I'll never forget the sound....

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...of bullets flying over my head. MN white tail season opened this weekend. About 4:30 yesterday afternoon, one shot fired, couldn't tell from where, and the unmistakable sound of a bullet flying about 30 feet over my head. A half hour later, another shot, this one flew over my cousin's head. Never did find out who did the shots (hunting on private land, but close to state land). Decided to call it a day shortly after. Anyone else have a near miss?

Ryan
 
I hunt private land next to a public hunting area in West Virginia. Never fails it seems, every year some body lets loose with a five or six shot string. I scrunch my head down wondering just what in the h they are shooting at.
 
I've be hit with bird shot while in my tree stand. Someone was hunting tree rats douring deer season. Didn't get hurt, but I was mad as hell.
 
had a bullet hit the tree right next to me
never went back to public hunting ground
 
We're pretty lucky out here (western MN farmland). We hunt nearly all private land, though it seems to be treated as "semi-public" by both local hunters and landowners. Nothing really close, but when another hunter in the party cuts loose across at an angle in front of you, you do hear the "freight train" sound of the slugs whizzing by -- bit unnerving. Just heard on the news this morning that a 48-year-old woman was shot and killed near here in Grant Co. Report said it may have been one of her party members, and it was in the head! Unless this was a tripping-and-falling-while-walking-in-a-group kind of "accident" (CARELESSNESS!!), sounds kind of suspicious. I don't know of many hunters out here who can make a head shot with a slug gun at any significant distance if they tried their whole lives.:scrutiny:

Worse other places. In CA, I recall hearing "hunters" (if you do this, you're not a real hunter!) talking about shooting at sounds in the brush, but not seeing anything come out!:fire:

When I was invited on my first hunt (bowhunting the Sierras), I surprised my friends by identifying the deer zone we'd be going to from the names of a couple towns in the area. They wondered how I knew deer zones if I'd never hunted. I explained that I had fished a lot in the Sierras, and did NOT go during rifle season. "Think about it -- 0-dark-thirty in the morning, wearing drab colors, slipping through the brush along a stream, little stick-like things waving above your head. From several hundred yards out (where many of these yahoos take their shots), what do you most closely resemble?":eek: :eek:
 
Oh yea, I know that sound very well.

Hunting a clear cut in Washington one time when some knucklehead took 3 shots at me. I was in a home made stand on the back side of the clearcut when a red Toyota truck came cruising down a dirt road about 150yds away on the other side of the clearing. I had orange on while in the stand so I guess he seen me and decided that he didn't like me hunting that area.

I noticed the truck crawling along and didnt give it any thought after that. The next thing I heard was a shot from the area that the truck was at. I thought he shot into the clearcut so I looked around for deer. The second shot hit the branches above me and that upset me. The 3rd and final shot hit the tree about 5 feet from my noggin and that was enough to convince me that I was his target. I immediately threw up my rifle and put a round back at him. Hit the tailgate of the truck. The guy tossed his rifle into the truck, climbed in the passenger side, slid over to the drivers side and hawled ass out of there. My hunting pardner came running over (he was on the west side of the clearing back in the woods a bit) and asked what the heck happened.
 
you know somewhere out there, there's a forum where all the guys taking these shots are posting right now. be interesting to hear what they had to say ;)

"i saw this deer... it was like 30 feet tall and had blaze orange eyes! figgered i could get a headshot on THAT, you know? what? no, it got away. i KNOW i shot the durn thing, though..."
 
I've read of this stuff for many decades. Makes me glad that the majority of Texas hunting is on private lands where access is controlled.

I once got a cheap deal on a rifle that supposedly had been used in an accidental shooting of a hunting partner. Federal land in Colorado. Fine by me; cheap is cheap. It wasn't the gun's fault.

Regardless, I usually keep an eye out for other hunters, even on a leased ranch. Since people are much easier to find than Bambi, I generally see other people long before they see me. :)

Art
 
here in texas`

we are putting in a vineyard and the armidillos are driving us nuts. so it has been called open season here on them and so we go out into the vineyard and see one but the gun is not in the truck luckly... out of the brush walks to little kids jsut wondering around. they say that they are from around the adjactenct property andthat they are jsut walking through. if we had tried to shot that armidliio it would have meant one of those kids would have wond up shot.
(we use shotguns on the dillos)
]yoiu never know what is going to happen in the stand when ever you shot you risk hitting someone even on private land it is jsut you need to know what is what and where everyone is this makes me nervous when i think back to all of the thousands of rounds that i have fired at differnt targets
in the woods
 
I too am from MN and am sick of hunting Public Land. One too many Goobers out there during Rifle Season. Since I have no access to Private land I will Bow Hunt and Muzzleloader Hunt but NOT rifle hunt any Longer.:( I will still hunt coyote's and other critters with Rifles just not Deer. This conviction leads me to believe I will not taste Venison for a long while, but in the end I will be safer and not be dealing with all the Traffic on Public Hunting lands.
 
