Illinois Supreme Court Rules on Diggins case

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This is from the ISRA website.

http://isra.org/alerts/alert_10092009_diggins.shtml

What's the ISRA done for me this week?


On 8 October 2009, the Illinois Supreme Court issued a unanimous opinion on the People v. Diggins case.

Because this matter concerned an interpretation of how a firearm can be transported legally within Illinois, the ISRA felt it was important that certain points be brought before the court in order to clarify the legislatures' intent at the time the law was debated.

With the ISRA's knowledge of the legislative history pertaining to this part of the Criminal Code, ISRA's attorney, Victor D. Quilici filed an Amicus Brief, (friend of the court), with the above purpose in mind.

The ISRA is pleased with the Court's decision which we feel is in line with the legislature's original intent.

Thanks especially go out to Tiffany Ritchie Esq. of the Schrier & Ritchie law firm in Peoria, Illinois who handled the case and its arguments including the oral argument before the Supreme Court. Tiffany did a spectacular job in her briefs and arguments and we were very happy to be associated in her case.

For a more technical analysis of the decision, please see below.

Commentary about the IL Supreme Court Decision People v. Diggins
from ISRA Attorney Victor Quilici

In a unanimous opinion by the Illinois Supreme Court in People v. Diggins No. 106367, the Court has held: "Section 24-1.6{c}{iii} of the Criminal Code of 1961 provides that a person is not guilty of aggravated unlawful use of a weapon if that weapon is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card.' 720 ILCS 5/24-1.6{c}{iii} (West 2006).

In the case at bar, we are asked to determine whether the center console of a vehicle is a 'case' within the meaning of this provision. . .[W]e conclude that it is." An Amicus Brief (Friend of the Court) was filed by ISRA attorney Victor D. Quilici. The principal object of the brief was to thwart the argument by the State regarding legislative intent. Other arguments in the amicus brief addressed matters pertaining to the split decisions in the various districts in Illinois.

Also, ISRA' amicus agreed with the Appellate Court's opinion that the plain meaning of the Statute did not mean a "case" or "other container" had to be portable, as a leading case relied on by the State had held.

The Supreme Court has clearly held that the center console in a motor vehicle is a "case" within the meaning of section 24-1.6(c)(iii). That section contains the exemption language regarding transportation of firearms. The Supreme Court found that the term "case" in the cited statutory section includes any portable or non-portable receptacle and need not be interpreted solely to firearms.

Thus, the Supreme Court also rejected the State's contention that the meaning of the language was to be interpreted in light of the Wildlife code definition of "case" which would limit it to a "firearm case" that is portable. The Court made it clear that it did not need to rely on legislative intent and that the answer was in the plain meaning of the statute. The Court ordered the case to be remanded --that is, in this case sending it back to retry on factual matter. The Supreme Court is asking that a new trial be held to determine the question of whether or not the center console was "enclosed" and by that the Court is sayings the center console must be closed.

The Supreme Court points out that in the initial trial of the case, the Defendant, Diggins, and his passenger alleged that the center console was "closed "(actually testifying it was also locked) and the police officer testified that the console was "ajar." Therefore, that issue of whether or not the center console was closed still would be viable and one to be tried by the jury upon remand of the case for further proceedings.

Regardless of the outcome of the case upon re-trial, the decision of the Supreme Court that a center console is a "case" within the meaning of the statute's exemption language is clear and unequivocal ISRA counsel notes that the major credit should go to Tiffany Ritchie of the Schrier & Ritchie law firm in Peoria, Illinois, that handled the case in the trial court on up, especially attorney Tiffany Ritchie, who delivered a great argument before the Supreme Court.


Special Note from the ISRA Webmaster:
This analysis of this court case, People v Diggins, is not to be construed as legal advice. Please consult with your own attorney for such advice.

Does this mean a gun can be carried in the glove compartment or center console inside the car, as long as the chamber is empty and a loaded magazine is not inserted in the grip?

I'm a resident of Illinois and wanted to get some clarification on this.
 
Yes, this is what it means.

However, there is some debate on multiple forums about opening that center console when you are pulled over. Some people are in the camp that once you open that console in the presence of LEO that it is no longer "enclosed" and you would be in violation of the law.

If you decide to transport this way, I would carry License, insurance, and registration somewhere besides the center console.

You can find a detailed discussion of this matter on www.Illinoiscarry.com
 
Does this mean a gun can be carried in the glove compartment or center console inside the car, as long as the chamber is empty and a loaded magazine is not inserted in the grip?
Notice - IANAL.

It means that the Supreme Court of Illinois says that its not UUW.

There is still the issue of what the wildlife code says, and it prohibits guns in vehicles that are not in gun cases, and goes on to define what an acceptable gun case is. Class B misdemeanor WC violation instead of felony UUW.

Legally you can put your unloaded gun in a gun sock and tie it off and set it on the seat next to you. Or put the unloaded gun in the tied off gun sock in your console. For that matter you could put the unloaded gun in a tied off gun sock in your pocket, or duct taped to your forehead.

