I'm getting leading everytime at the range. I'm shooting 44 mag with 7.7 grains of Titegroup behind a 240 grain Lee C249-240-SWC. I am not using a gas check even though the bullet is made for a gas check. Sized to .431. I'm shooting them in a Ruger Redhawk and a S&W Model 69 and coating them with Eastwood Ford Light Blue and Ford Dark Blue (one coat). I'm thinking that I need to put 2 coats of the powder coat on the bullets. Anyone have suggestions?
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edwardware
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I've never been able to get one coat of PC thick enough to work without getting clumpy. Try two lighter coats.
Also, Ruger is the french word for frame restriction. . . slug the barrel, check for a tight spot at the threads, and slug the cylinder throats for size.
Also, Ruger is the french word for frame restriction. . . slug the barrel, check for a tight spot at the threads, and slug the cylinder throats for size.
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Have you considered the possibility that this might be related?
Blue68f100
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May want to try a different powder that does not run quite so HOT as TG. TG scorches brass, not the best thing of lead bullets, jacketed OK.
CoalCrackerAl
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I stopped using tite group on cast bullets because of leading. With plated and jacketed it's fine.
Titegroup too hot ! Sometimes I wish I didn't read so much. So many variables.
I'm a Titegroup groupie . Ignorance is bliss but now I know it's too hot.
Now to say personally I've never had good results shooting a gas check bullet without the gas check.
PS. How many square feet will 7lbs of powder fertilize.
I'm a Titegroup groupie . Ignorance is bliss but now I know it's too hot.
Now to say personally I've never had good results shooting a gas check bullet without the gas check.
PS. How many square feet will 7lbs of powder fertilize.
GeoDudeFlorida
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All good ideas. Keep us updated please.
Arkansas Paul
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Either that, or get a mold to cast plain based bullets.
The most important thing to avoid leading is a proper fit. The base of the bullet must fit properly, or you get gas cutting, where the gases escape around the base of the bullet and cause leading. With a bullet made for a gas check, there isn't a proper seal due to the excess lead at the base that's made to accept the gas check.
I don't think there's anything wrong with the powder. Either install gas checks or use a bullet that isn't designed for them, and I bet your problem goes away.
Thanks for all of the suggestions! I'm going to try gas checks and look for a plain base 240 grain bullet and try it with Titegroup.
AJC1
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I think your best option is to shift to a plain base bullet and keep on keeping on. Gas checks get expensive, a new mold is a one time expense.
dump the titegroup, and make sure your bullets aren't undersized. Some LEE dies drop them small
one coat of Eastwood blue, shake n bake should be enough
Get a couple of pin gauges and check the throats, if they are undersized you can get leading, even with coated bullets.
Another thing to look at is bullet hardness, which might be too hard for the pressure.
Bullet fit to the throats/throats bigger than groove diameter, and hardness to pressure ratio is key to no leading, coating can only cure so much.
Another thing to look at is bullet hardness, which might be too hard for the pressure.
Bullet fit to the throats/throats bigger than groove diameter, and hardness to pressure ratio is key to no leading, coating can only cure so much.
MarshallDodge
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Ramshot Silhouette with lead bullets worked great for me in a 40 S&W. A friend shoots Silhouette with 147 grain lead bullets in 9mm, and has no leading.
AJC1
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I never met a 12bhn bullet that couldn't handle the pressure..... I've used a lot of my dad's store bought to harden plain lead and make good boolits.... swaged may be to soft for some applications, but cast is ready and up to the task....
FROGO207
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Agreed with this. You are only guessing until you measure your throats and barrel in a revolver. What works with jacketed and plated will fall apart with coated or lead if not sized to fit. Don't discount that you might have a barrel restriction where it screws into the frame. Slugging the barrel will find this problem as well.
ETA If you don't want to get pin guages just push an oversized bullet through each cylinder and measure the 6 results.
Agreed, but we don't know what BHN he has, could be too soft, more likely too hard.