The nice thing about being a Certified Old Fart is that I can hunt during the week. Most of the goobers are at work. :)

However, Gary Goober can be useful. A few times, I've spotted GG wandering along, and worked out ahead of and above him (or them). I got a good payoff one time, when a really nice buck moved out some 400 yards ahead. About 100 yards from me. :D My thanks were quite sincere.

Art
 
Dunno.

Just started hunting on a WMA. You have to sign in. I don't what it's like on the weekends but the last Monday I hunted there was a grand total of five hunters signed in. 8500 acres. It's patrolled closed enough by the wardens that I don't think many people are hunting there without signing in.

I was hunting on private land once. Saw a glint in the tree line. Threw my binoculars on it. It was a guy in a climber. Lookng at me through his rifle scope. Trespassing. We had words.
 
Crap

I Hear This Bs So Much. I Have Hunted All My Life On Private And Public Land In Pennsylvania And Ohio And Have Never Been Shot At Or Had A Near Miss. I Think It People Looking For ATENTION It Doe’s Our Sport No Good To Post Crap Like This.
 
I haven't had any near misses, and considering the Pressure most of the public land I hunt gets I might be lucky. That is why I will Bow hunt my Public Spots next Season. Simply put less pressure during Most of the Bow season. Since we are talking about near misses though I will say this, I was walking into some public land about 10 yrs ago, as I walked in I heard shots. No Rounds came close to me but, when I stopped moving the shooting stopped. This was un-nerving to say the least. I got out of there as quietly as possible. Were people sound shooting? I don't know for certain. Was the noise I was making the reason for the guns going off? I am not sure. I certainly don't want to create controversy but I was freaked by the coincidences of the situation. Did I over react?
 
Sorry to burst your bubble, jjed, but it's not all "crap" and "BS". Here's one of the Star-Tribune articles on the shooting in Grant Co. We all WISH it was BS. I think that posting things like this actually does do our sport some good. Hopefully it will remind the rest of the safe hunters out there to break in newbies right, and to stay vigilant about safety themselves. On a selfish note, another sad thing is that this woman's daughter works for a gun control group, and this wil probably just add fuel to that fire. :(

Evansville grandmother killed in deer hunting accident

The fatal shooting of a woman Saturday, perhaps by someone in her party, is the first in Minnesota in two years.

In 25 years as a deer hunter, Shelley Denece Burgess took little for granted, friends said. On some hunts, she never fired a shot. And she almost always knew where others in her hunting party were.

But it may have been a member of Burgess' own hunting party, who did not know where Burgess was, that led to the 48-year-old grandmother's death Saturday morning, said Grant County Sheriff Dwight Walvatne.

Burgess became the first person in two years to die in a Minnesota hunting accident.

On the opening day of Minnesota's firearms deer season, Burgess, a bartender from Evansville, Minn., was in a field of high grass south of Ashby when she was struck in the left hip by a bullet that traveled an estimated 300 yards, Walvatne said.

"My mother's death was completely preventable," said Kari Burgess, who spent four years working for Citizens for a Safer Minnesota, an advocacy group dedicated to gun regulation and safer gun laws.

The suspected weapon, which belonged to a man in Burgess' hunting party, was being examined by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. No arrests were made as of Monday.

The shooting was being treated as an accident, Walvatne said.

"If that bullet came from down where this particular person was sitting, he couldn't see her," Walvatne said. "Not uphill. Not the way the hill crests. Not up through the grass."

Accidental hunting deaths in Minnesota are extremely rare. There were none last year, one in 2003 and two each in 2002 and 2001.

'Excited about hunting'

The mother of three grown daughters, Shelley Burgess was anything but trigger happy. Mother and daughter talked about gun safety often when they were together, Kari Burgess said, adding that her mother left nothing to chance when she went deer hunting.

"All the times we went hunting together, I don't remember a shot being fired between us," said Ken Kalenda, a friend.

"She was an experienced hunter, but she talked about always being careful," said Lynn Ellertson, manager at the Brandon Municipal Liquor Store, where Burgess tended bar. "She's one of those people who always thought about anything she did before she did it."

