Ill Lt. Gov urges to pass gun bans now..

[dab102999]

CHICAGO — Lt. Gov. Sheila Simon is urging Illinois communities to consider banning assault-style weapons before new legislation is signed that could prohibit local governments from doing so in the future.

"We have seen the tragic results assault weapons have had on our streets, in our schools, movie theaters and more," Simon, a Democrat from Carbondale, said in a statement Sunday. "The clock is ticking, so I encourage mayors and local officials to act now to ban assault weapons and retain local control over this important issue."

State Rep. Brandon Phelps, a Democrat from Harrisburg in downstate Illinois, said Saturday the proposal represents a hard-fought agreement between lawmakers statewide. He encouraged Quinn to sign it soon and do away with the uncertainty over what will be law come July 9 — the deadline set by the federal court.
Phelps also questioned the necessity of Simon's statement. He said most Illinois communities recognize that law-abiding gun owners have a right to possess assault-style weapons, which are used for competitions and hunting.
"If a community doesn't have (a ban) already, I don't know why they would do it now," Phelps said.
Simon told The Associated Press on Saturday she wanted to be sure home rule communities — some of which are small and may not have full-time elected officials or legal staff — are aware of the deadline.
"It's sort of 'do it now or you can't go back,'" she said. "It's a choice I want them to have."


Link to article:

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/7fac10596ef548c1a5f9fb3ecd2fd758/IL--Concealed-Carry-Simon

 

[Trent]

Ooooh I went ROUND AND ROUND with the mayor of Carbondale over e-mail a few months ago, when he joined Bloomburgs "mayors against freedom" group.

That mayor of Carbondale is insanely anti-gun.

What is it with that town???

 

[GarySTL]

It's the college!

 

[Ryanxia]

Spread the word throughout your communities to put pressure on the representatives not to do anything and that your freedoms are important to you. Put pressure on them until July 9th. Maybe someone could put up flyers at local gunshops, Cabelas, etc.

 

[StrutStopper]

If there's a preemption statute in the new law wouldn't any locally imposed bans be invalid?

 

[Kingcreek]

If there's a preemption statute in the new law wouldn't any locally imposed bans be invalid?

The preemption clause only applies to handguns for concealed carry, not long arms unfortunately.

 

[Trent]

AR15 pistols should be in high demand.

Those can't be regulated by the new law.

And.. the ATF lost a court case against TC... you can covert an ar15 pistol to a rifle and back again so long as when it's switched to a rifle, the barrel is 16" and the OAL is > 26 ", and so long as when it has a shorter barrel it never has a stock.

(But you can NOT switch a rifle to a pistol)

(EDIT: Does the 26" mark apply with the stock fully extended or fully collapsed/folded? I'm not sure on that one.)

 

[Trent]

Also, the word 'CONCEALED' was struck from the final version of the bill before it passed (amendment 6 on the bill). So ALL handguns are pre-empted. Period.

 

[Trent]

Oh, on a (somewhat) related note, Illinois State police are getting pretty hostile about things.

When I went to the USPSA shoot on June 9 (on a Sunday morning in the middle of nowhere), state troopers were pulling over people on IL136 going in to havana. BOTH of the vehicles I saw stopped had NRA or hunting stickers on their vehicles.

Why they'd have a force of troopers out on a sunday morning 5 miles from a shooting match .. well, it just happened to be the day the injunction was SUPPOSED to kick in.

They were fishing for someone who didn't get the news and was driving to the match cocked & locked.

 

[Nanook]

I'd expect nothing less from an organization as heavily politicized as the ISP. They are as corrupt as the rest of the state. By that I mean the leadership, the rank and file are probably just trying to do their jobs.

God, this state is such an embarrassment.

 

[Old Fuff]

BOTH of the vehicles I saw stopped had NRA or hunting stickers on their vehicles

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Maybe until things settle down it might be a good idea not to advertise. And those stickers can also invite a busted window made by a grab-and-run.

On the other hand if one happens to be a lawyer, or you can afford to retain a good one...

 

[Trent]

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Maybe until things settle down it might be a good idea not to advertise. And those stickers can also invite a busted window made by a grab-and-run.

Yes I completely agree with this.

They're talking about linking FOID and DL info in to CCW.

I think their goal is when they run a license plate, to know if the owner of a vehicle is a CCW holder. They can already pull your FOID info electronically on their laptops. (Mine was expired once when I was pulled over and I had to call a friend come to transport my firearms back home...)

