Illegal Immigration-How to fix it?

[Waitone]

I remind esteemed forum members that highly influential members of shadow governmental organizations have published documents such as North American Community (by CFR).

The same organization's publications have been cited by the White House in press releases pertaining to trilateral discussions our president has had with presidents of Canada and Mexico.

Said organization (CFR) is a sponsor of the recent wave of illegal immigration demonstrations.

And said organization published a North American integration date of 2010 (CFR).

I am personally unaware of any measure our president has taken to conflict with any provisions of the aforementioned document or other globalist oriented missives. Let me be precise in my accusations. Unrestrained immigration into the US is consistent with globalists intentions in the construction of a new world trading order.

I don't need conspiracy theories when I have AP stories and White House press releases.

 

[longeyes]

Yes, and overt effrontery--an in-your-face expropriation of the U.S. polity--is the most repellent aspect of the whole charade.

It's one thing to steal; another to steal you blind right in front of your eyes. And smile while doing it.

 

[longeyes]

a light-hearted look at illegal immigration

No, I don't mean Jeb Bush balling his eyes out because talking about illegal immigration is "hurtful," I mean this:

"O" No! Dorismar Gets An "O" Visa!

By Rob Sanchez

[Recently by Rob Sanchez: Reflections On the Minuteman Project]

"O" visas are one of the few guest worker programs that have evaded public debate. Traditionally they have been used for a small number of aliens of "exceptional foreign talent".

Typically these visas are granted to aliens who have received internationally recognized awards, such as the Nobel Prize.

Unlike the H-1B visa, which employers use to import cheap labor for white-collar jobs, "O" visa recipients must truly be exceptional.

But, in an amazing development, an Argentine pin-up girl for Playboy Magazine, Dorismar (aka Dora Noemi Kerchen), has been approved for an "O" visa on the argument that her good looks qualify her. (Research the question on her official website.)

This means the "O" visa is on the verge of becoming another guest worker visa program.

The Dorismar controversy began when she was arrested at her Florida home on Jan. 5, 2006 for violating U.S. immigration laws.

Dorismar was getting ready to sign a contract to be a calendar-girl for a trucking company when she heard pounding at her front door. She found Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers handcuffing her husband.

Dorismar, who was also arrested, was deported along with her husband to Buenos Aires within 8 hours.

The arrests were made because both Dorismar and her husband were illegal aliens. Dorismar came to the U.S. on a visitor visa, but once here decided to overstay her visa.

Before her arrest, Dorismar’s illegal alien status had not stopped her from buying a house in Doral Florida, or from getting lucrative jobs in modeling, pornography, singing, and acting.

Dorismar was just another one of the millions of illegal aliens who live and work in the U.S.

Rumors in the Hispanic community had it that, in a classic war of the divas, a rival Latina model betrayed her. Supposedly, a sexpot from Cuba named Sissi (aka Isabel Fleitas) finked on Dorismar in order to get the contract for the trucker’s calendar.

Sissi, who also admits to entering the US as an illegal alien, categorically denies that she reported Dorismar. But that hasn’t ended the rampant gossip on Hispanic websites and blogs.

Dorismar wasn’t happy about being deported although she admitted entering the U.S. and overstaying her visa. In an attempt to re-enter the U.S. she hired an immigration attorney named Michael Feldenkrais (e-mail him).

People who have followed the story assumed that Dorismar was trying to get an H-1B visa. This would be a logical choice since there is a provision in H-1B for fashion models.

But Feldenkrais explained his strategy in a letter to the Immigration Lawyer’s Website. He revealed he was seeking an "O" visa for Dorismar.

Feldenkrais also appeared in a remarkable interview on MSNBC’s Tucker Carlson Show. He argued that his client possessed extraordinary abilities to "show what men like to see in magazines like Playboy", citing her curvaceous posterior. (Hey, I’m not kidding, he really said that!)

The major requirements for the "O" visa are defined by USCIS regulation Title 8 CFR 214.2(o).

It is true that one requirement is "an alien who has a demonstrated record of extraordinary achievement in motion picture and/or television productions."

