Is it safe to shoot this in a black powder revolver?

[yeet]

I'm new to BP haven't shot anything yet but I have an 1849 repro in .31 coming, I ordered these to go with it.

http://www.acmebullet.com/bullets-r...lets/32-Cal-78-RN-Lead-Cast-Bullets-Hard-Cast

Will it be fine? Somebody told me the lead could be too hard and spike pressures?

 

[troy fairweather]

I'm new to BP haven't shot anything yet but I have an 1849 repro in .31 coming, I ordered these to go with it.

http://www.acmebullet.com/bullets-r...lets/32-Cal-78-RN-Lead-Cast-Bullets-Hard-Cast

Will it be fine? Somebody told me the lead could be too hard and spike pressures?

dont know if the lube will work u need the spg lube for black call them and ask. u may have to round the rammer to fit them. the uberti u may not have to

 

[Fingers McGee]

These are .313 dia and too small. The 49 pocket takes a .321 to .323 roundball. These hard cast bullets won't seat and will probably fall out of the chambers

 

[Stumper]

The issue isn't so much that "hard" will spike pressures. The real problem is that hard alloys are difficult to seat in the chambers and commercial bullets for cartridge loading aren't made for the task . IF those bullets are not too small for a friction fit and not too large to seat in the chambers they might be usable. Your best and cheapest option will be commercial buckshot. You really need to have your revolver in hand to measure the chambers then you can know what size you actually need. Blackpowder revolvers are fun but nominal calibre and reality are not always closely related. Whatever the chambers measure you need either a round ball a smidge bigger or a picket bullet that is smaller at the base (so you can start it) and fat enough in the middle that it has to be swaged down slightly as it is rammed home so that it won't just fall out.

 

[Stormson]

Our beloved repros ARE made from much softer steel then most modern guns. Shrugs.. Its what it IS.

That being said, the "soft" steel of our modern guns is STILL better then the iron, pot metal, and even real steel of yesteryear.

You will NOT blow ya hand off using hard cast balls... But what you MAY, and probably WILL do, is to wear out the rifling and forcing cone much faster then it was designed to be.

If you hard rounds once or twice a year you will get wear.. If you shoot 100 of them a day you will get VERY good at using BP... But you will also need to replace your handgun within a year or so... They ARE cheaper then most, but that dont make em FREE...

So, it pretty much depends on YOUR situation.. Do you shoot a LOT? If not then why would you care either way, go with the soft stuff! Do you shoot a very little? Well then again, why bother with hard stuff? Pay the extra for what its DESIGNED to use and youll save in the end...

If youre looking for DEFENSE out of a little 31.. well.. I would look to the 44 myself, but know that in ANY caliber the soft stuff has a "SPLAT" effect that the hard stuff doesnt... That being said, it DOESNT have the penetration that hard casts do...

So.. I suppose.. All things considered, I cant really SAY without knowing what ELSE (your personal situation and goals) should BE considered! LoL

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Sounds to me like those are bullets designed for .32 caliber cartridge reloading.

 

[raa-7]

Lee makes a 98 grain mold for .32 if your into casting your own.

 

[paul harm]

The simple answer is NO, don't use them. Use soft lead balls or bullets designed for MLing guns.

 

[midland man]

I recommend round balls only much easier on the rammer!!

 

[midland man]

I'm new to BP haven't shot anything yet but I have an 1849 repro in .31 coming, I ordered these to go with it.

http://www.acmebullet.com/bullets-r...lets/32-Cal-78-RN-Lead-Cast-Bullets-Hard-Cast

Will it be fine? Somebody told me the lead could be too hard and spike pressures?

and being to loose well here comes the chain fire!

 

[44 Dave]

Some use #0 buckshot as it is.32.

 

[TTv2]

Some use #0 buckshot as it is.32.

Buckshot is a bit harder, but it's at least the right size. Can buy a lot of pellets for cheap too.

 

[maint1517]

I know with round balls you want to trim off a ring of lead to help prevent chain fire. If is the same with cast bullets, you will most likely bend or break your loading leaver trying to load hard cast bullets.

 

[expat_alaska]

I know with round balls you want to trim off a ring of lead to help prevent chain fire. If is the same with cast bullets, you will most likely bend or break your loading leaver trying to load hard cast bullets.

Good advice, but I seem to think most chain fires occur from the rear of the cylinder due to poorly fitted caps and/or a cap that has fallen off of a loaded chamber, although I have never had a chain fire.

Jim

 

[drobs]

If they are undersized, you could try paper patching them...

Might be fun.

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

One could try knurling them as suggested in the back powder essentials part of the bp 1st page. They may be too small to successfully do this but may be worth a try, it worked for me with 452 diameter semi wad cutters in my Ruger Old Army pistols. The knurling expanded the bullet base to 458 for a tight fit in the chambers, so far no problems noticed.

 

[drobs]

Reminds me, I wanted to try shooting some 36 cal patched round ball in my 44 cal revolvers.
Oh well next time.

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

Are you woofing us or serious?

 

[rodwha]

Are you woofing us or serious?

I figure he is serious. I’ve thought of trying something like that with .457” balls in my .50 cal rifle double patching. Just to see...

 

[Slamfire]

Use soft lead, which has no alloying elements, in black powder revolvers. Hard cast bullets are inappropriate. Save them to trade with someone for dead soft lead round ball bullets.

 

[damoc]

Ive double patched with good success out of a .50 cal hawken using .454 ball also out of a .44 pistol using .36 RB but when i tried this with a revolver
.32 I could not get it to work well sometimes it "farted" out the end of the barrel other times it got stuck I think with these smaller caliber revolver the extra friction from a press fit helps with pressure buildup to make them shoot reliably.

I figure he is serious. I’ve thought of trying something like that with .457” balls in my .50 cal rifle double patching. Just to see...

 

[drobs]

Are you woofing us or serious?

Not my video but I'd give it a try:

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

Wow that opens up a whole new world of possibilities! Just goes show you anything is possible. Never would have thought about it or tried it. Wonder how accurate his shots were? He hit the steel at least once so I guess it is sort of there.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Loading for cap'n'ball revolver and muzzleloading barrel arms should be thought of as two different disciplines.

 

[4v50 Gary]

It can be done, but I'd rather use the right ball made of soft lead. Remember there is the barrel cylinder gap that the patch must also go through. I'd rather not have to deal with it. Even fitted conicals are better (IMO).