 

[Old Fuff]

And people wonder why I go out of my way to avoid traveling in Illinois...

Chicago/Cook County area that is.

 

[1hobie]

This state is so screwed up that I think we ought to flush the darn lot of them and start over...like that could happen. Just think..Blago got re-elected for crying out loud. Our previous Republican Governors were just as corrupt. I'd leave this state in a heartbeat if it was possible.

Help us all.....

 

[r1derbike]

Lots of states now I wouldn't visit or spend tourist dollars in. Unfortunate for businesses in the state, but the blame lies squarely with the lawmakers. This point should be driven home, and I have sent letters to touring and commerce departments in the states with draconian, anti constitutional laws.

Not one reply.

 

[VVelox]

I doubt much is going to happen. The home rule locations that would do it already have.

I am excited about soon being able to by a AR pistol.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Small cities with limited budgets need to pass "assault weapons bans" so they can get tied up in court over avoidable litigation.

Military replica guns are seldomn used in ordinary crime, but they are more likely to be owned by non-criminal citizens for non-crime uses.

 

[Jeff White]

I think their goal is when they run a license plate, to know if the owner of a vehicle is a CCW holder.

This is already done in several states. I have gotten CCW info when running Tennessee drivers.

 

[Trent]

This is already done in several states. I have gotten CCW info when running Tennessee drivers.

Man, that really sucks. I hope it doesn't go down that way here.

Where I live it's probably not going to be a big deal, but if I were to travel up north and get pulled over, "Officer Friendly" might give me a real hard time for having a concealed carry license.

It's already bad enough having long hair, dressing like a hippy, and driving a Mustang 5.0.

 

[Neo-Luddite]

Trent, I wouldn't worry so much 'up North'~most LE are very pro-ccw up here, too. They may not be as vocal about their opinion in public owing to their job and the local politics.




No doubt the ccw permit will be linked to the DL / FOID in the database

 

[Kaeto]

AR15 pistols should be in high demand.

Those can't be regulated by the new law.

And.. the ATF lost a court case against TC... you can covert an ar15 pistol to a rifle and back again so long as when it's switched to a rifle, the barrel is 16" and the OAL is > 26 ", and so long as when it has a shorter barrel it never has a stock.

(But you can NOT switch a rifle to a pistol)

(EDIT: Does the 26" mark apply with the stock fully extended or fully collapsed/folded? I'm not sure on that one.)

It applies to the shortest length the gun can be and still function.

 

[owlhoot]

I've had a Tennessee CW for nearly 20 years. I've never heard of anyone legally carrying being harassed by an LEO. I've no problem with my carry permit being linked to my DR. After all, if a cop pulls over a guy who has had too much to drink, he has a right to know that the guy may also be armed.

 

[tnxdshooter]

I've had a Tennessee CW for nearly 20 years. I've never heard of anyone legally carrying being harassed by an LEO. I've no problem with my carry permit being linked to my DR. After all, if a cop pulls over a guy who has had too much to drink, he has a right to know that the guy may also be armed.

You do realize its not a concealed weapons license or concealed weapons permit right? Its called hcp Handgun Carry Permit and you can conceal or open carry. You also realize we are not required to inform right?

Sent from my mind using ninja telepathy.

 

[Davek1977]

owlhoot said:

After all, if a cop pulls over a guy who has had too much to drink, he has a right to know that the guy may also be armed.

Most officers I've spoken with feel differently. They don't consider a permit or lack there of an indication of whether someone may be armed or not, nor should they. Situational awareness means assuming anyone could be armed, permit or not, sober or not, etc. Knowing someone has a permit may indicate to the officer someone is LEGALLY armed, but legally armed individuals aren't usually the ones who cause problems for police. I'd rather NOT have my ccw info linked to my DL,and luckily here in SD, its not, nor are we required to inform. If there was a way to indicate to an officer whether someone was carrying illegally by running their DL, I'd be all for it. However, we know that is an impossibility, and as such, linking the info only makes it easier for lawful citizens to face police harassment while doing nothing to dissuade those who carry illegally.

 

[fallout mike]

Owlhoot, your statement sounds like the anti's. So, in your way of thinking, if the officer knows they have no carry permit then obviously they have no gun? How many people with permits go out and murder people compared to criminals with stolen guns? Cops will only know and harrass the law abiding citizens. Maybe they should also link up your political party and religion. After all, according to big sis, conservative political views now make you a terrorists, and all people of the muslim faith have bombs strapped to themselves right?