In the year 2020

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I'll retire, and do nothing but shoot off of my back porch.

Hi-points will be the gun to have.

In an effort to upgrade the military's weapons, the president signs an executive order stating that in order to eliminate current inventory soldiers may keep their issued arms with their commander's permission.

Approximately 0 rifles will actually be given out in this manner due to the CYA attitude of the modern officer core. :neener:

Music will get worse.

West California will have excellent year round fishing.

Beer will get better.

East California will be a popular diving attraction.

$50 automatic AKs will be sold at K-mart. $75 RPGs.

Ammo will cost $5,000 a round thanks to the "Chris Rock bill".

Senator Jdude will introduce the "3rd Amendment protection bill, and other purposes ** ", because millions of displaced hippies think they have a right to your spare bedrooms.

Bacon will be found healthy.

Tofu will be found to cause testicular and mammory cancer.

** The other purposes include worm farms and measuring the speed of ketchup. :neener:
 
Hopefully California and New York will take Chicago( Cook County ) with them. That way all the freedom loving peple of Illinois will be released from thier socialist stranglehold !!!!!!!!!!!!

FOID cards.......yeah, WHATEVER !!!!!!!!!
 
I'll Bite
1 Gas will be $10.00 a gallon
2 Diesel will be $13.00 a gallon
3 9mm - $2.00 a rd 40 - $3 a rd 45 - $4 a rd if ammo is legal
4 Hi-point will still suck
5 1911's will take a back seat in collecting circles to tactical polymer pistols
6 All semi auto rifles will need a tax stamp
7 Ammo sales will be regulated by the Federal government
8 Hunting will be banned in California
9 LEO might be disarmed like the British
10 Auto loading handguns will be regulated to 10rd or less mags
11 Hopefully Texas will be its own country
12 Federal Government will attempt to regulate the amount or type of food consumed daily and will ban certain foods to protect the people from obesity.
13 Everything will be socialized
14 Expect to pay 50%-70% tax on your income
15 CC will be outlawed

I could go on forever. Hopefully I will be wrong about everything but #11
 
Ok I'll bite:

1. 9mm vs 45 will still be going on regardless of whatever new cartridge is invented

2. 1911's will continue to keep gunsmiths employed by having more aftermarket parts than legos

3. CCW permits will be recognized nationwide

4. Ammunition will be so costly you can only shoot in self defense

5. Gas is so costly you can only shoot someone in your own house in self defense

6. Glocks will be overpriced because they are plastic and plastic is made of oil. Which will not be subsidized by the government

7. Hi points will be what they are designed for now: low income reliable shooters BUT prettier!

8. .223 will still be the military caliber because it has worked this long it can keep working

9. Independent politics will slowly be gaining influence because of the internet

10. Politicians will be scared because everyone that wants to, can carry a gun to their front door (if they walk to their house remember: gas is expensive)

11. I will be employed by a nuclear power plant because right now it is the best option

-Kitchen
 
We won't have microstamping or smart guns cuz everybody will be required to wear the new glasses which act as a computer monitor thru heads-up display. They will have gps and realtime video camera that will allow the gov't to know your exact location and see everything you see thus the built-in camera.

This way, they can tell if you shot anybody or bought dope.
 
The SC rules we are entitled to full auto's.
Brady gets a law suite that would make the tobacco companies blush.
CC is universally accepted.
W. and Chenney get hauled into court for wartime profitteering.
 
NOT MUCH CHANGE???

12 years go you couldn't buy 11 round magazines. 12 years before that you could buy a new machine gun. a lot can happen when you don't vote.

oh yeah, and this thread is hilarious and i have little to add.
 
I have a feeling we'll be a lot like Russia looking back on the Soviet Union today. We'll look back and wish we were back in the 'good old days'. Not because they were that good, but because they didn't suck as much.:(
 
1. I am going to be one helluva Curmudgeon in 12 more years.

2. Semi-Auto firearm bans will have been implemented, including handguns, rifle and shotguns.

3. Civilians will not be allowed to have firearm platforms, or calibers as issued or used by LEO or Miltary.

So there goes 45ACP, 9mm, 12 gauge, Beretta 391, Rem 11-87, 1100, 870, Mossberg 500 and 590, Glock, HK, ...ARs and .223

4. New appreciation for formerly old fashioned and antiquated firearms and calibers.

Black-Powder, in handguns, rifles and shotguns.
Single shot , O/U and SxS shotguns
20 gauge , 28 ga, and .410
Revolvers,(single action and double action) in .22, 32, .38spl, .357, .44 special, 45 Colt...


Not being pessimistic, just optimistic folks can totally screw up and focus so much on "gun" they will not spend time on Freedom, and RKBA.

History is a great teacher, if one pays attention.
One would be wise to learn from history , lest they repeat mistakes.
 
1. Nuclear war
2. collapse of govt
3. uprising of population
4. anarchy, starvation, and death
5. Nuclear winter
6. population reset
7. communistic lifestlye reversion
8. who knows?


