I'm literally going crazy with LRPS. Please Help.

[jmorris]

The top picture.

I understand now. I am a beginner and sometimes may not list everything. That's why I'm here. To learn.

To help and learn are the only reasons most of us are here.

OK, we know we are dealing with FMJ’s.

Now, how about that photo of the headstamp(s) you see when you open a box of them?

 

[high country]

You would likely have better luck with better ammo, 55gr "reman" (mixed brass) is pretty much the bottom of the heap consistency wise. My CZ shoots closer to 2 or even 3 moa with my mixed brass generic 55gr fmj reloads.

I'm not sure what the dimensions are of the targets you are posting, so not exactly sure how those groups are size wise. But to keep it in perspective, you are also shooting these through a 16.5" Sporter profile barrel, with a flexible plastic stock that may or not be allowing the barrel to float properly. My CZ had that same stock, it is ok, but definitely flexy and mine was really close to the barrel on one side. I opened up the barrel channel some, and bedded an aluminum tube in the forend to stiffen it up. It was not worth the effort, and I ultimately just picked up a walnut takeoff and bedded the action into that one.

Tightening it up is as simple, or complicated, as reducing variables. The shooter is generally the biggest variable (especially in my case most days...). But you would do well to pick up good match grade ammo in several weights and try to find something your rifle favors.

That all assumes that you have checked the stock for proper installation/floating, got the trigger weight adjusted to a decent pull and/or are using the set trigger function, and the guys at sportsman's warehouse managed to get your scope mounted correctly this time.

The cz527 is one of my personal favorites, definitely want to see you be successful in your effort to get it to shoot the way you want it to. Just make sure that you are reading the advice you are getting carefully and when you answer a question, provide as much info as possible.

 

[Walkalong]

Do you think if I had match grade ammo it would be tighter?

Absolutely, 55 Gr FMJ runs from decent to crap. Any decent ammo loaded with any decent hollow point., soft point, or plastic tipped bullet should easily out shoot 55 Gr FMJ.

 

[courtgreene]

I know that when we try to help with little detail it can be frustrating, but when I read the OP’s responses I see myself 16 years ago. I had to learn somewhere. I didn’t know what a minute of angle or a soft point was. I picked hunting ammo based on which had a picture of the animal I was hunting on the box.

it’s true that I reload and do my own gunsmithing (unless the required tools are not worth buying for one project) NOW, but I certainly had to learn all of that over time. I can’t speak for anyone but me, but I hope we can cut the guy some slack. A little patience and understanding and walking in the shoes of others and all.

Having said that let me add two things: first, I think y’all are a great group and I’m not lecturing you. Heck I depend on this place for knowledge and inspiration. Second, to the OP, I suggest you buy a fairly cheap project gun. Mine was a rusty marlin model 60 that I grabbed for 50 dollars at a gun show. Take it down to nothing but parts, clean it, strip it, blue it, scope it with a cheap (but still useable, like a bushnell banner or something) scope. Get a kit and replace the trigger springs. Doing a project like this gives you an expendable subject to learn on with low risk. More importantly it offers you experiential knowledge, teaches you the terminology people like us ask for on forums, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, gives you confidence. You don’t have to rely on guys behind the counter when you can do it yourself.

It also gives you some pride. That model 60 looks and shoots great. Best shot was a 40 yd headshot on a squirrel.

could be a 10/22, a 795, a bolt action… whatever is cheap and in need of tlc but has readily available parts.

 

[MR WICK]

Thank you to everyone. I truly value all of your inputs. And they have an been great.

 

[351 WINCHESTER]

My money is on the scope being bad. Swap it out for another.

 

[MR WICK]

I run a Las Vegas gun club. Today I met with a member. An ex Army Ranger Sniper. I learned more in an hour and a half then I've learned in months. His name is Trent and I illustrated my groupings from yesterday compared to my groupings today. I'm blown away.

 

[rayatphonix]

Good for you. Glad to see you’re doing better.

 

[MR WICK]

Good for you. Glad to see you’re doing better.

Thanks. It's Night and day.

 

[Walkalong]

That's awesome.

 

[sarduy]

Thank you to everyone.

@MR WICK

here is a video that you should watch. It will teach you everything you need to know about mounting scopes.

 

[berettaprofessor]

Next time could we please not use acronyms that aren't universally familiar? I assume LRPS is "Long-range-precision-scope", but the Acronym finder lists "Land Rover Parts Shop" and "Live Role Playing Society" higher: https://www.acronymfinder.com/LRPS.html

Sorry, I'm stupid or out of the loop on this one.

 

[JJFitch]

I run a Las Vegas gun club. Today I met with a member. An ex Army Ranger Sniper. I learned more in an hour and a half then I've learned in months. His name is Trent and I illustrated my groupings from yesterday compared to my groupings today. I'm blown away.

See Post #42! Reread it carfully!

Here we are at post #82!

Smiles,

 

[MR WICK]

I shot at 250 yards today after realizing my rifle is two-staged. I only know because I wanted a new trigger with a much softer pull. One of the guys in my group pointed it out to me. I went from a 3.5lb pull to a 1lb or a bit less pull.

This is me at 250 yards today. I can live with that on REMAN ammo.

Again. Thanks everyone.

 

[MR WICK]

Interesting that we are so focused on mechanical issues and keep rehashing the same obvious stuff.

As an instructor and coach my obvious observation goes beyond the mechanical.

You say that you shoot a lot. Are you doing the same exact thing with each and every shot fired? As soon as I see groups opening up I look for shooter technique and shooter fatigue. Relaxing grip, cheek weld and pull into shoulder can each and all open groups!

Having a "card carrying Expert" shoot your rifle will tell a lot. Have the Expert watch you shoot, you'll thank me later!

Smiles,

Yes. You were very right indeed. I needed that experienced second set of eyes even though I thought I was doing everything correctly.