I'm literally going crazy with LRPS. Please Help.

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LoonWulf said:
So you ARE using a 16mm to pic conversion rail!
I didn't know that.
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I think he is stuck with that because of the 34mm tube of the Venom, but not 100% sure. It is a lot of scope for this rifle, but to each their own.

No offense, but I would not let these guys anywhere near my rifle again. My recommendation would be to take this opportunity to buy a set of Wheeler (or similar) screwdriver bits and a good torque screwdriver, then learn to do things like mount your own scope, adjust trigger, strip the rifle down for detail cleaning, etc. There are plenty of operations that are better left to professionals like truing an action or replacing a barrel, but you will be much happier in the long run if you get the proper tools and learn to do the basic stuff on your own. A poorly mounted scope or action that isn't settled properly into the stock is a problem that should be easily diagnosed and repaired at the bench without the need for a return trip to Sportsman's Warehouse.
 
MR WICK said:
What happened is the Picitanny to Weaver was way too tight on some of the screws and not tight enough on the other screws. They said it shaved off the contact point of where the picitanny meets the weaver. No damage done to my rifle at all. Thankfully
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And it strikes again. The two systems just don't play nice together over hald the time. Plus it's just not a good idea to use the pic rail conversions in the first place. Bases should be attached to the rifle, not to another set of bases. They designs generally do not work well and introduce stacking tolerances. If you want a rail, get one with matching rings and have it mounted direct to the rifle. Unfortunately I went through this a couple times myself years ago and have seen it in person dozens of times since then plus gobs online. Best optics in the world cannot overcome shoddy installation.
 
illinoisburt said:
And it strikes again. The two systems just don't play nice together over hald the time. Plus it's just not a good idea to use the pic rail conversions in the first place. Bases should be attached to the rifle, not to another set of bases. They designs generally do not work well and introduce stacking tolerances. If you want a rail, get one with matching rings and have it mounted direct to the rifle. Unfortunately I went through this a couple times myself years ago and have seen it in person dozens of times since then plus gobs online. Best optics in the world cannot overcome shoddy installation.
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His rifle is a CZ 527 with an integrated 18mm dovetail.....there ARE 34MM ring options but they arnt common, so as @high country said, hes stuck with the DIP conversion, or whatever conversion, hes using.

Id actually forgotten about the thread where we all talked about scoping that gun.
 
LoonWulf said:
His rifle is a CZ 527 with an integrated 18mm dovetail.....there ARE 34MM ring options but they arnt common, so as @high country said, hes stuck with the DIP conversion, or whatever conversion, hes using.

Id actually forgotten about the thread where we all talked about scoping that gun.
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Good to know that such a thing exists, thanks LoonWolf. I poked around looking and nothing jumped out at me, but you have far more knowledge on the scope options for these rifles.

Even if available, I would expect it to be rare since a larger (and generally heavier) 34mm tube tactical/precision scope on a cz527 isn't likely to be a common combination. Other than the Vortex, most other options in that tube size are several times the value of the CZ.

Seems like going down to a nice 30mm scope with good rings would be a better approach, if it is still an option at this point.
 
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MR WICK said:
Huh?
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When someone asks (repeatedly, as many of us have in your threads) which ammunition you are shooting, the answer “223 Remington” doesn’t answer the question. The question is asking, what brand, model, bullet type, and bullet weight you are shooting.

For example, in one thread you answered that you were shooting Freedom Munitions ammo - but then subsequently would not answer when we asked AGAIN, “which Freedom Munitions ammo?” Even that one manufacturer makes several models and bullet types of ammo, all of which will be expected to perform differently. Their 55grn ball ammo is basically awful, as they all are, and might be praised if it shoots 2MOA in your rifle, and in some rifles like that Springfield Saint, we might not be surprised by 3-4MOA performance. Whereas alternatively, their 77SMK load can reasonably be expected to shoot 1MOA or better. A Hornady 55 Vmax load would be expected to shoot better than a 55grn FMJ load…

So what you are shooting - very specifically - matters considerably when we are trying to help. But when we ask and ask and ask in your threads and either get no response or a non-response of only partial info, it’s not reasonable for you to expect help - we simply can’t.
 