...........Well I hope not:uhoh:
 
W. and Chenney get hauled into court for wartime profitteering.
I hope not. Cheney is supporting Heller in favor of limits on governmental powers over firearms! A guy who spent much of his life in politics, with lots of authority only hampered by limits on authority is in favor of limiting that authority to stay closer to the consititution.
He even is at odds with the rest of the administration on that decision.

You know if you were in power and knew everything that was going to end up happening in the nation you would set yourself up to benefit from it to, that does not mean you would make political decisions for that purpose.
The Clintons are now multi millionaires after being in position to exploit that same inside knowledge and contacts.

A lot of Cheney's career is based around the defense industry, so it is safe to say that is where he has the most knowledge and therefore where he would also apply himself in entrepreneurial endeavors.

Regardless of how you feel though about the guy, you have to be amazed he is willing to stick up for gun rights even at odds with his administration. A guy that could continue to have access to weapons anyways as one of the elite, is in favor of the common man's right to arms and is not just going with the flow on that decision.
 
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What won't change in twelve years?

1. NAFTA will be repealed when the United States is the one needing benefit from fair trade...

2. After finally admitting bankruptcy, the IMF restructures the American economy... after adopting certain UN provisions:

  • Ban virtually all firearms
  • No agricultural subsidies
  • Extremely limited military funding -- the right to defending your nation is not a nation's individual right, but a collective right, i.e., the UN
  • All tariffs are revoked, allowing significant amounts of imports from Europe and China and leaving no competitive domestic trade
  • Surrendering all budget adjustments for approval to an international body
  • And last but not least... a revision of the consititution to permit the stewardship of international councils to legislate on the U.S.'s behalf
Hey... that ain't science fiction... it's happening to many developing nations right now... and surprise, surprise, they ain't developing much...

I'm such a pessimist... here, there is a different path that we can take...

1. The government finally admits bankruptcy, the dollar is now officially worthless, the economy collapses, and civil war breaks out. Incidentally, the free states win:

And the South does rise again! Well, the Dakotas, Montana, Pennsylvania, Vermont, and New Hampshire, too. :)
 
... Prince Yamato will have a job in classical music, a SMART car, a Pomeranian, and a new manufacture AK-47 with "da switch". I will then drive my car into Canada thanks to the "Harper Act" which passed after Stephen Harper ripped Dalton McGinty's head off and said, "the hell with the liberal party! let's have reciprocity with the US! NDP you're next!" I will then have dinner with an aged Paul Martin (or his frozen body), while CCWing my Glock 26, which will still be in primo condition. When asked if I am carrying, I will say, "yes" and show them my NYC CCW permit. The next day, I will go to The Bay and buy a bunch of fur coats and drive back to my stock of full-autos in my NYC loft... yeah... that'll be the day :)
 
- People will share their "war stories" of the Great Zombie Invasion of '16.

Bah, that's all I've got for tonight. :p
 
12 years go you couldn't buy 11 round magazines. 12 years before that you could buy a new machine gun.

So in 12 years we will be able to buy new machine guns but will be limited to 10 round magazines....

My predictions:

1: 50 rds 9mm WWB $49.95
2: Someone will introduce the 9-forty - 9mm brass necked UP to .40 cal
3: The wildcat varmint round to shoot will be the .17-06
4: "ray guns" will still be experimental
5: California will have gone nowhere, and I mean it will have gone nowhere.
6: The 2A argument will be about what a "Militia Weapon" really means. "In '34 it couldn't have meant the same as we think it means now - that was like soo long ago"
7: CMP will be selling M16s returned from Vietnam- the ones that weren't ground up in the crusher.
 
By the year 2020:

1. I'll be retired for 5 years.
2. I will have moved to a place that is gun-friendly.
3. I will have built my own range on my own property.
4. I will have stockpiled lots of ammo.
5. I will have bought several more black rifles.
6. I will have bought hundreds of "real" magazines for all of my guns.

But, alas there will have been four presidential elections between now and then, so...

In the year 2020:

1. I'll have retired 5 years previous.
2. The gun-friendly place I moved to will not be gun-friendly anymore.
3. The range I had built will have been shut done by the EPA.
4. The ammo I stockpiled will have been banned because it contains lead or some other dumb reason.
5. The black rifles I owned are all banned- no grandfather clause.
6. All magazines that hold more than three rounds were banned- again no clause.
7. A poorly written ban on guns of .50 cal or more was passed and shotguns of more than 410ga and black powder guns of 50 cal and above are also banned.
8. I spend a lot of time regaling my grandkids about the good old gun days, but they think I’m telling tall tales.


Okay, I'm not really that paranoid, but there are times I read the news and have nightmares. :(
 
What a bunch of pessimists!

My forecast....

1911s will be popular, but the obsession with them will have waned after the 2011 centennial.

Gun bans will have been ruled unconstutitional. Section 922(o) likewise.

There will be a machinegun manufacturing excise tax of $2,500.

There will be nationwide CCW.

You will be able to buy replica 1903 Springfields.

The squeeze-cocking action of the HK P7 will make a comeback.

Pistols will be available with flip-up optical sights integrated into the gun.
 
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