Illegal sale of firearms and magazines what would you do

[stillquietvoice]

As the title states, if you see illegal sales, or possible illegal sales, would you report it or let it go. Givin the potential for great harm to people. Caused by an inelligible person obtaining a firearm. Ar 15 and standard cap mags obtained illegally. I'm in NY a state with mag cap limits of 10, just passing a standard mag could result in jail time.

The situation is. I was at a local flea market, vendor had 30 to mags and a complete Sr 15 for sale on his table, no ffl displayed or 4473 forms and no way of conducting the standard bc check. The venue is in a location where crime rate is fairly high, also accessed town there was an active shooter, and that are was locked down for most of the day.

This rampant disregard of, not only local and state laws, but federal law as well. My wife called me an idiot cause I reported the activity to local law enforcement.

So my question what would you do is important also am I really an idiot for not just letting it go

 

[CopperClad]

Maybe the seller is atf fishing for a bust?

 

[Glockpride]

MYOB!

Snitches get stitches….



On 2nd thought, why don’t you go the spoon section at Walmart and phone the fat police. Because, you know, spoons make people fat and die from diabeetus. <l(RIP Brimley).

 

[wiscoaster]

I think there's a huge difference between a firearm in the possession of a federally prohibited person and a magazine that a state defines as (unconstitutionally) illegal in the possession of an otherwise law-abiding person, and if you can't tell the difference then best do nothing.

 

[DeepSouth]

I’d assume he knows what he’s doing and nod as I walk by.

 

[Rubone]

I might have more of an opinion if the original post was even readable and had a bit of continuity. Remember, spellcheck is not your friend.
As to your conundrum, that is a personal call. If your wife doesn't agree with it, it is because she has her own thoughts on it. (fear, repercussions, indifference, who knows). If it bugged you enough to jump in, then just own it and live with it. No one else is YOU, so do not expect anyone to think the same or not!

 

[W.E.G.]

Listen to your wife OP.

 

[Archie]

Do the right thing.
If you consider covering up for a friend or associate or total stranger or total stranger about whom one has doubts, to be the right thing, okay.
If you consider being subject to the law and living so the majority do not have to live in real fear (not just doubt about freedom) to be the right thing, okay to that too.

No, not always an easy choice.

 

[stillquietvoice]

Maybe the seller is atf fishing for a bust?

The thought did cross my mind one really can't tell.

I think there's a huge difference between a firearm in the possession of a federally prohibited person and a magazine that a state defines as (unconstitutionally) illegal in the possession of an otherwise law-abiding person, and if you can't tell the difference then best do nothing.

I agree there is a difference. I don't agree with the, illegal state laws either, but I do gave to follow my gut instinct, it's not usually wrong.

 

[Wyo82]

OP can you edit / clean up your post to clarify what is going on? It’s disjointed to try and read let alone give an opinion.

 

[theotherwaldo]

My suggestion?
Move to Texas or any of the other states where they don't unconstitutionally limit the size of your magazines or what other legal personal possessions you can sell to a fellow law-abiding citizen.
Then you won't have to be shocked by displays of firearms or magazines that happen to be for sale... .

 

[Sniper66]

This is a silly post. The incoherent question renders an answer impossible.

 

[1-cavediver]

How do you know POSITIVELY that a crime is being committed? You don’t!!
Mind your own business!!

 

[DustyGmt]

Am I to assume the seller had 40- 20rd or 30rd Stanags, or a 40rd mag for an AR15? It sounds like there was a seller with an AR15 and a standard capacity magazine with greater than 10rd capacity and your quandary is whether or not you should have just kept walking or reported it? Sorry, I'm not the grammar police and don't want to bust your chops but the OP is a lil hard to understand.

I would probably just keep walking...... I don't think I'd report anything unless I saw a threat or felt there was an imminent threat, I generally like to keep to myself and especially if the wife said to let it go, I'd have probably let it go.

 

[bdickens]

https://www.atf.gov/careers

 

[MutinousDoug]

As the title states, if you see illegal sales, or possible illegal sales, would you report it or let it go. Givin the potential for great harm to people. Caused by an inelligible person obtaining a firearm. Ar 15 and standard cap mags obtained illegally. I'm in NY a state with mag cap limits of 10, just passing a standard mag could result in jail time.

The situation is. I was at a local flea market, vendor had 40 to nags and a complete Sr 15 for sale on his table, no fgl displayed or 4473 forms and no way of conducting the standard bc check. The venue is in a location where crime rate is fairly high, also accessed town there was an active shooter, and that are was locked down for most of the day.

This rampant disregard of, not only local and state laws, but federal law as well. My wife called me an idiot cause I reported the activity to local law enforcement.

So my question what would you do is important also am I really an idiot for not just letting it go

If I see illegal sales and I find the laws regarding illegal sales constitutional, then I may report the activity.
I can't figure out what a "40 to nags" or "fgl" or a "bc" check is but if I recognize local and/or fed laws disregarded and I personally find those laws to be constitutional, I would report those violations.
Suit yourself. You are under no obligation to report or intervene. On the other hand, know the laws you determine/imagine are being violated and don't be an ass.

 

[Demi-human]

I write down the license plate of every speeder that goes by me and report them to the police. Everyday.
I’m sure they appreciate it. I mean, it’s for the safety of the community, right?

