Carl N. Brown
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Around here, coyotes are an invasive non-native species that infringes on native species and livestock. Much like Russian boars or kudzu. A blindly destructive force.
That is wrong, because they have ranged throughout North and Central America for almost 2 million years, long before we were here............Around here, coyotes are an invasive non-native species that infringes on native species and livestock. Much like Russian boars or kudzu. A blindly destructive force.
I love every aspect of nature (except mosquitos) and watching wildlife is something that I enjoy more out of a hunt than making a shot.
I have to ask. Are these "game animals" behind a fence? The hogs also?I hunt a ranch in Texas that requires you to shoot -a coyote,then a hog, and if it's still there, a game animal last! Which I have no problem with.
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Originally Posted by Hellifino View Post
I hunt a ranch in Texas that requires you to shoot -a coyote,then a hog, and if it's still there, a game animal last! Which I have no problem with.
I have to ask. Are these "game animals" behind a fence? The hogs also?
Just asking.
Yotes can be hunted year round in western WA with either a small game or big game license. They are devastating on the local deer fawns(coastal blacktail), but are tough to get a shot on, in our dense forest's. Most of the yotes I see around here, are in town, illegal to discharge a firearm within city limits (damn!, those crafty yotes). I've got some 110gr handloads for my .300 Savage that I can reach out to three hundred yards with. But have yet to claim a dog with, summers coming though!
Hey Tahoe, good to hear from another Seattle guy! Grew up near Carkeek Park; could hear coyotes in the evenings. But have never seen one. They seemed to have NO desire to interact with humans.
I never thought of them as a nusiance or threat; just a wild animal that was eking out an existance in a small corner of semi-wild habitat.
Anyway, I thought I'd throw a different viewpoint out here: a lot of you guys want to keep the predators beaten back so you have more deer, right? Well, what the heck makes you think deer are so good? They may be an attractive animal (I think they are), but they're certainly a nuisance around here. Get out on the roads and wreck cars - and motorcycles. And as a motorcyclist, those deer are a real threat to my safety while riding. They kill and injure a number of bikers.
And that, my friends, makes this animal a pest. Prettier than a mosquito; less likely to bite me. But, actually more likely to cause me real harm.
So, there's my .02...
-Bill
Not to mention deer can devastate peoples' gardens.
Hey... a couple of us are just turning the tables regarding what animals can be of the nuisance variety. There's always more than one side to an argument. Who's to say that we don't need coyotes to keep nuisance deer populations in check?
All that makes complete sense... can't argue with a single word.We definitely need some coyotes, they, being natural predators are a vital part to any ecosystem. I shoot some though, because where I hunt there are too many. Wild pigs, however, are not needed. At all.
To me, a nuisance animal is a nuisance animal, and it is such on an individual basis. It isn't the species that makes it a nuisance, it is what the individual animal does. (but I will be the first to admit that some species have more individual nuisances than others)
Hey... a couple of us are just turning the tables regarding what animals can be of the nuisance variety. There's always more than one side to an argument. Who's to say that we don't need coyotes to keep nuisance deer populations in check?
The above stated, I loathe the idea that carnivores are a cruel part of nature. I like deer much more than coyotes. What I'm alluding to is what a few others have I stated or hinted at... which is... what makes us the authority to decide which animals are killed on sight and which ones are not?
Straight up...................."I loathe the idea that carnivores are a cruel part of nature."
Nature isn't cruel, or kind. Nature just is.
Has anyone nominated humans as the nuisance animal of the millenium? I'd rather share the planet with coyotes and wood ticks than some of the folks at the mall.
To stay on topic, I'd not shoot a coyote under most circumstances, unless clearly rabid, injured, or diseased. My dad made it through the Depression trapping coyotes. Paid for winter supply of hay for 60 cows. When times got better, he never killed another one.