You also have to remember there is the prohibition on bringing certain weapons (including firearms) to publicly owned or supported places. Class A misdemeanor. Think public parking lot, or driving through a park, or dropping your kid off at school.
 
How does this law apply to an out of state resident with a valid Concealed license from another state when driving through illinois.

Can he have an unloaded gun in the console without a problem?
Does this also apply when driving through chicago?
 
How does this law apply to an out of state resident with a valid Concealed license from another state when driving through illinois.

The only difference between Illinois residents and non-residents is that non-residents are not required to have a FOID card. Your carry license has zero effect in Illinois.

Can he have an unloaded gun in the console without a problem?

Define "problem". Is being arrested, tried and ultimately aquitted in a few years a "problem" for you?

Does this also apply when driving through chicago?

Enter Chicago at your own risk.
 
Thank you for your responses. I'll probably continue to transport my guns unloaded, cased and in a range bag stored in the rear compartment of my vehicle, just ot be on the safe side.

You can find a detailed discussion of this matter on www.Illinoiscarry.com

Thanks for the link. It looks like great site for Illinois gun owners. While visiting,
I found this link to a CBS news segment regarding this ruling.

http://cbs2chicago.com/video/[email protected]
 
The only difference between Illinois residents and non-residents is that non-residents are not required to have a FOID card. Your carry license has zero effect in Illinois.



Define "problem". Is being arrested, tried and ultimately aquitted in a few years a "problem" for you?



Enter Chicago at your own risk.
While few cops would worry all that much about an unloaded and encased gun, the letter of the law is slightly different for out of staters because they cannot get a FOID card.

The basic exceptions to the UUW act provisions prohibiting carrying firearms are these.

(i) are broken down in a non‑functioning state; or
(ii) are not immediately accessible; or
(iii) are unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's identification Card.

As a non-resident who does not have a FOID, you cannot rely on exception (iii). You have to rely on (i) or (ii).

And keep in mind the wildlife code restrictions that require a gun in a car to be unloaded and in a GUN case (as defined by the WC).

And Chicago is a wildcard in the whole mess due to their handgun ban, and the nature of their police force.
 
That video clip is nauseating. They don't mention that forms of concealed carry is allowed in 48 other states and has not caused "blood to run in the streets".
 
I really think the legality of opening the container with the gun in the presence of a police officer who has just pulled you over for speeding is a non-issue. It's a bad idea on a practical level anyway. What would be the point of doing that in the first place? I imagine that if you did such a thing, you'd run a substantial risk of getting hauled out of your vehicle at gunpoint, and the legal intricacies would be the last thing on your mind (but yes, if you open the container, it's no longer "enclosed" and so technically would be illegal.)

If you were going to transport a handgun in your console, it would be very smart to keep any documents you might need for a traffic stop, such as registration and insurance proof, in a different container. For instance, in my car, I have a large glove box and a small console. I would put the insurance documents in the small, non-locking center console, and the handgun in the large, locking glove box. That way, when the officer asks me to get my documents, I can open the console without worrying about what to say about the gun in there. The glove box can stay closed and we can all go about our business without scaring each other to death.
 
I know of an Illinois game warden who would examine cased guns.

If any part of the gun was visible for any reason, a ticket was issued.
 
It seems that this type of carry situation just needs to be used with common sense. One potential problem of not having a complete concealed carry law is having to leave the weapon in the car. The potential for theft increases since you can't take it with you.
 
I really think the legality of opening the container with the gun in the presence of a police officer who has just pulled you over for speeding is a non-issue. It's a bad idea on a practical level anyway.
Agreed. But even if you were dumb enough to keep the documents in the same location as your gun, you should at least have enough sense to fish those documents out as soon as you are pulled over and reclose the container before the officer walks up to your vehicle. Also, in Illinois the only documents that I've ever seen asked for by a police officer are driver's licenses and insurance card. Keep both of those in your wallet and never worry about it.
 
You also have to remember there is the prohibition on bringing certain weapons (including firearms) to publicly owned or supported places. Class A misdemeanor. Think public parking lot, or driving through a park, or dropping your kid off at school.

Actually, Section 24-1 (c) of the IL gun laws makes the school thing a felony.

The good news is that if you have a FOID card and the unloaded gun is in a case, then you have not broken any part of this statute. This entire law is convoluted, but at each stage they have written in the part about a unloaded gun in a case, possessed by the holder of a FOID card.

Sec. 24-2. Exemptions. (i) Nothing in this Article shall prohibit, apply to, or affect the transportation, carrying, or possession, of any pistol or revolver, stun gun, taser, or other firearm consigned to a common carrier operating under license of the State of Illinois or the federal government, where such transportation, carrying, or possession is incident to the lawful transportation in which such common carrier is engaged; and nothing in this Article shall prohibit, apply to, or effect the transportation, carrying, or possession of any pistol, revolver, stun gun, taser, or other firearm, not the subject of and regulated by subsection 24-1(a)(7) or subsection 24-2(c) of this Article, which is unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container, by the possessor of a valid Firearm Owners Identification Card.
 
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