Is the Holosun HS503GU a "military grade optic without military grade price"

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Looks like an original design inspired by the Aimpoint offering.

50K hr batt life and auto-shutdown very nice compared to the lower-end competition.

HQ is in Walnut, CA.

A source claims made in China. It's possible to get good products made in China, but you have to really keep the contract language tight.
 
This is the exact same red dot as the primary arms 50k battery life one. Holsun makes it and I believe the Bushnell trs. They generally get good feedback for the value, but are not aimpoints durability wise
 
There are several variations on this sight offered under several brand names (TruGlo and Sig are a couple other examples). Overall, I think they are worth their cost but, as you mentioned, they are not Aimpoints.
 
I think that's the shortest nutnfancy video I've ever seen.

From the Holosun website:

"Employing new LED technology, the life time for one CR2032 battery can reach 2 years if left on constantly. However, the motion based automatic on and off feature extends the battery life dramatically beyond that for the average shooter."

Even if it could only last about as long as a cheap Chinese $30 from 15 years ago, the auto on/off feature can make that battery life a LOT more practical.
 
Bushnell TRS-25 is not a 50K hr batt life.

Holosun at 2016 Shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FZvTCJNXns
Yes the bushnell is not 50k baterry life, I should have made the clear. I was just trying to point out that Holsun is the manufacturer for many of these. Primary Arms and TruGlo also have the same thing as the Bushnell Trs made by Holsun in the $90 dollar range. One other thing to point out is look at what comes with these from the different companies. I believe the Primary Arms model comes with only a low profile mount, but if you buy the Holsun model on ebay it includes a high profile mount as well. Something to consider depending on your needs
 
Holosun models are made in China, and it's suspected the new SIG models are, too. When you note the same controls in largely the same place, same configuration, same finish, and the same pricing - then what is there to question?

There is a big internet full of forums and websites that discuss things in detail. I googled this up: http://www.holosun.ca/index.php/about-us

In the article it referenced a VP of Holosun stating their products are made in China In fact, they were making the optics for others and decided to put out their own line. I can also reference a statement from the owner of Lucid that his scopes are made in China - in the same plant Aimpoint, Eotechs, and other brands are made.

China making Aimpoints? Sure - only the .Gov contract optics are required to be made in the USA per the Berry compliance regulations. For that matter, the Army can't even get US made running shoes and has been jumping thru hoops to create a vendor to supply them. So far IIRC we are handing out Korean running shoes. The first shipments of black berets were even Chinese.

Is the Holosun equal to Aimpoint for durability? Consider that the Aimpoint doesn't have break proof lenses or is bullet resistant. You beat on it and you can break it. There are red dots which were specifically made to compete for the red dot contract on the market, my suggestion would be to find out if Holosun submitted theirs.

I don't think so.

Their slogan is just marketing hype, take it with a grain a salt. Look at owner's recommendations and how they have held up. Short of buying 30 of them and having an Infantry platoon deploy with them we won't ever be really sure.
 
Apparently not.

Aimpoint is manufactured in Sweden. Eotech, at least since the acquisition of the company by L-3, is made in the USA.
 
No way I would trust one. The failure to keep out water is more than just a failure to keep out water. It's an indication that your product doesn't live up to its advertised claims. Which leads one to ask "In what other ways will this fail someday"? Not worth a few $$ savings IMO.

Grampa makes a great point about gas retention.

The Achilles heal of virtually all Chinese-manufactured knock-off tech items is quality control. I wouldn't be surprised if user experiences are all over the board. You might get lucky, then again... that instant-on feature might work right up to the point where you need it to.

Think I'll pass. But thank you sir for your great reviews!
 
Thank you for the kind words. The slogan is obviously just hype, but I don't think many of us expected otherwise. I wouldn't recommend the Holosun for duty use In fact, I wouldn't recommend anything but an Aimpoint or Trijicon for duty use. But for anyone who doesn't earn their living carrying a gun, the question is whether the intersection of cost and quality is appropriate. So far, I think it is. If you can afford an Aimpoint H-1, get it. If you already have irons on your HD carbine and the choice is between a Holosun and nothing (or an even cheaper optic), I think you might be better off getting the Holosun. Time will tell.

I also reviewed a Lucid HD7 recently. That video will probably go up next week.
 
Thank you for the kind words. The slogan is obviously just hype, but I don't think many of us expected otherwise. I wouldn't recommend the Holosun for duty use In fact, I wouldn't recommend anything but an Aimpoint or Trijicon for duty use.

What ever happened to Eotech? I didn't follow the drama with them. Are they a non-contender these days?

But for anyone who doesn't earn their living carrying a gun, the question is whether the intersection of cost and quality is appropriate. So far, I think it is. If you can afford an Aimpoint H-1, get it. If you already have irons on your HD carbine and the choice is between a Holosun and nothing (or an even cheaper optic), I think you might be better off getting the Holosun. Time will tell.

Very true.
 
Their sights were found not to meet contract specifications in several regards. They issued a refund to anyone who had one of the affected models. I personally think this was a very poor business decision. I think they should have issued a product credit or exchange. Since they were willing to give me cash money though, I took it.
 
Just curious why you didn't review the current Holosun HS515C instead of the older HS503?

To clear up some of the confusion above.

1. The HS503 is made in China for Holosun
2. The HS503 is the same sight as the SIG Romeo
3. The HS503 is the same sight as the Primary Arms Advanced Micro Dot
4. The Bushnell TRS-25 is not the same sight
5. The Aimpoint is not manufactured in China

Besides the price point, one of the main attractions of the Holosun is that it offers the same recticle as the EOTech
 
I wasn't interested in the solar gimmick. Based on other reviews, it's not actually solar powered, the solar panel is just used to adjust brightness and extend battery life. That model doesn't seem to have the motion based power on feature. Both appear to be in current production. I bought the sight that had the features I want.
 
I wasn't criticizing your purchase choice, just wondering why you hadn't tested the "Product Improved" model.

I've had a chance to test them side-by-side and the features of each really do set them apart. My tipping point is deciding if I want the attached lens caps and flash hider that come with the HS515C

I didn't find the solar panel to be a gimmick as the ability of the brightness to quickly and automatically adapt to changing lighting conditions was very useful when moving from bright sunlight into a room.

That the panel extends battery life, by definition, makes it solar powered. Although it is a bit of a moot point when battery life is 50k hours at the 2MOA Dot setting and 20k hours at the 65MOA Circle/Dot setting.

The battery life also makes moot the motion sensing Power-On feature. Leaving the sight constantly on would yield a useful life of 2.25-5.5 years
 
If we believe that the battery life claim is more credible than the waterproof claim. I've used several auto adjusting sights and they always have difficulty with looking from indoors out to bright sunlight or in darkness with a weapon light. They pretty much only work well with even, overhead light.
 
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