But let's have a reality check here. Dorismar starred in Latinas Gone Crazy, which is about a bunch of drunken college girls.

Maybe Feldenkrais used the provision that requires "evidence that the alien has a record of major commercial or critically acclaimed successes as evidenced by such indicators as title, rating, standing in the field, [and] box office receipts."

Dorismar’s music recordings are very hot sellers in Hispanic communities as well as throughout Mexico and South America, and she sells a lot of tickets for her concerts.

Despite Dorismar’s popularity as a Latina diva, claiming that she has been recognized with distinction is a stretch. Great opera singers like Pavarotti would probably qualify for an "O" visa. But Dorismar is not Pavarotti.

Perhaps the best provision for Dorismar was the one that asks for "evidence that the alien has received significant recognition for achievements from organizations, critics, government agencies, or other recognized experts in the field in which the alien is engaged."

Dorismar may have qualified for this one because, as Feldenkrais confirmed in an email to me, she opened for another Latina singer named Paulina Rubio during John Kerry's 2004 Democratic National Convention.

On first impression it would seem that Dorismar made a poor decision to hire Feldenkrais. Her case for an "O" visa is very weak…isn’t it?

Apparently not. Feldenkrais has confirmed to me via email that he has recently won approval for his petition for Dorismar’s contention that she is an "alien of extraordinary ability".

Dorismar still faces other legal hurdles. She is an illegal alien who got caught and deported. There is a 10-year bar to admissibility following such deportations.

According to Feldenkrais he is in the process of appealing the 10-year rule for Dorismar. Feldenkrais may have a tough time getting a waiver. But based on his accomplishments so far, it wouldn’t be prudent to underestimate him.

Dorismar’s "O" visa is an insult to the great scientists, businessmen, and artists from around the world that qualify for an "O" visa.

It sets a very bad precedent that can only make our immigration system an even bigger farce than it already is—and turn the "O" visa will into a cheap labor program like H-1B.

Rob Sanchez (email him) is a Senior Writing Fellow for Californians for Population Stabilization and author of the "Job Destruction Newsletter" (sign up for it here) at www.ZaZona.com.

(from vdare.com)

 

[Ira Aten]

Is right of assembly, and petitioning Congress still legal?

Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution (says in part) The Congress shall have power...


"...To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the Union, supress insurrections, and repel invasions."

With eleven million illegal aliens illegally entering our country, anyone halfway reasonably capable of serving in Congress would have to agree, such an enormous number of illegals entering our country surely constitutes an invasion.

Considering that the Constitution also in the same Article and Section says, "Congress shall have the power ....

"To establish an uniform rule of naturalization...."

To me, it appears the Constitution mandates that certain rules were to be followed regarding immigration, and should an invasion occur the United States Congress has the power to call forth the militia.

I also noticed the Constitution does not specify an armed invasion, it only addresses the powers Congress has if our country is invaded.

I have noticed the majority of people who claim it is impossible to repel this continuing invasion appear to be either members of Congress, members of the lobby group for the illegal aliens, and a minority number of American citizens.
Indeed 80 percent seem to be in favor of halting illegal immigration.

In the recent years, many legal citizens of our country have stated a willingness to serve in the militia described by the Founders. They in fact assembled themselves for service, long before Congress responded to this problem in any manner whatsoever.

They even named the citizen conscripts which joined this militia, the "Minutemen", out of respect for our nations founding fathers.
To one not schooled in Constitutional law, it seems to me, (a simple layman) that Congress has the power to resolve this issue according to its Constitutional powers, but not the desire as evidenced by their lumbering response.

The Constitution appears to additionally provide in the First Amendment, the right of (We the People) the people to not only peacefully assemble but to peacefully assemble for the exact purpose of petitioning Congress itself to act in the interests "for the People", rather than for their own individual political careers or the benefit of foreign citizens choosing to illegally invade our country.

Today, from what I am watching occur in the United States Senate during discussions of "Guest Worker" issues, Congress seems more interested in protecting individuals who have chosen to enter our country illegally, as opposed to addressing the invasion.

