mptrimshop
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I picked up some 9mm...$9.98 a box and some .223....$39.88 a bulk pack of 100 rounds at wal-mart tonight.....got 2 boxes of .223 and 4 of 9mm. There was alot more there to , but they limit ya to 6 boxes per person per day.
Is the ammo supply on the rise
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Deus Machina
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It's starting to come back, with the with the panic--and budgets--slowly declining.
Still have a hard time finding any SD stuff, though. It's tough to find my 50-round boxes of Gold Dots (I refuse to pay the same amount for 20 rounds) and I can't for the life of me find any HST.
Still have a hard time finding any SD stuff, though. It's tough to find my 50-round boxes of Gold Dots (I refuse to pay the same amount for 20 rounds) and I can't for the life of me find any HST.
chris in va
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I'm just glad I started reloading. All those trips to WallyWorld et al trying to scrounge for any 9mm I could find...yikes. Now I just run down to the local gun store and sweat over paying $39/1000 for primers.
22-rimfire
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Ammo supplies are on the increase. Gun shops seem to have ammo. Some have a great selection. You pay for it. Walmart still sells out, but not of everything as it was before. I was in Dicks last week and the shelves were full of ammo.
mptrimshop
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what do you think .223 will get down to........it bottom price?
DeathByCactus
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Blame the hoarders~ Heretics!
Wilson2
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Yo Mama,
One box now and then certainly isn't hoarding. But there is little doubt that hoarding has contributed to the price increase and lack of supply.
Please don't take my post as finger pointing at hoarders. Anyone who fears what Congress and Obama may do with new laws and chooses to stock up is free to do so. Only the passing of time will determine if hoarders' concerns are warranted.
I'll be glad when the hoarders have enough to satisfy them and they can sleep well. We should see some improvement in supply and prices when the current demand drops.
By the way, I believe that worldwide industrial demand for raw materials prior to the economic slowdown also contributed to some ammo price increases prior to Obama's winning the presidency. I'm not sure about this, but I heard it mentioned some before we got close to last year's elections.
One box now and then certainly isn't hoarding. But there is little doubt that hoarding has contributed to the price increase and lack of supply.
Please don't take my post as finger pointing at hoarders. Anyone who fears what Congress and Obama may do with new laws and chooses to stock up is free to do so. Only the passing of time will determine if hoarders' concerns are warranted.
I'll be glad when the hoarders have enough to satisfy them and they can sleep well. We should see some improvement in supply and prices when the current demand drops.
By the way, I believe that worldwide industrial demand for raw materials prior to the economic slowdown also contributed to some ammo price increases prior to Obama's winning the presidency. I'm not sure about this, but I heard it mentioned some before we got close to last year's elections.
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For what?
mountainpharm
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My local Wal-Mart (northwestern NC) has Federal 9mm stocked fairly consistently, but forget about other calibers. .45 ACP is non-existent. However, I was in Gander Mountain in Greensboro about 6 weeks ago and it appeared they were well-stocked across the board.
TheDawgfather
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Here in Athens, GA the supply is decent. You can find just about everything except .380. Prices are still high, but .380 is the only thing you simply can't find anywhere.
hadmanysons
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Ammo is starting to appear again here in Arkansas but reloading supplies are still skimp. Plenty of primers but I haven't seen a .30 cal bullet of any kind in a LONG time.
bikerdoc
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Since before many of you were born, Doc's rule was;
Buy two, shoot the oldest one on the shelf. Working on 1989 purchases!
Planned acumulation over time is not hoarding.
Buy two, shoot the oldest one on the shelf. Working on 1989 purchases!
Planned acumulation over time is not hoarding.
InkEd
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Still cannot find anything in my area.
mptrimshop
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it was real hard to find ammo around here till about 3 weeks ago
1911Tuner
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It appears to be increasing in North Carolina...slowly but steadily. Prices remain unchanged...but we can hope.
For reloaders and handloaders, the primer shortage should be easing up soon. The bulk of primer production was going into loaded cartridges...which the companies could no wise meet demand for. Since there's a bigger profit margin on a primer that's in a loaded cartridge...that's where they went. The ammunition manufacturers are in business to make money, after all. They're not gonna cut their own throats by selling their components at a lower profit.
For reloaders and handloaders, the primer shortage should be easing up soon. The bulk of primer production was going into loaded cartridges...which the companies could no wise meet demand for. Since there's a bigger profit margin on a primer that's in a loaded cartridge...that's where they went. The ammunition manufacturers are in business to make money, after all. They're not gonna cut their own throats by selling their components at a lower profit.
huntsman
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+1 It will never go back to what it was; the question is how bad will the new normal be.
WoofersInc
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It was just starting to trickle back in here in Vegas. But now that California has their ammo bill, I expect to see it go away again as visitors that are here in town buy up what they can.
forgottenson
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Still hard to find 9mm, 45, 44, 357, 223, and 380s. But the 40,s are all over in the Wally's around here.
No way. Not come back yet, and never will IMO.
No one has taken responsiblity in the industry yet, and don't blame us "hoarders", which is a joke if one box every so often is hoarding.
Got to be one of the more........disjointed......responses on this I've seen since the early days and the screams of "It's all a cunning plot by THEM to take our ammo".
If the dear poster would care to review any of the hundreds of threads on this very topic they might glean a fact or three about Supply and Demand, Just In Time Manufacturing, Supply Curve Dynamics, The psychology of irrational behaviour, cost/benefit analysis of investment in capital plant, economic turn down, futures in lock in supply contracts etc etc etc.
We are now, as was generally agreed by the more rational, seeing the return to pre election, pre hysteria behaviour where the only marginally elastic supply is returning to the demand side.
Assuming no external factors we are likely to continue to see costs drop and supply rise to CLOSE to "original" points over the next 6-9 months. There will however be factors such as the value of the dollar, cost of labor and materiel etc that will increase base costs and therefore cost to the customer.
No one has taken responsiblity in the industry yet, and don't blame us "hoarders", which is a joke if one box every so often is hoarding.
Got to be one of the more........disjointed......responses on this I've seen since the early days and the screams of "It's all a cunning plot by THEM to take our ammo".
If the dear poster would care to review any of the hundreds of threads on this very topic they might glean a fact or three about Supply and Demand, Just In Time Manufacturing, Supply Curve Dynamics, The psychology of irrational behaviour, cost/benefit analysis of investment in capital plant, economic turn down, futures in lock in supply contracts etc etc etc.
We are now, as was generally agreed by the more rational, seeing the return to pre election, pre hysteria behaviour where the only marginally elastic supply is returning to the demand side.
Assuming no external factors we are likely to continue to see costs drop and supply rise to CLOSE to "original" points over the next 6-9 months. There will however be factors such as the value of the dollar, cost of labor and materiel etc that will increase base costs and therefore cost to the customer.
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I hear you, but time after time I'm there when the ammo comes in, and 5 boxes for a full order is rediculous. 5 boxes is gone like that, and so I can't equate hoarding at all if the supply was never there to begin with.
It is them taking our ammo. There is just no other conclusion I can find. Seriously, I'm there as the ammo comes in. It's nothing. I understand laws of supply and demand ect..., but it's all mute with no deliveries!
Not with "change" in the new. Notice it's always something, in the next 6-9 months there will be the swine flu, or some other emergency that they will blame higher prices on.
Now to my main point. Where are the manufacturers? Not one addressing the ammo shortage other than saying we are hoarding (which I already feel I have fully addressed). This sounds very close to the news and politicians saying the same thing.
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