Jim March just finished Filming "the debate show"

[Jim March]

Oh GOD.

Ya, it could be. Yes, I did an after-show interview. I was beyond simple "pissed".

Big guy? Redhead? Bolo tie?

IF they showed even that much of me, I need to know ASAP.

 

[Warren]

Dang! No Sheriff Jimbo? :sad:

 

[tcdrennen]

Jim - big guy, curly hair & beard, white shirt, bolo tie. 3 second sound bite as noted above.

Saw it tonoght - I've been TiVo'ing the show so I can FF through it and look for the promos and trailers.

Sorry, didn't save it, but it was there, right after the third commercial break, before they went back into the "show".

 

[Warren]

Well, Jim it looks like they aim to show it.

Gird your loins and fight the basturds!

 

[Jim March]

WAIT! I don't have a BEARD! Moustache...

I'm the taller one.

 

[tcdrennen]

Jim, sorry - no beard, it was you. It was about a 3 second clip, and the angle was up from below head height (classic way to make someone look fatter/geekier, IIRC from my photography studies.)

I'll re-TiVo it and see if I can save the clip. If I can transfer it to the computer, I'll send you a mpeg of it. (3-second clip should be "fair use", right? )

 

[BryanP]

I'll grab it with my ReplayTV. If they air any clip of you I can transfer it and transfer it to you or burn you a DVD of the episode.

 

[Carnitas]

I saw it. There's actually two bits. I really quick one (<1sec) of you putting your head down on the table, followed by the after show interview one with the "pretty rough in there" line.

If I connect my TIVO to my lap top can a pull in that clip somehow?

 

[BryanP]

Carnitas,

If you have a 1st or 2nd generation Tivo I believe you have to do some hardware hacking and/or buy some special equipment to get an ethernet connection on it. From what I've heard the new 3rd generation units will have thernet. I can grab it off my ReplayTV as that has ethernet built-in. I've got it connected to a wireless bridge in my living room. Crossballs is on again Thursday night. I'll grab it then and see what I can find.

 

[OF]

Or you can output the analog TiVo signal to a video input on your PC, if there is one...or even just to a VCR.

- Gabe

 

[Giant]

Quote
"All I'm saying is us second amendment people dont exactly have great reputations to begin with. It really helps to enforce the "gun nut" image to have someone flip out and try and sue someone just because they pranked you."


Ransom, in my opinion you so want to be right, that is all it is about with you.

As for the quote above, perhaps you don't like pro gun folk, have little regard for their reputation but most pro gun folk are people of honor with good reputation. Many are admired in their community. Honor and reputation are everything, excepting famiy which comes first above all else.

Giant

 

[JShirley]

I'll reserve judgement until I see the show.

No, I don't agree with casual lying about anything, especially something as small as a laugh. OTOH, this is nothing like ordering a dessert, and being killed- which antifreeze will do.

Interesting, to see posters who evidently have joined just to contribute to this thread.

The link to the website mentions that actors will debate experts. Jim, by an easily understood logical process, is being called an expert. If they butcher what he said, sure, sue them. Otherwise? Grab some Orville Redenbacher's, fire up the Radar Range, and enjoy the show. If we have lost the ability to laugh at ourselves, we've already lost.

If we are secure with ourselves, and with the soundness of what we have to say, we can be secure, not jumpy; accepting, not defensive; gracious, not aggressive. I know which type person most people respond favorably to.
John

 

[cordex]

OTOH, this is nothing like ordering a dessert, and being killed- which antifreeze will do.

Speaking of antifreeze for dessert - if you go to a Steak 'n Shake anytime soon, order a lime sprite (or, if you're a tough guy, a lime coke). All will become clear when you see it come out.

 

[Byron Quick]

I've made my case. I'm done. Ransom

You have stated your opinion. I would hardly call that making a case.

 

[Art Eatman]

I find it more than just a little ironic that at a time when in our society schools will place "self esteem" in higher priority than learning mathematics, the degradation of a person is found to be humorous...

It strikes me as rather low-rent, nay, "plumb sorry", to find anything at all funny in watching somebody be made to feel degraded, to find humor in efforts to destroy a personal belief system.

If I commented further I'd have to ban myself...

Art

 

[JShirley]

Art,

I reckon watching someone make a fool of themselves only degrades the fool.

John

 

[Cosmoline]

Art's right on the money, but I'd go a step further. The line between "reality TV" and the Roman bloodsports is far thinner than most realize. They'd gleefully move beyond merely humiliating people if they could and actually chop them up. They probably HOPED Jim would end up pulling a knife. Indeed they probably hoped he was packing heat. Their two-bit leftist comedian could easily be sacrificed for some high ratings. It's easy to replace such people.

 

[Carnitas]

Jim, did you let your attorney know that they used some of your tape in a trailer?

I'm wondering if they threw that little bit in to see if you are serrious about not letting them use your image. It could be that they are thinking "Throw in this little clip. If he goes after us for that there's not much basis to show damages. If doesnt go after us, it may just be that he's bluff and bluster. If he goes after us after we air the episode, well then will have some cover since if he didnt want his immage used he should have protected his rights after the clip was aired."

 

[ReadyontheRight]

most pro gun folk are people of honor with good reputation.

Excellent point -- Especially Mr. March (and a lot of other shooters both here and outside THR, but this thread is about our Jim March).

 

[fletcher]

I'm pretty sure I just saw him on the Crossballs ad on Comedy Central

 

[gunsmith]

Did you see Chris Simcox last week?

Chris is a leader in the protect the border movement in AZ and he was ambushed on crossballs last week.
It was readily apparent all the editing they did...

Jim,have you thought of contacting him to join your lawsuit?

 

[Jim March]

Chris Simcox got taken?

OH God.

I'll drop him a line.

 

[gunsmith]

Chris Simcox

I was kinda surprised no one else brought this up as it seems we are watching the show to spot the one your on,yeah they ambushed him good.
You can tell that they had to spend hours editing it (well it's obvious to me because it's my GF's hobby and she has her own cable show she edits herself)...
He held up pretty good before he realized it was a hoax,then he wisely kept quiet.

 

[Dirksen]

An hour and a half parsed to "22 minutes" -- the audience sat for 90 minutes?

In the Crossballs shows I've watched, the audience laughs and boos and groans. Could you hear them react from where you sat?

I'm truly fascinated by this situation.

Do you think a pro bono (so far) lawyer has any chance against behemoth Viacom's lawyers, especially after you signed a release (I don't think it matters if you cash the check or not)?

Thanks for reading.

 

[Jim March]

Go back in this thread and READ THE RELEASE. (Assuming it's real, we're not 100% sure.)

The release itself CONTAINS FRAUD (primarily but not limited to the show's name as of 5/18/04).

Then the release basically says "you agree by signing this release that we can con you".

I've talked to others now who are willing to testify that the conditions during the signing of the release were the same as mine: not only was a producer (in my case and at least one other Erika Quinn) constantly talking up a storm the whole time the release was in my hands (which wasn't long), but other people were circulating in and out of the small dressing room. It was a series of carefully planned distractions at that critical point.

There's case law on the books that says "releases" aren't always cast in stone. This is by far one of the weakest "releases" ever created.

It's WAY vulnerable.