Kyle Rittenhouse Trial?

[Corpral_Agarn]

The riots magically ceased the morning after Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum, Huber, and Grosskreutz.

I'll give you that!

and that is a very interesting fact.

 

[Gun4Fun90]

holy crud holy crud holy crud. Anyone who is not watching the stream of the court turn it on right now! Potential malicious evidence and disclosure issues by the prosecution!

 

[wiscoaster]

Thnx for heads-up. Just turned it on.

 

[Corpral_Agarn]

holy crud holy crud holy crud. Anyone who is not watching the stream of the court turn it on right now! Potential malicious evidence and disclosure issues by the prosecution!

the lady destroyed krouse with her record of receiving the video in question.

This is grounds for mistrial, I'm thinking.

 

[wiscoaster]

Questions about validity of computer video evidence, so judge wants a computer expert to be put under oath to testify and enter into evidence - as per OAN reporter. Judge was talking about needing a "clean" computer and whether one could be provided. Hmmmm.....

 

[Corpral_Agarn]

Questions about validity of computer video evidence, so judge wants a computer expert to be put under oath to testify and enter into evidence - per OAN reporter. Judge was talking about needing a "clean" computer and whether one could be provided. Hmmmm.....

it's a mess.

The crux is that the defense DID NOT receive the same video that prosecution had.

 

[hso]

he would grab his rifle and head to Kenosha?

This is a myth of the media. He headed out without any firearm because the rifle in question was there in Kenosha, not his home.

 

[Spats McGee]

Questions about validity of computer video evidence, so judge wants a computer expert to be put under oath to testify and enter into evidence - as per OAN reporter. Judge was talking about needing a "clean" computer and whether one could be provided. Hmmmm.....

That's a problem for the State. It has already rested its case. If the judge lets them put on anyone else, it's potentially reversible error.

 

[Jim Watson]

it's a mess.

The crux is that the defense DID NOT receive the same video that prosecution had.

First we had a blurry video, then an enhanced video with made up pixels, now we have a high resolution video kept secret until the last day. I am SO confused.

 

[twarr1]

The jurors, in their minds, can convince themselves there’s no ‘reasonable doubt’, and vote to convict, saving themselves the danger of repercussions for acquittal.
After all it’s not their yard, not their fight. Why endanger themselves and family?”
But we expect them to stand up for justice, law and order, what’s right, etc.
No double standard here.

 

[Spats McGee]

I'm just now watching some of the arguments about the video. If I understand correctly, the prosecution got the video from some dude who showed up at their office, refused to give his name, and air-dropped it to one of the detectives..... How in the world did the judge let that in? Have they never heard of laying a foundation for evidence?!?

 

[Jim Watson]

That is what Branca calls the "Unicorn" video left by the "Video Fairy."

 

[old lady new shooter]

I do not think he did not stay home to "exercise.... his constitutional right afforded to him under the 2nd amendment."

More likely, I think, he went out to do good, and took a firearm for self defense should it be needed.

Agree.

 

[Spats McGee]

And I'm hearing that it was sent to the state crime lab. I'm not sure how much the crime lab could have done in the available time.

 

[old lady new shooter]

Appeasement hasn't ever proved to be much of an enduring protection against harm.

 

[old lady new shooter]

What you get if you don't sequester the jury in a political trial.

I doubt I would pass examination for a jury in a political trial; but I sure got chewed out by the Head Lawyer in a civil case when I said the plaintiff was a coworker, I had heard all the particulars and would not much credit what the defendant said.

I was once called for jury duty and the trial was going to be a husband and wife suing an abortion clinic for medical malpractice. Of course we were asked our opinions on abortion. I said I was equally hostile to both parties. I was not selected.

 

[wiscoaster]

Can the judge throw out the video as evidence at this point? Or is the only option a mistrial?

 

[yeongjo]

"I forewarned you, I forewarned you", judge then goes on to state "it's going to be ugly". At this point if Kyle is found not guilty, no harm no foul, if he is found guilty the judge more than likely will declare a mistrial. That is my take on it right now

 

[old lady new shooter]

Mistrial with prejudice, Kyle goes free and can't be retried. Praying for this!

 

[Spats McGee]

Can the judge throw out the video as evidence at this point? Or is the only option a mistrial?

You can't unring a bell...

 

[old lady new shooter]

"I forewarned you, I forewarned you", judge then goes on to state "it's going to be ugly". At this point if Kyle is found not guilty, no harm no foul, if he is found guilty the judge more than likely will declare a mistrial. That is my take on it right now

Wait, the judge can declare a mistrial AFTER the jury returns their verdict?

 

[wiscoaster]

It seems the defense's main concern is that the jury is watching this video over and over and over again and that maybe there's an over-emphasis on some video evidence that may not have been 100% reliable as evidence (for various reasons already mentioned).

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

That's a problem for the State. It has already rested its case. If the judge lets them put on anyone else, it's potentially reversible error.

Could you explain what this means? What is "potentially reversible error" and why this would be a problem for the State?

 

[mistermills357]

Most experts (whatever), think the SD case is very strong. Even folks on not gun friendly CNN and from non gun friendly backgrounds. However, it is easy to say that he will walk. We don't know. His risk is a compromise lower degree felony which still ruins his life.
The wanton mayhem might set a context BUT it is his individual actions that count. Not the other people running around. What did he do! If I were there, I would leave. No reasonable person, thinks Kyle should have gone there. Now, folks can posture and say he should have. Good for you. Given the consequences, is it worth the risk that he is now facing and the continuing consequences to his life with the various outcome contingencies.

I was tried for first degree murder and acquitted, and the situation came to me, not me to it. And I was asked in court why I did not flee the attack, and it was because I had been struck a few times with a thin steel chair leg.

It may be that mister Rittenhouse should never have been there, but it is doubly certain that the crowd of criminals, who were already there should not have tried to kill him. It was justified for him to shoot to kill.

The mayhem that is BLM and such, it is slowly making its way towards people’s houses.
When it gets there, the crowd won’t have any qualms about attacking those houses, and it won’t even blink, if it has to burn those houses down.

 

[Spats McGee]

Could you explain what this means? What is "potentially reversible error" and why this would be a problem for the State?

If: (1) the judge lets evidence in after the State has rested, (2) KR is convicted; and (3) KR appeals the judgment, then (4) an appellate court could reverse his conviction. For a judge, that's a little like failing the pop quiz, and the appellate court could either send it back for a new trial, or outright dismiss the charges, or some combination thereof.