TallPine
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Good for them!
But I think it would be even more effective if they just all went home to Mexico
But I think it would be even more effective if they just all went home to Mexico
Illegal Immigration-How to fix it?
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cz75bdneos22
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great!, now that they will be out of the jobs, let the willing and waiting for an opening... unemployed American replacements step up and walk the walk...here we are to save the day!!!!!! I will be waiting for the lines to fill these job that illegals are taking away from Americans...it was so easy, thanks for the walkout!! job, jobs..plenty of jobs Americans...step up and fill in the shoes of much maligned undocumented workers....let me know how it turns out!!
RealGun
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Actually I doubt if it is legal to ask them for proof of citizenship or immigration status. For all anyone is entitled to know, it is just an American right to free assembly. Where is a good JBT when you need one?
Jammer, I don't where you work or have worked, but every job I've had in the last 20 years required a background check. I did it with my own business and considered it good business and a cost of doing business. I would think in todays world a small fee would be worth the cost versus the fines that could and most likely will happen.. I don't make a case for or against, only a warning to those who don't or won't check the validity,it may be at your checkbooks peril..
JMO
A few years ago I ran a systems integration company specializing in the design and installation of what is now considered Grid computing..
And I must declline the offer, I'm semi retired. But thanks for the thought..
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Sindawe
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Fixing illegal immigration?
Giving the illegals in state tuition rates to our Universities is NOT a fix.
A good solid fence would be a start to fixing the problem, along with a "Chip and release" program for illegals that are caught. Catch'em, chip'em, release'em on the other side of the border. If the chipped are caught again, they are graciously released from the burdens of this mortal coil.
Giving the illegals in state tuition rates to our Universities is NOT a fix.
A good solid fence would be a start to fixing the problem, along with a "Chip and release" program for illegals that are caught. Catch'em, chip'em, release'em on the other side of the border. If the chipped are caught again, they are graciously released from the burdens of this mortal coil.
Quote: great!, now that they will be out of the jobs, let the willing and waiting for an opening... unemployed American replacements step up and walk the walk...here we are to save the day!!!!!!
The myth continues. Now you can see the panic setting in. Americans will work these jobs left by illegals. This really started because of employers that wanted to by-pass paying those pesky taxes. They did save some money in wages, but at the same time it cost the American people many times more in welfare costs for these workers that pay zero into the system.
Now I am happy to have them have a one day strike. In fact, I would like to see it extended long enough for Americans to realize that these illegals are not “The Backbone Of The Country” as they stated the other day. I am betting that they will not try to extend because they know the real truth will be exposed.
Now if I am wrong, and illegals really run this Country, I would like to know.
My wife and I have never attended a political rally before, but I think they are going to organize a counter rally here to protest the May (DAY) 1st strike…we will both attend.
The myth continues. Now you can see the panic setting in. Americans will work these jobs left by illegals. This really started because of employers that wanted to by-pass paying those pesky taxes. They did save some money in wages, but at the same time it cost the American people many times more in welfare costs for these workers that pay zero into the system.
Now I am happy to have them have a one day strike. In fact, I would like to see it extended long enough for Americans to realize that these illegals are not “The Backbone Of The Country” as they stated the other day. I am betting that they will not try to extend because they know the real truth will be exposed.
Now if I am wrong, and illegals really run this Country, I would like to know.
My wife and I have never attended a political rally before, but I think they are going to organize a counter rally here to protest the May (DAY) 1st strike…we will both attend.
CAnnoneer
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Please explain how that works. If we open the gates, we can expect tens of millions of immigrants within a few years. Exactly what will happen to the areas they move in? How will they all find jobs? What will happen to those who find themselves semi-permanently unemployed? What happens to those they displace from menial jobs, such as students working part-time and blue-collar citizens? What will the unemployment rates be? What will happen to criminality rates? Who will pay for the extra jails, schools, hospitals, and social services?
If this is a thread about solutions, please offer something at least mildly resembling reality and pragmatism.
longeyes
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Mexico needs to be quarantined until the disease that infects their culture is isolated and eradicated.
longeyes
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The demonstrations a week ago were the brainchild of leftwing political organizations with an internationalist agenda, aided and abetted by chauvinistic Spanish-speaking media and the liberation theology arm of the American Catholic Church. It is no accident they are picking May Day for their next coming out. We will be wise to see what's going on for what it really is, and wiser to see where it's all heading. Do we want to willingly transform the U.S. into a socialist nation? Has ANYONE in the media addressed the social and political implications of what we're seeing and what's being hatched in D.C.? For those who think this is fanciful I suggest taking a good, hard look at political developments throughout the Americas.
Waitone
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Latest news on the moneybags for the demonstrations is the Ford Foundation was lead and CFR was drag. I find CFR to be interesting because it was pretty much limited itself to egghead deliberation and left public action to other organizations. Time will tell. I am sure the bloggers are busy at work.
RealGun
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Condoning killing people for illegally immigrating is not what I think of as the High Road or as American. I hope you're not serious. These are people, not rats.
How about if a person is caught twice, they are shipped off to a secured island somewhere? I guess that better be a large island
.CAnnoneer
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The fact is, getting into a shooting solution will have profound consequences on our own country and culture. As others pointed out, the last thing freedom-loving Americans would want is a trigger-happy fedgov.
The solution is to remove the incentives for illegals coming here through enforcement at the employer level while making it extremely easy to identify illegals by their lack of tamper-proof driver's licenses that citizens and permanent residents have. An SSN card is a joke now. Once every deported batch goes back to their village in Mejico and reports tough enforcement, fines, and lack of jobs, the "wave" would turn into a trickle. That will allow border partol to concentrate on what they should be worried about instead - jihadists with nukes.
ken grant
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Borders
All of the above is a moot point,nothing will work until the borders are better controlled!