My understanding of the word guest, is it describes someone who has either asked for entry into my house, and waits for permission to enter, or someone who responds to my direct invitation by me to enter my house or property.


So here is my question. Is it legal for American citizens to peacefully assemble and petition Congress for redress? I know it is constitutional, I just am wondering if it is legal. And by this, I mean collectively petitioning Congress for redress, not simply protesting for protest sake)

 

[longeyes]

Petition whom?

People who have already demonstrated they don't give a damn what you think?

 

[Jammer Six]

So here is my question. Is it legal for American citizens to peacefully assemble and petition Congress for redress? I know it is constitutional, I just am wondering if it is legal. And by this, I mean collectively petitioning Congress for redress, not simply protesting for protest sake)

Sure, it's legal.

Won't work, but it's legal. Let us know how that works out for you, and then come back and lecture us on wasting taxpayer's dollars on immigrants.

 

[Old Fuff]

Stricter Rules Good for Mexican Smugglers

Those who don't live in the desert southwest seldom understand how the "border crossers" work. This article explains how the system really works, and what it sometimes costs an illegal to get in. Business after all, is... business.


Stricter Rules Good for Mexican Smugglers
By JULIE WATSON (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
April 05, 2006 1:54 PM EDT

DOLORES HIDALGO, Mexico - Barely 18, Jose belongs to Mexico's new generation of migrant smugglers - young, savvy and happy to see Uncle Sam further tighten border security. Why? It's good for business, he says.

Jose figures more migrants will seek his help if the U.S. Senate approves legislation to double the Border Patrol and put up a virtual wall of unmanned vehicles, cameras and sensors to monitor the 2,000-mile border with Mexico.

Border experts say the price for helping Mexicans move north has quadrupled from $300 to $1,200 since 1994, when the U.S. last tightened the rules. Cases are coming to light of smugglers making $1 million or more. And Jose reckons the earnings will rise yet higher if new obstacles go up.
"This is never going to end," he said. "The United States cannot work without Mexicans."

Jose is a lanky, baby-faced teen in a baseball cap who says he started smuggling people late last year and made $16,000 in his first three months. His mother worries, but needs the money - Jose was making $53 a week cutting lettuce. Talking to a reporter outside their humble, adobe house near this city in central Mexico, Jose and his mother asked to withhold their surname for fear of arrest.

"We're always going to look for a way to get in, and there's always a way," Jose said. "This is a business for everyone."

Not so, says John Cornyn, the Texas Republican who chairs the Senate's Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship subcommittee. The way to hurt smugglers' business is by "securing our borders and working cooperatively with other nations on enforcement," along with providing a temporary worker program, he said in a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press.

The Senate is debating a series of immigration bills. Some simply bolster border enforcement and crack down on employers. Others offer a temporary worker program and possible legalization of the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in the United States. The House version would impose criminal penalties and build 700 miles of border fence.

Victor Clark, a Mexican border expert in Tijuana who has studied smugglers' patterns for decades, agrees with Jose. "This is going to have the opposite effect of what the U.S. government wants, since the demand for migrant smugglers is going to go up," he said.

The smuggling business flourished after the U.S. Border Patrol cracked down on the busiest crossings into Texas and California in 1994.

Migrants were funneled into the remote Arizona desert, and domestic flights into Hermosillo, Sonora, the biggest Mexican city near the Arizona border, jumped from 20 a week in 1994 to nearly 500 today. The airport's baggage claim area is often nearly empty because migrants arrive with little more than a duffel bag for the rest of their journey.Many risk death walking for 30 hours in 100 degree temperatures through remote desert terrain. The smuggler leading them may well be linked to organized crime, though Jose says he isn't.

That too is a change from the days when it was considered something of a community service in Mexican villages and older, trusted men would show relatives and neighbors the safest routes.

Now a growing number of smugglers are like Jose - in it just for the money.
"The new generation of migrant smugglers are youths who see their clients as merchandise," Clark said. "Many of them abandon the migrants in the desert or give them drugs, or tell migrants they know the way when they don't, and they end up dying along with the migrants. Others have turned to violence to steal clients from other smugglers."

