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So my buddy has this idea that he is going to recover lead from car batteries... I have zero, repeat zero desire to be a part of these efforts... my curiosity is after inital smelting and flux and pouring into ingots is the remelt more dangerous than any other lead? Is the fluxed lead still contamined or carrying dangerous gasses... not a chemistry genius at all...
 
So my buddy has this idea that he is going to recover lead from car batteries... I have zero, repeat zero desire to be a part of these efforts... my curiosity is after inital smelting and flux and pouring into ingots is the remelt more dangerous than any other lead? Is the fluxed lead still contamined or carrying dangerous gasses... not a chemistry genius at all...
I know a fishing Jig maker that salvages Lead from Batteries. How he does it I don't know. Just remember the acid in them aint no joke. It will burn and blind you if not handled properly. Also their may be some inviromental issues in disposing of it. Procced at Own risk. I am a Lead Hound Myself but I draw the line at messing with batteries!!!!​
 
It's not a good Idea and most including me will shy you away from it...

These same folks will have no issue digging a pit, starting a bonfire and tossing dry'd batteries in to retrieve the lead if SHTF.

Just sayin'
 
It's not a good Idea and most including me will shy you away from it...

These same folks will have no issue digging a pit, starting a bonfire and tossing dry'd batteries in to retrieve the lead if SHTF.

Just sayin'
In some cases the ends justify the means...
 
So my buddy has this idea that he is going to recover lead from car batteries
I think it would be less time consuming for your buddy to work extra hours or get a weekend job and just buy lead.

If he has a bunch of car batteries the nearest scrap yard will probably buy them or trade him some clean lead. The one near me would.
 
There is a quick video out there a guy did. A fair sized battery and all he got was about 2 lbs. of clean lead.

Someone once said the better yield batteries are the ones used in golf carts. Don't know how true that is.
 
A couple years ago I found an old, broken in pieces, car battery while cleaning out a shed. I figured I'd toss the lead plates in a pot, put some heat to them and make a few easy ingots! I was wrong, while the battery posts did melt, the plates never did much more than slump together into a pile of slag. And it did produce a lot of nasty fumes. I'm guessing your friend is going to be disappointed in the amount of lead recovered vs the amount of effort involved. Once was enough for me and that's saying something, because I tend to be a slow learner.
 
I have done that battery to lead thing 60 years ago as a kid to make fodder for my musket. But I wasn’t too smart then either! It is a dangerous endeavor! Don’t do it!

Around here now, the closest junk yard will give you $7 for a group 24 battery. There’s another one within 30 miles that used to give you .30 cents a pound on the hoof for old batteries and that includes the water in them- :)
Last time I sold a batch, about 3 years ago, it was just a few pounds short of a ton.
It’s all in marketing!:rofl:
 
I did this when I was like 15 years old and didn't know any better.
Don't do it.
You can buy lead off ebay fairly cheap or go to a scrap yard and pick it up real cheap, they usually have it divided out into 3 piles. Roofing and plumbing lead which is very pure, tire weight lead and everything else such as battery terminal and bullets.
 
Please don't. Really.

Any modern lead/acid battery has cadmium-doped lead electrodes. The cadmium vaporizes before you get the lead fully melted, and it is among the most dangerous heavy metal vapors.

This from someone who happily handles hazmat and hazwaste, because I know the physics, and I know the difference between the Boogie Man and real hazards. . . don't smelt batteries.
 
As cheap as good lead cost, why bother with toxic materials.
Locally I see good lead sell for $2 a pound all of the time.
How much does the average bullet maker need?
Ten maybe twenty pounds?
 
How much does the average bullet maker need?
Ten maybe twenty pounds?

I've got about 600 pounds at the moment. I'm always looking for more. This weekend I plan on pouring at least 700 44mag lead hollow points. That will be about 23 pounds there. I hope to pour another 3-5000 9mm in the next three weeks. That puts me over 70 pounds for 9mm. Then back to pouring 45acp...
 
Baking soda neutralizes the acid in car batteries. The acid will fizz up a lot when you add baking soda but with with a proper amount you will end up with a neutral PH solution that will not burn your skin.
 
This is just a matter of what you have been trained to do. Many people are sared to death just heating and pouring molten lead, nad fear the fumes are poisoning them. I have a chemical engineering degree, there is nothing scary about the process to me. We did much worse in chem labs. Sulfuric acid will burn you and put out an eye, but thats easily controllable with proper PPE and containment. The plates may have some zinc, i dont know, but even if they do additional lead can be added to change the alloy, just like the old guys that used to get type set for free, it had too much tin. same with wheel weights. Any source of lead is a good source. It is so dense when it is melted all impurities float to the top and can be skimmed off. The issue is do you have the training to do it? If you do its just a messy job. I have watched some of the you tube videos and some of these guys are just silly stupid, and asking to get hurt, and may well burn more propane than the lead they recover is worth.. What you need to ask yourself is do i want to cast lead bullets and if you do you had better start stockpiling it. There are better ways to find lead than car batteries. Eventually it will not be availible to the public, unless you are willing to recover it yourself. There is a Blood level lead post on this forum that shows how silly things have become already. I worked my way through school as a plumber, we melted tons of lead, yes real tons, in closed buildings and crawl spaces. We used to carry hundreds of pounds everyday from where it was stored to where the pots were set up. The 4" hub and spigot pipe used would take about 4 lbs of lead per connection. Thousands of connections in even a small building and these were hospital and high schools. We worked lead pipes with our bare hands we carried 5 LB ladles full of molten lead through buildings in succession pouring the joints. I will garantee our blood lead levels far exceeded what you get from casting a few bullets or shooting lead bullets, even if you run though several hundred pounds a year, remember plumbers could easily work 100s of pounds of lead just to plumb a large house. Plumbers did way more than what you get a year in probably a week. But these blood levels will be used to scare people and eventually shut down private bullet casting and it will be done by restricting the publics acess to lead. A Quick check that usually follows heavy metal poisoning. white spots in your fingernails. I had these white spots all the time i worked as a plumber even after we stopped using so much lead. the leaded gasoline we washed parts in back then would cause the spots too. they are now gone. My bet is that if poor hungry children hadn't been eating paint chips that were flaking off their walls lead would still be a bigger part of our life. It isnt as dangerous as it is made out to be and the "safe" blood levels threasholds are probably really better clasified as "insignificant exposure". Yea its a poisonous metal but its like asbestos. It isn't as bad as its made out to be. For instance. Do you know anyone with asbestosis or mesotheoma? Most people might know of someone, but the next question you ask is did they smoke? Very few cases of either have occurred in non smokers. In fact the smoking wives of non smoking insulators have gotten the desease when their husbands that worked with it everyday did not. They suspect their only exposure was washing thier husbands clothes.
 
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