It sure is a long list when I have to hit the highway…

Of course, non-violent, non-compliance resistance to tyranny doesn’t work when your neighbor or in-laws are fearful enough to turn you in.

So, which was it? Did you turn in Al Capone to the Feds?
Or a Jew to the Gestapo?

Did you stop a gang ba, that’s not sounding right, gang member shooting? Or is Gramps having Christmas alone this year, in the klink, 3 luke warms and a cot?

I am just busting your chops,@stillquietvoice. Playfully, of course. Because of your handle.


Like anything, it depends. It was that situation at that time with those actors. We didn’t see it. You saw it. You though it wasn’t right. And you did something about it. That’s commendable.


“For evil to grow all that is needed is for Good Men to do, nothing…”

Also, there is no harm in self evaluation, nor peer review. Carry on.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

The magazine could have been blocked for 10 rd for all I know. Or the guy might be ignorant of the law.

On the other hand, back in the 1980s the Company out of Lexington KY led by Drew Thornton were bringing in cocaine and MAC-10 clone submachine guns from South America. Decades later there was later a whole season on Justified based on the premise "Drew Thompson" survived his infamous parachute jump with a duffle bag of cocaine and Krugerands and a fall guy had taken his place, involuntarily. When you're dealling with that level of contraband, snitches would not need snitches because they would be deceased.

... if you see illegal sales, or possible illegal sales, would you report it or let it go ...

If I made the determination it was someone at a flea market selling something that they had no use for, and they were totally in ignorance of the law, I might feel compelled to let them know what the law was, and that they'd be better off disposing of the gun through an FFL who would know the law.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

It would not be my concern. Plus flea markets don't require a background check for long guns and accessories. In Pa at least they don't.

 

[LAFWI]

https://www.atf.gov/careers

Yuo wni! (In the spirit of OP)

 

[230RN]

If I knew for a fact that would hold up in court that an illegal activity was occurring, I'd be obligated to report it. Or, in some cases (murder, rape, kidnaping, e.g.), even attempt to stop it. Note I said "fact" and "hold up in court."

But my brother (who was a bit older and much more street-wise) and I once heard a ruckus and I wanted to go see what was happening. He told me "Sometimes it's a good time to be tying your shoes."

Took me a while to "get" that, and we talked about some of the reasons to not see anything --the "sometimes."

Terry, 230RN

 

[stillquietvoice]

If I see illegal sales and I find the laws regarding illegal sales constitutional, then I may report the activity.

I don't see any of those ny laws constitutional, unconstitutional, illegal laws should be ignored, fought in any way possible.

I am just busting your chops,@stillquietvoice. Playfully, of course. Because of your handle.

It's OK I guess I opened myself up to that, sometimes we need to laugh at ourselves.

My suggestion?
Move to Texas or any of the other states where they don't unconstitutionally limit the size of your magazines or what other legal personal possessions you can sell to a fellow law-abiding citizen.
Then you won't have to be shocked by displays of firearms or magazines that happen to be for sale... .

Moving isn't an option, for a number of reasons, an important one is that I want to my grandchildren grow up and know them.

I wasn't shocked to see an AR 15 on a table for sale standard cap mags either for that matter. I own arms myself no standard cap magazines yet. There was something wrong.

 

[Zerodefect]

Sounds perfectly legal to me.

To heck with NY's laws. They're one of the most corrupt states out there. I'm not sticking my neck out for some Stazi nonsense.

There's nothing wrong with standard cap mags and AR15's. Freedom isnt safe.

 

[rust collector]

You were behaving as the media enterprises, anti-gun organizations and many politicians intended.
We do have an obligation to report felonies and hazards we observe (If you see something, say something) but we also have read about the efforts in prewar Germany and Russia to get people to turn in folks who got in the way of the government. There may have been extenuating circumstances. Did you consider conversing with the seller to see why that sale would not run afoul of the laws prohibiting possession/sale? It would be unusual for someone engaged in nefarious activity to openly attempt to sell the gun, so I would have been curious what the back story was.
You have asked if we think you are an idiot for not letting it go. No, I do not think you are an idiot. Yes, I wish you would have gotten more information before you called the authorities on someone. If they found the stuff in their son's room after he died or dropped out off the face of the earth, you might have saved an ignorant person from a felony conviction. Still, we are all responsible for our own actions.

 

[kidneyboy]

As the title states, if you see illegal sales, or possible illegal sales, would you report it or let it go. Givin the potential for great harm to people. Caused by an inelligible person obtaining a firearm. Ar 15 and standard cap mags obtained illegally. I'm in NY a state with mag cap limits of 10, just passing a standard mag could result in jail time.

The situation is. I was at a local flea market, vendor had 30 to mags and a complete Sr 15 for sale on his table, no ffl displayed or 4473 forms and no way of conducting the standard bc check. The venue is in a location where crime rate is fairly high, also accessed town there was an active shooter, and that are was locked down for most of the day.

This rampant disregard of, not only local and state laws, but federal law as well. My wife called me an idiot cause I reported the activity to local law enforcement.

So my question what would you do is important also am I really an idiot for not just letting it go

A lot of assumptions here. Not a good way to make decisions.