Love mine. Don't need a blue ribbon or a thumbs up. For the money I spent it could be the best. Love my K frame too but spent more. My sp101 , there are many like it but this one is mine. Guess I'm conflicted. Never met one I didn't like. They're like my kids, except they always work.
Is the Ruger GP100 the Greatest Double Action Revolver Ever Made?
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JRH6856
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Hardly necessary, Willie. You covered it pretty well.
As to any practical inaccuracy in a Rolex, I don't think anyone would ever notice any... except perhaps on a boat in the middle of the ocean as you describe where daily adjustments are done in seconds to be as accurate as possible.
All I was saying is that under certain circumstances, lack of quality can be overcome by quantity, in other circumstances, lack of quantity can be overcome by quality.
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Ruger GP100.....best....DA...Made ?
Post #1- 1st (Title) question. Answer : "NO" !
Post #1- Last sentence question. Answer : "Yes" !
Although I like the single action Rugers, I really don't care for the DA's.
I detest the "SA" hump behind the cylinder, that the S&W's don't have. Also, the Ruger extended backstrap is too large.
How could anybody say a Ruger DA was better than a Smith. Dirty Harry's gonna get you !
The other guys are right. Try to find some girlfriends !
Post #1- 1st (Title) question. Answer : "NO" !
Post #1- Last sentence question. Answer : "Yes" !
Although I like the single action Rugers, I really don't care for the DA's.
I detest the "SA" hump behind the cylinder, that the S&W's don't have. Also, the Ruger extended backstrap is too large.
How could anybody say a Ruger DA was better than a Smith. Dirty Harry's gonna get you !
The other guys are right. Try to find some girlfriends !
Blue Brick
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So not true.......
I don't know who makes or made the "greatest double action revolver ever made", but I will say I like Ruger revolvers. I agree fit and finish could be better, but in my experience they're good functional defensive guns, and I wouldn't discourage someone from buying one.
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Ruger DA's
I have a neighbor who owned one, and his "broke". He is the only person I have known that actually owned a DA Ruger. Last I heard, he carried a S&W Centennial, 2 Kahr 9mm, and several Glocks (at different times, of course).
I have a neighbor who owned one, and his "broke".
He is the only person I have known that actually owned a DA Ruger. Last I heard, he carried a S&W Centennial, 2 Kahr 9mm, and several Glocks (at different times, of course). MinnesotaFats
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I'm going to have to agree with just about every post Willie S has made. That being said, how many of you that mentioned Korth have actually owned, shot or even held one? Just curious.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Ruger revolver. That doesn't mean that they are the "Greatest Revolvers of all Time."
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weblance said:
TennJed said:
I was positive I remember reading somewhere that the Six Series showed deterioration after continuous firing of full power 357 loads, and one of the reasons the GP100 was developed was to address that issue. I have spent several hours looking through my collection of information on the Six series, and GP100, and cant find that reference. I will back off the statement I made, that the Six Series cant handle continuous firing of full power 357 loads.
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Any gun will eventually show some deterioration after a long steady diet of high flame full power .357 loads. This includes the GP100.
Ruger never gave that as a reason. Many gun writers and then gun owners made this assumption by extension. S&W had introduced the L frame precisely because the K frame could not take a steady diet of full-power .357 loads. The L frame is heavier than the K frame. The GP100 has a heavier frame, than the Six series so...
It's not the things we know, it's the the things we know that just ain't so.
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All this discussion made me go out and get this a couple of hours ago. It looks like a great gun and the trigger was smooth. Actually looking for something that my wife can shoot 38spec out of that wouldn't recoil much. Great value and great buy... doubt it's greatest anything. That is so subjective.
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Stainz
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I traded my similar lockwork SRH nearly ten years ago. It's DA pull was 'okay' - actually great for a Ruger, but worse when it left - despite thousands of rounds shot - than my poorest box-stock new S&W. If you really want an excellent .357 Magnum, try a recent S&W - a 686P or, my favorite, a 627.