Smuggling people into the United States from around the world has become a $10 billion-a-year business rivaling drug profits, according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials who started tracking smuggler profits three years ago.

A Texas-based smuggler who was sentenced to nine years in federal prison in December earned nearly $1 million driving about 6,000 illegal Latin American migrants to work in Chinese restaurants throughout the upper Midwest.

In January, ICE investigators arrested two Texas families who allegedly earned $1.6 million in two years by hiring a fleet of trucks near the border city of El Paso to transport migrants across the United States.

"One truck driver, all he did was transport aliens," said Dan Page, acting special agent in charge for ICE in El Paso.

In the central Mexican ranching town of San Diego, migrants board smugglers' trucks and vans nearly every Sunday to head for the border.

"The smugglers around here have the biggest houses," said resident Guillermo Melchor, who said he paid $1,300 to get to Houston through a trafficking network.

He made it but said his 23-year-old friend, crossing separately, died of a heart attack after taking a stimulant from a smuggler to endure the long desert walk.

Jose charges $1,200 per person, sharing his earnings with a driver who waits on a highway outside Laredo, Texas, to pick up the migrants, and another man who provides a Houston safe house for new arrivals.He said he made his first $16,000 smuggling 40 people in four journeys from the cactus-studded state of Guanajuato by bus to the border, then across the Rio Grande to meet the driver.

They usually wade across at night, then walk for two hours through the scrubby south Texas desert, with the lights of Laredo in view. Jose's rules are simple: Keep alert. No talking. No smoking. If you see a light flash or hear a noise, it could be the border patrol. If you see someone, run like crazy.
Jose says he treats his migrants well and even helps those he finds abandoned in the desert - for a price, of course.

After all, he said: "It's business."

http://enews.earthlink.net/article/int?guid=20060405/443340c0_3ca6_1552620060405-1874123361

 

[Biker]

Jammer....

Check out www.numbersusa.com.
They've signed up 18,000 new members in the last 3 weeks and they're all sending free faxes, making calls and emailing the House and Senate expressing their concern over this illegel infestation. Rumor is, it's doing some good. Hey, you oughta join up.
It seems to be doing some good.
Biker

 

[Waitone]

I'm hearing the response is every bit as strong as it was during the Ports Fiasco. It just doesn't match the media agenda so it never gets reported.

 

[Phetro]

Simple Solution

1. Kill the welfare state. Only total and absolute dissolution of all socialist programs is acceptable.

2. Vigorously enforce existing immigration laws. Implement a five-year, 500% increase in INS agents assigned to Search and Deport missions.

3. Stop the leftists in the media from influencing the public to sympathize with illegal aliens. Expose their treachery to the people.

4. Create TAX BREAKS for citizens who report illegal aliens within the next five years.

You want to get rid of them fast? That's how right there.

 

[jmf]

Repel the invasion.

Before this country became emasculated, before this country lost its virility. an invasion of this scope would have never been allowed. It is said repeatedly that it would be impossible to send all the illegal aliens back to Mexico. The last straw for me was the march of illegal aliens in Los Angeles waving the Mexican flag. This was followed by a Houston, Texal high school flying a Mexican flag.

There is a tried and true method of securing the border. Force of arms.

Along with securing the border by armed force. Build detention centers hold the illegal alien invaders while transportation back to Mexico is arranged. This will take a little time, but it is do-able.

Have a detention center solely for holding all the leftists who have been encouraging and actively assisting this invasion from Mexico.and charge these people with treason or sedition or both.

Do not vote for any incumbent in the next election. They have ignored us and devoted their energy to facilitating a takeover of our country by the illegal aliens.

There are moments in history and this is one of those moments to excercise our Second Ammendment Right.

That's all I have to say about this.

 

[longeyes]

on a mission from God?

For forty years Ted Kennedy, the arch-architect of so much of what is finally bearing fruit today, has been on a crusade to de-Protestantize and de-Europeanize America. Perhaps he has a Missionary Complex; perhaps it's something far more insidious. I would not scruple to call it racism. I would not scruple to call it psychopathology.