Another point is,why would an American work at a min. payscale and have to pay taxes,ins., when they would be more ahead by collecting welfare,medicaid,food stamps and help with rent.
All of the above is a moot point,nothing will work until the borders are better controlled!
Another point is,why would an American work at a min. payscale and have to pay taxes,ins., when they would be more ahead by collecting welfare,medicaid,food stamps and help with rent.
TX35
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If the Illegals think they have political power by striking on the job for one day, let them. I say that all of the legal Americans walk out on strike for one day (including all hospital personnel), then we will see who really has the power. When the transit people walked out in NY, it shut them down. I'm willing to bet the politicians would pass this Bill faster than anything!!
Sindawe
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Rats and most other non-human animals instinctually understand the need to defend ones home from invaders. Go take a few pokes at a wasp nest if you need verification of that. Most people get it when it comes to talking about one's personal home. But for some reason when talking about the national home and invaders, the mind blanks out when it comes to making the hard choices. Make no mistake, an invasion it is, though it does not come with military organization and weapons. Usually.
OK, have you an island in mind? Hmmmm.....
Ya know, Antarctica was once lush and green. With the change in the climate that looks to be occurring and the melting of the ice caps, it can be again.
Antarctica, the New Aztlan!
longeyes
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Fr. Junipero Serra is dead, long dead
I'm still trying to figure out why the American Left is hell-bent on restricting native births by promoting abortion, posits a high-tech Euro-type society as the model, wants tight environmental strictures--but also loves the idea of massive illegal--ideally, in their minds, legal--immigration.
Contradictory? I think it is.
Illegal immigration, in the numbers we are talking about, is anathema to a modern, technological society. It is a regression to a low-tech, cheap labor, serf state. We don't need the Federal gov't establishing a new "mission" system to take care of the indigent in California.
Why would our Government, we should be asking ourselves, be pushing something like this?
Why should we, as American citizens, entertain the idea even for a minute?
We owe nothing to the rest of the world; what we owe we owe to ourselves. The rest of the world can benefit by our model, by our example, by our discoveries, by our trade.
I'm still trying to figure out why the American Left is hell-bent on restricting native births by promoting abortion, posits a high-tech Euro-type society as the model, wants tight environmental strictures--but also loves the idea of massive illegal--ideally, in their minds, legal--immigration.
Contradictory? I think it is.
Illegal immigration, in the numbers we are talking about, is anathema to a modern, technological society. It is a regression to a low-tech, cheap labor, serf state. We don't need the Federal gov't establishing a new "mission" system to take care of the indigent in California.
Why would our Government, we should be asking ourselves, be pushing something like this?
Why should we, as American citizens, entertain the idea even for a minute?
We owe nothing to the rest of the world; what we owe we owe to ourselves. The rest of the world can benefit by our model, by our example, by our discoveries, by our trade.
Apparantly, the Senate is trying to sneak in subsidized in-state tutition at American universities with the Guest Worker Amnesty.
Amazing...
www.alipac.us/article1135.htm
Biker
Amazing...
www.alipac.us/article1135.htm
Biker
longeyes
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We had Voodoo Economics once before. Well, it's back, in a more advanced form. Call it Plantation Economics.
So much for the goal of building an advanced, modern, high-tech society. We're going to go the other way now, it seems. While Asian nations try to curb their populations and push high-tech to the max, we are seemingly trying to replicate their earlier model of "More Bodies."
People talk about the theocratizing of America, well, this is the form it is really taking. The "mission system" writ large.
I hope y'all like bananas.
So much for the goal of building an advanced, modern, high-tech society. We're going to go the other way now, it seems. While Asian nations try to curb their populations and push high-tech to the max, we are seemingly trying to replicate their earlier model of "More Bodies."
People talk about the theocratizing of America, well, this is the form it is really taking. The "mission system" writ large.
I hope y'all like bananas.
longeyes
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And why would a "guest" need educational benefits at all?
We all know the real idea here: Anyone who walks across the border is a de facto citizen with every right that you and I have. And we all know why that is being promoted.
We really need a "stop the insanity" movement. Muy pronto!
longeyes
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How do you say BOHICA in Espanol?
I don't believe that but I also don't believe there are any panaceas.
One can watch America dissolve before our eyes, in a generation, one can move to New Zealand or Ireland, or...or...
Longeyes...
Oh, I'm in this for the long haul. The problem with this invasion is, nobody cares until it reaches their doorstep and by that time, *it's too late*.
The sooner the dance starts, the better for the US.
Every time an immigrant crosses the border, *They* get stronger.
Biker
Oh, I'm in this for the long haul. The problem with this invasion is, nobody cares until it reaches their doorstep and by that time, *it's too late*.
The sooner the dance starts, the better for the US.
Every time an immigrant crosses the border, *They* get stronger.
Biker
longeyes
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The issue has now reached mass public consciousness. IT'S NOT TOO LATE. Fine, there are 10, 20, 30 million illegals. There are three hundred million Americans. We are still in control of our destiny--IF we want to be.
I just heard Tom Tancredo say he'll run President in '08 if no one else steps forward on this issue.
I just heard Tom Tancredo say he'll run President in '08 if no one else steps forward on this issue.
spartacus2002
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hell, I'll take a day off work to go backfill a striking Mexican somewhere. I'll call the press and they can watch me digging a ditch with a smile.
Now THAT's a countermovement.
Now THAT's a countermovement.
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