A sports fanatic who could hold her end of any conversation about the Vikings with the loudest customer at the end of the bar, Burgess was quick with a quip. But she grew serious when the conversation turned to deer hunting.

She was scheduled to close on a house with her boyfriend next month, and she told co-workers last week that she was excited to go hunting.

"She was always excited about hunting," said fellow bartender Laura Haugen. "Some mornings, you could tell she was stressed from all the work that goes along with getting a house. So she was really happy and excited to be able to hunt and get away from everything."

Dressed in orange, Burgess, her boyfriend and others in her hunting party settled in a "rifle zone," a vast area in which dozens of hunters wait anxiously, often unaware of other hunters close by, Walvatne said.

"You've got to know your target and what's beyond it," the sheriff said. "Safety, safety, safety. You can't repeat it enough."

Fatal hunting accidents in Minnesota have dwindled in recent decades, in part, because the state requires hunters born after 1979 to take firearms safety courses before they can buy firearms, said Mike Hammer, education coordinator for the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources' division of enforcement.

"When in doubt, don't shoot," Hammer said. "Know where all members of your hunting party are at at all times. Don't load and unload around members of your hunting party. The safety of other members of your hunting party is more important than that deer."

A daughter's memories

For Kari Burgess, whose father died of a heart attack four years ago, the shock of losing another parent echoed.

"She was in good health," said Kari, a research assistant in child safety at Johns Hopkins University. "She was the happiest person I knew. She was simple. She didn't need a lot. She was a bartender and loved it. Everything was great.

"She loved to go deer hunting ... only deer hunting. And we'd talk a lot about gun safety, probably because she'd have to defend my line of work with Citizens for a Safer Minnesota."

Shelley Burgess is survived by daughters Kari, 28, Angie, 27, and Melissa, 24, and a 1-year-old granddaughter, Eden. Funeral services will be held Friday at the Bethlehem-West Elbow Lake Lutheran Church in Burgess' hometown of Elbow Lake.
 
I hunted for deer with a rifle for the first time this year. It was on private land, and was a really good time. I don't know if I would hunt on any of the private land up there though, as there were a LOT more gunshots than I am used to. When we blackpowder hunt (my usual) we rarely see or hear another hunter.
 
After all....

Well. I Should say this,,, I was out my Hibbing on a farmland and Didn't see a Darn Thing . Not even bullets flying over my head.!:uhoh: I'll be back there In the morning again If not some where else Until I get my Deer... any Hot spot would you guys recomend?
 
Yeah, I've had a slug go THE TREE I was in....not more than 3 feet over my head. No BS. I was completely clothed in blaze orange. It's a damn scary feeling, but there was plently of anger to go with it. Hello? Open thine eyes and SEE this great big pumpkin up in this tree? DON'T shoot me!!

I hear you guys on your frustrations of public land. At the present, I am very fortunate to be able to have private land to hunt on. We still have many problems with trespassers though. But having to deer hunt on public land would really be depressing.
 
I Hear This Bs So Much. I Have Hunted All My Life On Private And Public Land In Pennsylvania And Ohio And Have Never Been Shot At Or Had A Near Miss. I Think It People Looking For ATENTION It Doe’s Our Sport No Good To Post Crap Like This.

Okay, I have never been shot at directly. Heard plenty of stuff pass over. Run poachers off our land all the time. The last few times I hunted private land with my dad I encountered people hunting our land twice and a marijuana plot once. On our land!
Public land, I go in alone at 4am, sit down, take off my orange and stay in place until everyone else is back at the truck for lunch. Then I put orange back on, make a ton of noise and walk out. I won't wear orange in place, I don't move. It's a lot safer in my mind to have hunters walk by me 20 feet away and never see me. I carry a sidearm when hunting as well. I have seen too many dumb things in the woods.

A Pennsylvania example for you. Former Tour de France winner Greg LeMond decided to sit in a Pennsylvania bush and make turkey noises. A relative shot said turkey noises. It apparently put quite a crimp in LeMond's training to get all the shotgun pellets out.

Down here, not a year goes by without an accidental shooting in Deer season.
 
although the choice of words was wrong i agree with jjed we dont need to be saying this in a public room thisis the kinda stuff antis look for they want to hear stories about the stupid people normal everyday hunters are the ones that get hurt for these stories and the stupid ones almost always get away so we get caught and have to take the blame if anti's keep hearing of peole pouching andd people killing people it just adds fuel to their fire so we do need to watch this topic closely
thank you
 
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