I am still waiting for him to be questioned about this.

The issue is not and never has been "race." The issue is cultural. Strip away the Protestant and European core of American and you lose the philosophical underpinnings of America's essential political legacy, gestated over centuries in Christian Europe and then fully born in the Enlightenment. No one wants to talk about such "touchy" subjects any more, in our illuminated epoch of Political Correctness; we'd better start if we want America to be more than a one-stop global shopping destination.

 

[JoeSF]

When will American workers get tired of having their wages sacrificed on the alter of deflation?

....When all protected government workers and elitist professionals who are protected from competition get their earnings cut!
How come I meet engineers and doctors from Eastern Europe driving cabs here because they cant practice their profession in America? Why do teachers still have the nerve to demand a raise or go on strike! BECAUSE THEY ARE IMMUNE TO WAGE COMPETITION FROM ABROAD!!!! Which is the one thing we love about illegals, they will work on the cheap saving participation in the costly workman’s compensation, unemployment, health, and retirement programs the American public voted for!


http://freshcleanday.com/converse.html

Meanwhile, John McCain thinks Americans won’t pick lettuce for 50 bucks an hour because we are spoiled. The story follows here is the link and an excerpt from Tammy Bruce:

http://tammybruce.com/archives/2006/04/john_mccain_thi.php

John McCain Thinks Americans Are French

In other words, we're a bunch of lazy, spoiled children. But the last time I checked, it wasn't a bunch of French cry-babies saving the world from freakish Islamist terrorists. Consider this outrageous comment from McCain at a speech today to the AFL-CIO (or what's left of it):

Labor leaders boo McCain on immigration, Iraq

[...]But he took more questions, including a pointed one on his immigration plan.

McCain responded by saying immigrants were taking jobs nobody else wanted. He offered anybody in the crowd $50 an hour to pick lettuce in Arizona.

Shouts of protest rose from the crowd, with some accepting McCain’s job offer.

“I’ll take it!” one man shouted.

McCain insisted none of them would do such menial labor for a complete season. “You can’t do it, my friends.”

Some in the crowd said they didn’t appreciate McCain questioning their work ethic.

Uh, yeah. Gee, I think this makes things very clear. John McCain, a United States senator, didn't just pull the example of $50 an hour for "picking lettuce" out of his keister. No, he thought about that. And he thought that even for a decent about of money (which amounts to $8,000 a month, $96,000 a year, btw) that Americans wouldn't either "lower" themselves to do that work, or find it simply "too hard."

That's a funny thing to say considering the fact that our low-paid enlisted troops, young men and women between the ages of 19-23, are doing something as unglamorous, more difficult, and certainly more dangerous than "lettuce picking."

6:51 PM

 

[longeyes]

and, meanwhile, in breaking news...

Our beloved House of Lords--aka The Senate--has apparently hammered out a "compromise." It took an all-nighter and a realization that the Easter two-week recess lies just ahead. Tough men these.

The "compromise," should it become become law, will ensure the death of the GOP. You can forget about the GOP winning any major elections in the next 25 years. After that it won't matter, there won't be any more elections.

Now why would so many GOP Senators vote to end their own viability?

M-O-N-E-Y.

They don't need us, they don't the GOP, they don't care about us or the Party.

All bets are off, ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Desertdog]

Minutemen report nearly 600 illegal immigrant sightings so far

I guess the word didn't get out as to what area they are patrolling.

Minutemen report nearly 600 illegal immigrant sightings so far
http://kvoa.com/global/story.asp?s=4735670&ClientType=Printable

Minuteman border watch volunteers deployed in Arizona this month have called in close to 600 sightings of illegal immigrants observed crossing through the desert southwest of Tucson.


Connie Hair, spokeswoman for the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, said that Minutemen had reported 591 sightings of suspected illegal immigrants to the U.S. Border Patrol from Saturday, when the monthlong operation south of Three Points began, through early afternoon Wednesday.

She said the calls resulted in 203 apprehensions by the U.S. Border Patrol.

