered how the sporting BAR rifle works, click here and scrow down just a mite bit BAR operation
BTW, if I were to build an action, I'd choose the AR-10 type action. Fewer parts & no gas piston bouncing back & forth. Gas impingment rules!
Just for the fun of it, in case you've ever wondered how the sporting BAR rifle works, click here and scrow down just a mite bit BAR operation
BTW, if I were to build an action, I'd choose the AR-10 type action. Fewer parts & no gas piston bouncing back & forth. Gas impingment rules!
Zak Smith
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DMK,
My JP AR10 with lots of upgrades is for sale in the forum here...
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My JP AR10 with lots of upgrades is for sale in the forum here...
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Gary, it really isn't the "newest" development...
It's been around long enough to see service in Bosnia.
I like the BAR because the gas system is amazingly similar to the M14's, mimicking the White method of self-regulation.
I have several AR-15 variants, but still can't get excited about an action that dumps it's exhaust back into the receiver. Of my 100+ guns, they're the ones that spend the most time hiding out in the safe. I spend a metric buttload of time cleaning my M16A2 after qualifications and when I had government-invited quality time in a certain tent city a short while ago. That sand over there is like nothing I had ever seen before.
Maybe an AR-10 variant with the new HK/Leitner-Wise/DSA gas-piston system? Do they make the conversion for the .308/7.62mm NATO versions?
It's been around long enough to see service in Bosnia.
I like the BAR because the gas system is amazingly similar to the M14's, mimicking the White method of self-regulation.
I have several AR-15 variants, but still can't get excited about an action that dumps it's exhaust back into the receiver. Of my 100+ guns, they're the ones that spend the most time hiding out in the safe. I spend a metric buttload of time cleaning my M16A2 after qualifications and when I had government-invited quality time in a certain tent city a short while ago. That sand over there is like nothing I had ever seen before.
Maybe an AR-10 variant with the new HK/Leitner-Wise/DSA gas-piston system? Do they make the conversion for the .308/7.62mm NATO versions?
artherd
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Good AR-15s and AR-10s are doing 1/2MOA out of the box.
JP makes a sweet AR-15 that's 1/4MOA capable.
DPMS AR-10 shooters are reporting 1/2 to 1/4MOA groups too. Much as I like the KAC SR-25, it aparently is not quite as accurate as the much cheaper DPMS!
My choice would be a DPMS AR-10 in 6.5-08 or a JP CTR-02 in .223 shooting 77gr OTM.
JP makes a sweet AR-15 that's 1/4MOA capable.
DPMS AR-10 shooters are reporting 1/2 to 1/4MOA groups too. Much as I like the KAC SR-25, it aparently is not quite as accurate as the much cheaper DPMS!
My choice would be a DPMS AR-10 in 6.5-08 or a JP CTR-02 in .223 shooting 77gr OTM.
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To the shooter who suggested M82A1. Nope.
I've got one, and it's a great fun gun, but it's 1.5-3MOA at best so far.
To make it a semi, the barrel recoils. That means it's not welded to the upper. This makes it inaccurate sadly.
I would like to see the barrel o-ring'd ala H&K's Mk23 (on biiig steroids to help bring it down to maybe 1MOA.
I've got one, and it's a great fun gun, but it's 1.5-3MOA at best so far.
To make it a semi, the barrel recoils. That means it's not welded to the upper. This makes it inaccurate sadly.
I would like to see the barrel o-ring'd ala H&K's Mk23 (on biiig steroids
to help bring it down to maybe 1MOA.- Status
