Interesting M1 Garand today

[igotta40]

I went to a shop/range and on display on the countertop was a M1 with no markings on the receiver as one would normally see. There was a series of numbers & WRA (Winchester) on the bolt. The employee didn’t seem to know there should have been markings. He said the number on the bolt was the serial #.

it was hard for me to tell if it had been ground down, so I can’t say for sure it had the serial # at one time or not. Very peculiar to me. I didn’t ask if it was for sale.

 

[Shanghai McCoy]

Maybe it was a "lunch box gun"..?

 

[Charlie98]

It might have been a rebuild.

I have a 1942 Springfield, rebuilt by FedOrd. The SN is barely readable from the repark...

 

[AlexanderA]

I went to a shop/range and on display on the countertop was a M1 with no markings on the receiver as one would normally see. There was a series of numbers & WRA (Winchester) on the bolt. The employee didn’t seem to know there should have been markings. He said the number on the bolt was the serial #.

it was hard for me to tell if it had been ground down, so I can’t say for sure it had the serial # at one time or not. Very peculiar to me. I didn’t ask if it was for sale.

The serial number and manufacturer's name should be on the heel of the receiver. If it isn't, that means that the markings have been defaced, and this gun could get you in a lot of trouble. Stay far away.

The numbers on the bolt are a "drawing number" and have nothing to do with the serial. Besides, a serial number is never placed on a removable part like a bolt.

 

[Charlie98]

He said the number on the bolt was the serial #.

Complete untruth.

 

[Show Me]

Deep grinding to get that off. No one here will ever know without several good pictures. Welded, foreign aftermarket. Remade on a Pakistani dirt floor shop. Ultra rare shop sample worth many thousands. We do know the bolt number isn't the serial

 

[igotta40]

Yes, I know the number on the bolt isn’t the serial number. I’m no expert, so I can’t speak with any authority, but it looked sketchy as hell. But this gang of ‘tacticool’ bros running the shop, to not know what was on the countertop, that’s unreal.

 

[bernie]

I believe the Lithgow receivers had unmarked heels. I believe most of these were assembled with USGI parts.

 

[Steel Horse Rider]

It is probably an aftermarket receiver. I have a Garand that came from the Dutch NATO collection. I didn't give much for it and after reading a lot of negative opinions concerning said receiver I had a gunsmith I trust check it out and give me an evaluation. In his opinion as long as I was not concerned about it not being original just shoot it, and I have for over 20 years. I also have 6 other "real" Garands and I can't determine any difference in how they shoot from the unmarked original. Mine had identification information stamped inside the stock, which is how I know where it was from originally..

 

[7mmsavage]

Likely a receiver made by Century Arms (or whoever casts them for Century) I found one once too in a local gun shop. Serial number and other info should be on the left side of the receiver. Put your wallet back in your pocket and RUN!

 

[Remington1911]

It is probably an aftermarket receiver. I have a Garand that came from the Dutch NATO collection. I didn't give much for it and after reading a lot of negative opinions concerning said receiver I had a gunsmith I trust check it out and give me an evaluation. In his opinion as long as I was not concerned about it not being original just shoot it, and I have for over 20 years. I also have 6 other "real" Garands and I can't determine any difference in how they shoot from the unmarked original. Mine had identification information stamped inside the stock, which is how I know where it was from originally..

Those people that give "negative opinions" generally fall into one of two groups. Snobs that want everything perfect, matching so on. And total idiots.....and usually one goes hand in hand with the other.

I have an old Blue Sky import. For those that don't know moons ago they imported a big batch of rifles from korea, all of them beat to hell and back. They look very well used, and guess what they did fight in the korean war.

These also got looked down upon, and got many "negative opinions" as to just how "good" they are. Well yes they do look rode hard and put away wet, I can also say that there is very little chance this rifle did not see action in the korean war. It was used, it is part of history it's well used, dented stock, scratches and everything that makes it special, makes it an actual war horse is on display for all to see. I want that history, I looked for that, it is what I want.

 

[AlexanderA]

These also got looked down upon, and got many "negative opinions" as to just how "good" they are. Well yes they do look rode hard and put away wet,

I used a "Blue Sky" barreled receiver (stripped) to assemble a rifle with other parts. (My main concern was the condition of the bore, which was OK.) The gun, as assembled, turned out quite nice, better than my rewelded WW2 Winchester M1 (which also looks fairly good externally).

The gun has the normal Springfield Armory markings on the receiver heel. The only indication that it's a Korean re-import is the small "Blue Sky" stamping on the barrel near the muzzle.

 

[Megawatt maker]

Those people that give "negative opinions" generally fall into one of two groups. Snobs that want everything perfect, matching so on. And total idiots.....and usually one goes hand in hand with the other.

I have an old Blue Sky import. For those that don't know moons ago they imported a big batch of rifles from korea, all of them beat to hell and back. They look very well used, and guess what they did fight in the korean war.

These also got looked down upon, and got many "negative opinions" as to just how "good" they are. Well yes they do look rode hard and put away wet, I can also say that there is very little chance this rifle did not see action in the korean war. It was used, it is part of history it's well used, dented stock, scratches and everything that makes it special, makes it an actual war horse is on display for all to see. I want that history, I looked for that, it is what I want.

I have one of those to...in fact the second gun I bought ever. Mine, at least when I bought it, wasn't beat up at all. The bore was (was...ill get to that) pristine, and it shot fantastic. Very light stamp saying Blue Sky on the barrel. Only thing the handgaurd color is mismatched, clearly replaced way back whenever.

I've had it 40 years now, many thousands of rounds...all kinds of ammo...from rock bottom surplus from God knows where, to new factory...corrosive, none corrosive..to who knows...

Its do for a new barrel badly. Its going to be one if my next projects...maybe sent it to Fulton or Aniston...where it goes, I'm going full restore.

 

[Remington1911]

They did not stamp them hard but you can see that blue sky on there. I have shot mine quite a bit as well, when it gets to be time, I want to hang onto that barrel.....or I might just get another one as a shooter to keep this one as it rolled off the truck.

Mine has a rack # on the stock, and really does look horrid, it does shoot pretty well however.

 

[4v50 Gary]

I lurnt sumthin new today. So what if it's pure BS.

 

[Hesa Hard1]

[t="igotta40, post: 12223304, member: 156675"]I went to a shop/range and on display on the countertop was a M1 with no markings on the receiver as one would normally see. There was a series of numbers & WRA (Winchester) on the bolt.

The employee didn’t seem to know there should have been markings. He said the number on the bolt was the serial #.[/QUOTE]

LOL! Ah yeah, no ... More proof that gun shops explicitly hire idjits.