When Minutemen staged their first such patrols last April along the border near Naco in southeastern Arizona, they claimed credit for sightings that resulted in apprehension of about 330 illegal immigrants for the entire month.

This year, Minuteman volunteers are set up on private ranch lands about 35 miles north of the Mexican border in a corridor that has become the busiest in the Border Patrol's Tucson sector for illegal immigrant trafficking.

Volunteers are to call or radio the Border Patrol with any sightings.

The Border Patrol initially indicated that it would track calls from Minutemen reporting sightings, but on Wednesday, spokesman Johnny Bernal said there was a decision not to do so.

Bernal said the agency receives numerous calls daily from citizens.

"We have hundreds of calls a day, so trying to decipher who's Minuteman, who isn't, would just be a difficult task," he said.

Hair said there have been 78 sightings by Minuteman volunteers in New Mexico resulting in 28 apprehensions; 200 sightings near Falfurrias, Texas, with no figure available on resulting apprehensions, and 38 sightings near San Diego in California, also with an undetermined number of apprehensions. No sightings have been reported in Washington state or New York state, she added.

 

[JoeSF]

Ever wonder why their aren't any marches in Mexico?

Ever wonder why their aren't any marches in Mexico? While American communists and socialists busy themselves bashing the United States, the corrupt Mexican government gets a pass.



Mexico prefers to export its poor, not uplift them

At this week's summit, failed reforms under Fox should be the issue, not US actions.

By George W. Grayson

WILLIAMSBURG, VA. – At the parleys this week with his US and Canadian counterparts in Cancún, Mexican President Vicente Fox will press for more opportunities for his countrymen north of the Rio Grande. Specifically, he will argue for additional visas for Mexicans to enter the United States and Canada, the expansion of guest-worker schemes, and the "regularization" of illegal immigrants who reside throughout the continent. In a recent interview with CNN, the Mexican chief executive excoriated as "undemocratic" the extension of a wall on the US-Mexico border and called for the "orderly, safe, and legal" northbound flow of Mexicans, many of whom come from his home state of Guanajuato.
Mexican legislators share Mr. Fox's goals. Silvia Hernández Enriquez, head of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations for North America, recently emphasized that the solution to the "structural phenomenon" of unlawful migration lies not with "walls or militarization" but with "understanding, cooperation, and joint responsibility."

Such rhetoric would be more convincing if Mexican officials were making a good faith effort to uplift the 50 percent of their 106 million people who live in poverty. To his credit, Fox's "Opportunities" initiative has improved slightly the plight of the poorest of the poor. Still, neither he nor Mexico's lawmakers have advanced measures that would spur sustained growth, improve the quality of the workforce, curb unemployment, and obviate the flight of Mexicans abroad.

Indeed, Mexico's leaders have turned hypocrisy from an art form into an exact science as they shirk their obligations to fellow citizens, while decrying efforts by the US senators and representatives to crack down on illegal immigration at the border and the workplace.

What are some examples of this failure of responsibility?

• When oil revenues are excluded, Mexico raises the equivalent of only 9 percent of its gross domestic product in taxes - a figure roughly equivalent to that of Haiti and far below the level of major Latin American nations. Not only is Mexico's collection rate ridiculously low, its fiscal regime is riddled with loopholes and exemptions, giving rise to widespread evasion. Congress has rebuffed efforts to reform the system.

• Insufficient revenues mean that Mexico spends relatively little on two key elements of social mobility: Education commands just 5.3 percent of its GDP and healthcare only 6.10 percent, according to the World Bank's last comparative study.

• A venal, "come-back-tomorrow" bureaucracy explains the 58 days it takes to open a business in Mexico compared with three days in Canada, five days in the US, nine days in Jamaica, and 27 days in Chile. Mexico's private sector estimates that 34 percent of the firms in the country made "extra official" payments to functionaries and legislators in 2004. These bribes totaled $11.2 billion and equaled 12 percent of GDP.

• Transparency International, a nongovernmental organization, placed Mexico in a tie with Ghana, Panama, Peru, and Turkey for 65th among 158 countries surveyed for corruption.