Varminterror said:
When someone asks (repeatedly, as many of us have in your threads) which ammunition you are shooting, the answer “223 Remington” doesn’t answer the question. The question is asking, what brand, model, bullet type, and bullet weight you are shooting.

For example, in one thread you answered that you were shooting Freedom Munitions ammo - but then subsequently would not answer when we asked AGAIN, “which Freedom Munitions ammo?” Even that one manufacturer makes several models and bullet types of ammo, all of which will be expected to perform differently. Their 55grn ball ammo is basically awful, as they all are, and might be praised if it shoots 2MOA in your rifle, and in some rifles like that Springfield Saint, we might not be surprised by 3-4MOA performance. Whereas alternatively, their 77SMK load can reasonably be expected to shoot 1MOA or better. A Hornady 55 Vmax load would be expected to shoot better than a 55grn FMJ load…

So what you are shooting - very specifically - matters considerably when we are trying to help. But when we ask and ask and ask in your threads and either get no response or a non-response of only partial info, it’s not reasonable for you to expect help - we simply can’t.
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Thank you for that. I didn't realize I was being so vague. Ill attach a picture.
 
Here is my ammo. I did a ton of research and talked to top shooters at my club and they all said that Freedom Munitions, Remington 223, 55 grain reloads, were high quality rounds. Not Match Grade of course.

The second is Igman. Never heard of it but was told it's a decent round.
 
Most of us are looking for specific information vs general.

55 grain .223 Remington Freedom Munitions could be this.

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Or it could be this.

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They will shoot in the same gun, different results would be expected.

If you are shooting the top one, try the bottom one.

The details we are looking for are inside the umbrella of .223 Remington, specifically what projectile is being propelled.

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When you go back to take a look, open a box and take a photo of the head stamp(s), so we know what we are dealing with. Like this.

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We generally don’t ask a lot of out of mixed brass/FMJ’s, as far as precision goes. So you may be doing great and not even know it.
 
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MR WICK said:
Here is my ammo. I did a ton of research and talked to top shooters at my club and they all said that Freedom Munitions, Remington 223, 55 grain reloads, were high quality rounds. Not Match Grade of course.

The second is Igman. Never heard of it but was told it's a decent round.
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Which 55 Gr bullet FM ammo?

Which Igman ammo? What bullet do they use?

It shouldn’t be this complicated.
 
jmorris said:
Most of us are looking for specific information vs general.

55 grain .223 Remington Freedom Munitions could be this.

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Or it could be this.

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They will shoot in the same gun, different results would be expected.

If you are shooting the top one, try the bottom one.

The details we are looking for are inside the umbrella of .223 Remington, specifically what projectile is being propelled.

View attachment 1055386

When you go back to take a look, open a box and take a photo of the head stamp(s), so we know what we are dealing with. Like this.

View attachment 1055392

We generally don’t ask a lot of out of mixed brass/FMJ’s, as far as precision goes. So you may be doing great and not even know it.
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The top picture.

I understand now. I am a beginner and sometimes may not list everything. That's why I'm here. To learn.
 
MR WICK said:
Here is my ammo. I did a ton of research and talked to top shooters at my club and they all said that Freedom Munitions, Remington 223, 55 grain reloads, were high quality rounds. Not Match Grade of course.

The second is Igman. Never heard of it but was told it's a decent round.
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I make 99% of my own ammo but from what I have read, Freedom has a reputation of making decent ammo that will go bang. There were some batches that got out that were very hot and damaged some guns but that was a while ago.

Like mentioned, full metal jacket ammo is not known for the best accuracy. Looking at your 200 yard groups, what I see would be typical of that ammo.
 
MarshallDodge said:
I make 99% of my own ammo but from what I have read, Freedom has a reputation of making decent ammo that will go bang. There were some batches that got out that were very hot and damaged some guns but that was a while ago.

Like mentioned, full metal jacket ammo is not known for the best accuracy. Looking at your 200 yard groups, what I see would be typical of that ammo.
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Do you think if I had match grade ammo it would be tighter?
 
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