Inherited Handgun-is it legal

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Good Luck!
As I stated before, some States honor verbal bequeathments, some don't.
If MIL is executor, maybe. If there is no will (intestate) there is a pretty strict formula as to who gets what. (It varies by State) The executor appointed by the probate judge is tasked with following the State laws.
Son-in-Law doesn't really come into the picture last time I looked.
 
zxcvbob said:
...Y'all should make sure the gun passes from the estate directly to you ("intestate") and not to MIL first. That's pretty easy to do.
Nope, it doesn't work that way at all.

[1] Intestate succession is not some informal dividing up of the decedent's property amongst the relatives. It's a highly formalized procedure.

[2] First, someone has to go to the proper court and apply to be named the administrator of the decedent's estate.

[3] Once the court has issued an order designating someone as the administrator, that person proceeds to a account for the assets of the estate. He or she then uses those assets to pay any remaining debts of the decedent and any taxes due. This is all done under the supervision of the court.

[4] After the debts and taxes are paid, the administrator, under court supervision, will distribute any remaining assets to those relatives entitled under the applicable statutes to a share of the estate. Only those relatives specifically identified in the applicable statutes are entitled to a share of the decedent's property, and only in the proportion set out in the applicable statutes.

[5] Under Alabama law, the surviving spouse shares in the estate as set out in Section 43-8-41 (http://www.legislature.state.al.us/CodeofAlabama/1975/43-8-41.htm). Those other relatives described in Section 43-8-42 (http://www.legislature.state.al.us/CodeofAlabama/1975/43-8-42.htm) share as set out in that statute.

[6] Under Alabama law, in-laws don't get anything by intestate succession.

[7] Often, if there's not a lot of property involved, the relatives don't bother with the formalities and just divide everything up. That usually works out as long as no one complains. But that is not intestate succession.

[8] zxcvbob, as you pointed out in post 11, you are not a lawyer.

zxcvbob said:
The estate is handled pretty much however the executor says it is handled unless the family contests something. (insert obligatory "IANAL")

....If MIL is the executor, that should be good enough right there. If not, the executor should honor the request and see that they go to you. You may or may not get anything else. ...
Nope, wrong again.

[1] There is no executor unless there is a written will.

[2] The will designates who should be the executor, but that person is not the executor unless and until the will is admitted to probate in the proper court and the court issues Letters Testamentary recognizing that person as executor.

[3] The executor then pays debts and taxes under court supervision.

[4] The executor then handles, again under court supervision, distribution of the assets of the estate in accordance with the terms of the written will.

[5] Under Alabama law, "Any part of the estate of a decedent not effectively disposed of by his will passes to his heirs as prescribed in the following sections of this chapter [the rules applicable to intestate succession]." Section 43-8-40 (http://www.legislature.state.al.us/CodeofAlabama/1975/43-8-40.htm)

[6] As noted above, an in-law does not share in the decedent's estate under the intestate succession rules.

[7] And again you remind us that you are not a lawyer.
 
All things considered:

[1] It looks like the OP doesn't get the guns by bequest, because there is no indication that there was a will which was admitted to probate. In any case, that takes time, and not enough time has passed.

[2] The OP can't get the guns by intestate succession, because under the intestate decent laws of Alabama, in-laws don't share in the estate.

[3] So the OP hasn't acquired the guns by bequest or by intestate succession for the purposes of 18 USC 922(a)(3) and 18 USC 922(a)(5).

[4] That doesn't mean that the mother-in-law can't give the guns to the OP (assuming none of the other relatives object and that the OP is not a prohibited person).

[5] It only means that the mother-in-law, a resident of Alabama, must transfer the guns to the OP, a resident of Georgia, through an FFL located in Georgia. That sort of thing is done all the time, and it should present no problems. It'll just cost a little money.
 
OP, stop being so damned cheap. Take the guns to an FFL in AL and have them shipped to your FFL in GA. They can be shipped USPS FFL to FFL, so you're talking the price of a Priority Mail Flat Rate box as far as postage is concerned. Geez, people always trying to reinvent the wheel. :banghead:
 
[5] It only means that the mother-in-law, a resident of Alabama, must transfer the guns to the OP, a resident of Georgia, through an FFL located in Georgia. That sort of thing is done all the time, and it should present no problems. It'll just cost a little money.

I will gladly accept all the guns for the cost of postage and transfer fees! Because I am such a nice guy, of course. :D
 
HexHead said:
OP, stop being so damned cheap. Take the guns to an FFL in AL and have them shipped to your FFL in GA. They can be shipped USPS FFL to FFL, so you're talking the price of a Priority Mail Flat Rate box as far as postage is concerned.
One of my local FFLs charges $75 + postage to ship firearms.

Cheap? I don't think so.
 
Update- sorry for the delay in posting. Thanks to all who contributed. My FIL did have a will, and my MIL is executor. I spoke with another local FFL. He said all that is needed is a written bill of sale transferring ownership as part of my FIL's wishes. I don't think any firearms were mentioned in the will.
 
If you want to be completely legal it's not a good practice to take the word of "local" FFL's. Many of them have no more idea of the actual law than many internet "lawyers".
 
catmath 1911 said:
Update- sorry for the delay in posting. Thanks to all who contributed. My FIL did have a will, and my MIL is executor. ... I don't think any firearms were mentioned in the will.
Then you may not be out of the woods. If the guns are mentioned in the will, you don't acquire them by bequest. A bequest is only a gift under the terms of the written will.

If some of the decedent's property isn't specifically mentioned in the written will, one of two things happens:

[1] As I mentioned in post 27, under Alabama law, anything that doesn't get disposed of by the will passes under the intestate succession rules. And under the Alabama intestate succession rules, in-law don't share in the estate.

[2] Most well drafted wills have a residuary clause. That basically say something like, "If anything is left over after everyone else named gets whatever the will says they get, what's left over goes to X." Whoever X is is called the "residuary beneficiary" or the "residuary legatee." So if the guns aren't mentioned in the will, and if there's a residuary clause, the guns, and perhaps other thing, have been bequeathed to whoever the residuary beneficiary is.
 
catmath 1911 said:
What if my wife is bequested ownership of the handguns?
Nope, I'm not interested in playing "what if." You've already said that you didn't think the guns were mentioned in the will. The existence of a will was new information, and I wondering what other surprises are out there.

I think I've covered the subject reasonably thoroughly, based on the information supplied thus far. You should be able to decide what you want/need to do now.
 
I wanted to add that while I Appreciate everyone's input, I have more sense than to rely on any internet source for information. This is strictly an academic discussion.
 
Fiddletown, wasn't trying to make a jab at you. I really appreciate all the information that you and other members have contributed. The questions raised here were to help me do the most lawful transfer possible. My MIL will be in touch with a lawyer. Thanks again to all and God bless
 
Catmath, you accidentally raised a good point about your wife. Depending on how the will is worded, she might inherit them via intestate succession. Then, if she is so inclined, could give them to you for Christmas or your birthday once they are safely back in Georgia.
 
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