Kahrs Incorrectly Get Bad Rap

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Darn good thang theres choices for others. Now run and buy what you want.

If you live in western NC and have a turd of a kahr I will buy it cheap from you.
 
>>If you use the slide release as the manual recommends - no problems.<<

There's nothing wrong with "slingshotting" a Kahr as long as it's done properly. Works every time with my PM9.
 
Yes there is, and the manual does not recommend it for the cw and cm series. Yours may be different. If it works for you that's great. Mine will slingshot now that it's broken in, but there's not really a "wrong" way to do it. Pull back slide and release.
 
And for aesthetics...

Kahr plastic is about the softest there is. Easily scratches, shaves like crazy.

The barrels are media blasted. This is cheaper than polishing. So for $600 you can get a PM9 with the cheapest barrel finish a gun creator can use. Even Taurus polishes the barrel.

Not that it matters, but I didn't see anyone addressing my physical problems with Karhs. Maybe someone will have fun refuting cosmetics.

Oh, did everyone follow the CM9 is having problems with mags splitting in half? kahrtalk has a great run on that going right now.
 
>>but there's not really a "wrong" way to do it.<<

Here's the thing.... some folks tend to use the "overhand" method, and want to "ride" the slide down. This is when it won't work as intended.
 
I can only speak for my own experience with Kahr pistols. I purchased new a P45 in March of 2007. First time out it was light striking like 6 times out of a hundred. Ok, give it the 200 round break in a shot. Consistantly would not go bang on average 6% of the time. Contacted Kahr about the issue and sent it in. Pistol came back three week later. They polished the feed ramp. I never had a problem with feeding or ejecting when the pistol would fire so polishing the feed ramp seemed a little weird.

Went back to the range and still had the light strike issue and I was not confident enough to carry. The pistol was essentially a safe queen until I traded it for a new S&W .380 Bodyguard in May of last year.

I two pistols that I have that have been flawless on performance are a Glock G17 9mm and the Smith 380.

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I have a K40 and K9,early examples with the black oxide finish.They have been 100% reliable with factory ammo and quality reloads.With crappy reloaded ammo from an agency bid not so good.Failure to chamber stoppages.The black oxide finish not the best and can rust easily,needs to be wiped down daily to prevent serious rust if carried.
I do not have any polymer framed guns,only steel and I really like them alot.For a small gun it feels and shoots like a full size gun.Very accurate from 0-25 yards.
Trigger pin tends to drift from left to right after a 50 round string,but has never fallen out or affected reliability,it only goes so far,not much and seems to stop.A little degreasing on the ends and some blue 242 loctite slows the drift down for a while until I do a complete strip each year and clean the gun thoroughly.
 
the only problems talked about with the metal MK or P series seems to be cracked frames.

The polymer guns, like I have said and have not been refuted on, have issues that do warrant their so-so rapport.
 
>>but there's not really a "wrong" way to do it.<<

Here's the thing.... some folks tend to use the "overhand" method, and want to "ride" the slide down. This is when it won't work as intended.
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If that works for you great. A round is supposed to be chambered in a kahr firearm by depressing the slide release on the side of the weapon. Per the manual that comes with the firearm. That works 100% for me and everybody else I've talked to.
 
Here's the thing.... some folks tend to use the "overhand" method, and want to "ride" the slide down. This is when it won't work as intended.
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If they are riding the slide, they are doing it wrong. You keep pulling back on the slide and then release your grip.
 
Let's see:

Two bad PM9's and one bad K9. That leaves one good PM9 for a 25% success rate out of the box. I am not inclined to buy another Kahr pistol.
 
Yes...and thousands upon thousands Glocks go KABOOM or lead to NDs daily.

The internet is a wonderful thing.

And now that I am on my soapbox...it is a slide stop...not a slide release.

My take: train as you mean to fight. Every. Single. Time. Rack the slide by placing your weak hand on the top of the slide (behind the ejection port), pull it back and let it go. Use this racking technique whenever you safety check a gun. Never use the “slide stop” as a “slide release.” The only time I would consider this is if my left arm was incapacitated.

I have spent some time with the founder of Kahr (Justin Moon) a couple of times. He has shown me his quality numbers and they are as high as any of the big name manufacturers after a few start-up issues several years ago.

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I have had seven Kahrs in the last five years, and current have four, PM9, CW40, CW45, and MK40. Two were stolen and one traded on another Kahr. So far, I have not had any failures with any of the seven even during break in, but I do throughly prep all my pistols before firing. Although the CW 40 and 45 are by far my least expensive guns, 80% of the time you will find one or the other on my belt, if I can cover a belt holster. If not, the PM9 or maybe the MK40 will be in a pocket.
 
And now that I am on my soapbox...it is a slide stop...not a slide release.
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Actually on a kahr it's a release. Now get down off that box lol

Google this and tell me what you find.


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CW45 here. I'm fairly familiar with .45s having shot my first 1911 over 50 years ago. Reliability is Job 1 with me. Got the Kahr 2 months ago and it has eaten everything without a hitch. I'm impressed, and in today's climate that's saying a lot.

My suspicion is that many purchasers of semiauto pistols--especially small ones--would be better served with J frame Smiths. KISS and all that. :rolleyes:
 
I bought a CW9 a few months ago and have had zero problems with it. The first day I took it to the range I fired 450 rounds through it without a single malfunction. I was also slingshoting the slide as I do with all my guns and did experience any Failures. YMMV

I also really like the way my CW9 carries IWB. I have been carrying it as much as my J frame lately.
 
Yes...and thousands upon thousands Glocks go KABOOM or lead to NDs daily.
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That's the stupidest thing on a gun forum I read all day. Thanks for entertaining me tonight. If there were literally "thousands" of such occurrences every day as you claim, there would certainly be national media coverage and manufacturers publicly addressing the problem ad nauseam. That post alone shows you have no clue what you are talking about.
 
Rhino, he was being sarcastic, go back and read the whole thread, it was stated that unsupported chambers on the Glocks lead to the majority of kabooms in 40 cal
 
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That's the stupidest thing on a gun forum I read all day. Thanks for entertaining me tonight. If there were literally "thousands" of such occurrences every day as you claim, there would certainly be national media coverage and manufacturers publicly addressing the problem ad nauseam. That post alone shows you have no clue what you are talking about.
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Yeah...you missed that one Rhino. It was a joke about the internet. You can visit almost any gun forum and you will see someone make a negative statement about a weapon....then 2 people back up the statement (usually at least one of them stating something along the lines of "my 2nd cousins brother-in-law had one blow up in his hand")...and suddenly there is an edpidemic of failures associated with a certian gun. It then become gospel and more people pass along the bad info.
 
Ledgehammer said:
Actually on a kahr it's a release. Now get down off that box lol

Google this and tell me what you find.


027M9S Slide Release Lever

Slide Release Lever
Qty: $24.20

Learn something new everyday. Dontcha?
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I stand corrected.

But whether a company calls it a slide stop or a slide catch or a slide release doesn't change the fact of it's intended original purpose......to lock the slide open. Everyone should save themselves some wear and tear on the lever and the slide and release the pressure of the slide on the lever by slingshotting it.
 
I've never heard anything but good comments about Kahr, especially in the area of reliability! My P9 and PM9 are great and very reliable. Some folks question their magazines and the fact that the rounds change position between the top and next round but they feed fine - never had a problem.

As already mentioned they DO recommend that you load the first round from slide lock but I've not had a problem loading by racking the slide to load the 1st round either.
 
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