• Economic competition is constrained by the presence of inefficient, overstaffed state oil and electricity monopolies, as well as a small number of private corporations - closely linked to government big shots - that control telecommunications, television, food processing, transportation, construction, and cement. Politicians who talk about, much less propose, trust-busting measures are as rare as a snowfall in the Sonoran Desert.

Geography, self-interests, and humanitarian concerns require North America's neighbors to cooperate on myriad issues, not the least of which is immigration. However, Mexico's power brokers have failed to make the difficult decisions necessary to use their nation's bountiful wealth to benefit the masses. Washington and Ottawa have every right to insist that Mexico's pampered elite act responsibly, rather than expecting US and Canadian taxpayers to shoulder burdens Mexico should assume.

• George W. Grayson, who teaches government at the College of William & Mary, is the author of "Mesías Mexicano," forthcoming, a book about Mexican presidential front-runner Andrés Manuel López Obrador.

5:27 PM

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[longeyes]

Brave men, but they're wasting their time. Illegal is legal. There is no border.

They are quixotic, tilting at windmills.

Learn Spanish; better, marry a Mexican.

 

[Thefabulousfink]

But Wait, I thought the Minutemen were a bunch of racist, gun-toting, redneck ya-hoos who are out to shoot anything that moves. This article doesn't mention just how many thousands of immigrants have been killed in hails of racist gunfire.

 

[Blue Jays]

Hi Thefabulousfink-

Have no fear, the MSM will get to the juicy part about the hail of racist gunfire in the sequel to this initial report!

~ Blue Jays ~

 

[Cuda]

The one thing that still escapes me on this compromise bill is how will law enforcment know who has been in country 0-2 years 2-5 years etc. The illegals are illegals and don't have any proof of anything??? This is a farce to appease the uninformed..

I just became an independent, sorry libertarians...


C

 

[Waitone]

I think what the senate did is pretty much par for the course. I would love to see the list of senators (33 or 34) who are up for election November and see what their position is on the grand compromise. Just off hand I would expect them to favor a house lookalike position.

Keep in mind the battle going on in DC is over votes ulitmately. The house think they will lose votes in November while the senate fears they will lose future votes of a new constitutency. . . .all except the 1/3 up for election in November. I can not simply dismiss the possibility that congress is playing good cop / bad cop to the voter. Problem is at the end of the day something substantive will have to be done. The days of pulling wool over the voters eyes are past. There are far too many channels of information available to fool the voter en mass.

It is nut crackin' time and congress knows it.

 

[longeyes]

Let's hope what results is nothing like this Senatorial "compromise." It smells of an "all-nighter," frankly, full of sound and fury and subterfuge and desperation. No program that lacks long, sharp enforcement teeth has any meaning. For me most of what I'm seeing smacks of "Apres moi le deluge!" throw-up-your-hands-and-run tactics. These politicos know that they are greenlighting a massive--and UNWELCOME--cultural transformation of the United States. They know what they are doing is inimical to the will of the vast majority of the American people. They know but they push ahead anyway. Either they figure the tide won't roll over them or they are insane. Either way we'd better watch our behinds.

 

[ken grant]

BORDERS

Control our Borders now!!!!!!!!!! Without this nothing will ever work.
Contact Congress now and let them know this.
Our Reps. are selling out the average working person in the USA

 

[ken grant]

RINO's

Our RINO's have sold us out.
They have been in total control of our Government for about 5 yrs and have let us all down and seem to not care.
Just as the Dem's left Zell Miller, the Repugs have left me.

 

[longeyes]

Control our borders? There's nothing in the Senate "compromise" bill about a wall, a fence, tighter borders, or increased funding for BP agents. A country without borders isn't a nation any more. We're going to have to face the reality that in just a few years we have had America ripped away from us. It's clear that Congres believes they can get away with just about anything.

"Before this country became emasculated, before this country lost its virility. an invasion of this scope would have never been allowed."

Tell that to the honchos at NBC who have zeroed in on the "NASCAR" sub-population as the real threat to American values. I think we all know what's afoot here.