In the wall safes?

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A friend was ripped off recently. I am doing a complete roof to basement home renovation. I am wondering about the built into the wall safes. I figure that I have the walls stripped to the studs and a safe would be an easy install at this ooint. Has anybody used or seen these installed in a house?
 
I've seen one in-wall, didn't note the brand. Impression was it went in just like a medicine-chest. Between studs, bolted to the studs. And no problem to put in a finished wall, providing the stud spacing allows and there is no wiring / plumbing in the way.
 
I had a friend of mine who put one in. I must have been through his house a dozen times and couldnt find the dang thing untill he pointed it out to me. Seems like a good idea to me since noone can even try to break into a safe that they cant find.
 
Just keep in mind that their security relies largely on secrecy. They aren't particularly strong safes, its just that they are hidden and overlooked.

You may also want to consider the fire protection aspect, as well as the fact that most of them aren't that big with the constraint being the depth of the wall.

They make floor safes as well . . . saw an add for another company that makes specialty hidden safes - hidden in the kick board of your kitchen cabinets, that kind of thing. Consider that option as well.
 
I think they are a good idea. One of my friend's fathers had his gun storage cabinet in the wall, underneath a flight of steps, behind a cabinet full of stuff. Unless you knew it was there it was completely hidden.
 
Secrecy is the key. The other is to try and put near metal sources normally found in construction. For a long time the BGs have used metal detectors to find valuables in homes. I had a few cutomers with safe boxes in floors , and walls safes and were ripped off. This is how they found them. Silverware hidden in closets, coin sets, guns...same trick with the detector.

In remodeling or new construction not a big deal to add "extra" duct, gas pipe and conduit that appears part of original design that throw detectors off.

No biggie to add a false floor or ceiling vent for air flow to aid in concealment. Or lets say "hypothetically" the hot water heater in garage is behind that pantry in the laundry room which "was" 54" deep and "now" is 36" deep. Detector is gonna hit the washer /dryer/ hot /water heater/ vent fan...not the hidden wall safe. ;)
 
Hmmm....would the chicken wire under the stucco on an exterior wall be enough to confuse a metal detector? I mean, if there were guns (immediately) on the other side, would a metal detector on the outside alert to them, or would the signature from the chicken wire be uniform?

Is there such a thing as magnetically shielded panels, sheets, etc.?
 
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