No Ruger will ever get my vote as the 'best' revolver, no matter the category, A current thread on my 1895 Nagants reminds me how much more I prefer them over Rugers. I appreciate Ruger's place in the firearms market, however.
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PS My once large collection of Rugers is now limited to one - an Old Army bp c&b!
No Ruger will ever get my vote as the 'best' revolver, no matter the category, A current thread on my 1895 Nagants reminds me how much more I prefer them over Rugers. I appreciate Ruger's place in the firearms market, however.
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PS My once large collection of Rugers is now limited to one - an Old Army bp c&b!
The K-frame issue was from a steady diet of 125gr .357s, not 158gr.Any gun will eventually show some deterioration after a long steady diet of high flame full power .357 loads. This includes the GP100.
Ruger never gave that as a reason. Many gun writers and then gun owners made this assumption by extension. S&W had introduced the L frame precisely because the K frame could not take a steady diet of full-power .357 loads. The L frame is heavier than the K frame. The GP100 has a heavier frame, than the Six series so...
It's not the things we know, it's the the things we know that just ain't so.
Stainz
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Lite weight/hi velocity .357 Magnum rounds produce a more damaging/higher temperature flame at the b/c gap. Alloy framed J-frames keep premature topstrap flame-cutting down by using an inset SS shield. Their tiny forcing cone will still wear prematurely, but no one ever complains about a 5k hot round life span in them. An older K-frame actually suffers the same secondary fate - forcing cone wear and fracture - but whether at 10k or 40k rounds, even S&W doesn't know. The fix is simple - a new barrel - which any armorer with a modicum of skills should be able to change. Avoidance of said wear and fracture is simple - shoot full weight SAAMI-spec .357 Magnums - leave the lite weight hyper velocity loads for carry duty. Of course, a little extra frontstrap width, as in the L-frame, permits thicker forcing cones for .357 Magnums... and really thin forcing cones for .44 Special chambered L-frames!
As to the full frame vs the frame ' cut in half' for the lockwork, let's recall that the upscale N-frame, actually the .500 Magnum X-frame, uses the same construction - and holds up quite well. Starting with a hammer forged and heat treated frame vs Ruger's cast steel is the key. If you get bored one day, compare apples to apples - a 4" SS GP100 to a six shot 4" 686. Size - OAL - is the same - and the 'massive' Ruger weighs in at < 1 oz more than S&W. Recall how much stronger hammer-forged & heat treated steel is than cast, and that assumes no voids, and one really wonders where all of the 'tank-like' Ruger hype comes from.
The fact that a GP100/SRH, or their scaled down cousin, the SP101, can easily be broken down to a trigger group, cannot be disputed. "Then what?" comes to mind... further disassembly requires a ZipLock bag to contain the teeny springs, plungers, etc. S&W's are more straight forward to break down.
There is a place in the firearm world for both brands, but stating that a GP100 is the 'best' is hardly evidenced in the real world.
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As to the full frame vs the frame ' cut in half' for the lockwork, let's recall that the upscale N-frame, actually the .500 Magnum X-frame, uses the same construction - and holds up quite well. Starting with a hammer forged and heat treated frame vs Ruger's cast steel is the key. If you get bored one day, compare apples to apples - a 4" SS GP100 to a six shot 4" 686. Size - OAL - is the same - and the 'massive' Ruger weighs in at < 1 oz more than S&W. Recall how much stronger hammer-forged & heat treated steel is than cast, and that assumes no voids, and one really wonders where all of the 'tank-like' Ruger hype comes from.
The fact that a GP100/SRH, or their scaled down cousin, the SP101, can easily be broken down to a trigger group, cannot be disputed. "Then what?" comes to mind... further disassembly requires a ZipLock bag to contain the teeny springs, plungers, etc. S&W's are more straight forward to break down.
There is a place in the firearm world for both brands, but stating that a GP100 is the 'best' is hardly evidenced in the real world.
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Glad we've finally reached consensus.
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