Integrally Suppressed Ruger .22

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I am in the market for both an integrally suppressed Ruger 10/22 and an integrally suppressed Ruger MkIII pistol. I have a few questions though:

Who makes the best integrally suppressed Ruger 10/22?
Who make the best integrally suppressed Ruger MkIII pistol?
For these two guns, can I just buy the barrel or do some manufacturers make the barrel part of the receiver?
If I send in my own 10/22 or MkIII firearm or barrel to be suppressed, does it have to be a bull barreled firearm or can it have the standard barrel?

I know that "best" is relative. The things that matter most to me are quietness, reliability, and ability to clean (in that order). Weight is not an issue. Thanks.
 
Unless you already have a good removable .22 suppressor, I really don't recommend starting off with integral suppressors. Integrally suppressed guns aren't very popular at all; people want a suppressor that they can move from one firearm to another. And because integral suppressors aren't popular, all the newest and best .22 suppressors are the normal detachable kind like the Silencerco Sparrow and the SWR Spectre. Other than looks, there's really not much advantage to an integral suppressor; if you put a shorter suppressor on a threaded barrel 22/45, it's not going to be much longer than an integrally suppressed model.

The only integrally suppressed 22/45 and 10/22 I can think of off the top of my head are the Gemtech Oasis models (they make both a rifle and a pistol version). But those are both sealed and can't be disassembled. Some other companies offer models that can be disassembled, but all the ones I've seen still have aluminum baffles.

So with an integrally suppressed .22 you're going to get a suppressor that's inferior to the latest designs like the Sparrow and the Spectre, you're not going to be able to remove it to put it on another gun, and they're going to be more difficult to disassemble and clean. So unless durability and serviceability aren't important, and you have enough money to buy more than one silencer, and you don't care about being able to move it from one gun to another, you're going to be much better off with a removable .22 suppressor.
 
I do see potential advantages to an integrated 10/22 suppressor, like Thompson Machine's "Outback" in that its not an SBR but internally the barrel has been shortened to help keep things sub-sonic.

But a Sparrow or Spectre are more versatile -- one can can do your 22/45 and 10/22

If I send in my own 10/22 barrel to be suppressed,
I believe Thompson Machine sells their "Outback" integrated as a complete rifle or as a replacement barrel for the 10/22.
 
wally said:
I do see potential advantages to an integrated 10/22 suppressor, like Thompson Machine's "Outback" in that its not an SBR but internally the barrel has been shortened to help keep things sub-sonic.
Have you seen the Tactical Solutions SBX barrel? It's not quite as clean-looking as an integral design, but it's the same overall length and a lot more convenient. And the Sparrow fits in it perfectly, almost like it was designed for it.
 
I met a shooter at the range one day that had an integrally suppressed Mark II. It was stainless, and a beautiful pistol. The work was first rate, and it was difficult to tell that it was suppressed. It looked just like the standard profile Mark II pistol. My 22/45 with Sparrow was quieter. BUT my 22/45 LOOKS like a pistol, with a suppressor screwed onto the end. The ONLY advantage I see to an integral, is it doesnt have that "OMG !! ASSASSIN !!" look to it.
 
Does anyone have any experience with this: http://www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/MIST-22-3p929.htm

I like the integrally suppressed guns. I have a 9mm AR that is integrally suppressed by SRT Arms.

I know that there are some good .22 suppressors available today, but I find it difficult to believe that companies don't offer MkIII or 10/22 integral builds that are quieter than a screw on suppressor. I like the MkIII and 10/22 integrals because they are very clean-looking in the sense that they just look like bull barreled variant and there is no extra length added for the screw on suppressor.
 
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