Learned a new BP lesson yesterday

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Well, I FINALLY got to go out to another CAS shoot with my Uberti 1858's yesterday.

They both shot like champs for the 3 morning stages. Then we packed all the guns up in the shed over the lunch break and came back and unpacked them for the afternoon. Now the day was on and off again sprinkles and it was humid as a heck all day with no breeze to speak of and lots of wet woods around the shooting pits.

First stage of the afternoon I had a "po'fizzle" on each of the guns. After the stage was done and the crowd moved on one of the RO's and I stayed behind and recapped and shot off the cylinders to see what was going on. One shot fine and the other went "po'fizzle" again but shot fine with the THIRD cap.

At first I thought the humidity had gotten to the caps. But you experienced BP revolver guys, especially the two characters that share the Pacific "NorthWET" region with me, likely already know what happened. Yep, the powder residue in the cylinders got damp and swelled or otherwise managed to block the nipples. I cleaned the nipples with a pipe cleaner (just BARELY fits through the Uberti nipples) and one nipple on each cylinder came out disgustingly black and goo'ey. Both guns shot just fine on the second and last stage of the afternoon.

So now I've got something else to watch out for with these. I'm learning as I go but the lessons are painful. Needless to say that the "po'fizzle" and resulting wait of around 10 seconds to see if the chamber would light off really hurt the old score.... not that I'm shooting to win all that much. If I was worried about winning I sure wouldn't be shooting C&B.... :D

So watch those wet days and clean out the nipples if you leave much time between shootings.

On a positive note the smoke clouds in the damp heavy air along with the lack of wind were intensely satisfying. At one point I had trouble even seeing the steel outlaws at 15feet for the return pass! ! !

I've also been shooting smokeless for my rifle and shottie rounds and was informed that to stay in Traditional Cartridge I'd need to eventually load up BP or Pyrodex for the rifle and shottie rounds. One of the guys shooting BP/Pyrodex on one stage had to duck and weave to find the thin spots so he could see the targets. That'll be moi aussi pretty soon... :D The guy that loads the BP shottie shells handed me a couple to try. The smoke cloud was "impressive" and I liked the softer hit to the shoulder as well.....:D

PS: I'm using a short wide mouth mason jar and lid for my field magazine. It was wet enough out there yesterday that I'm going to reactivate a small silica gel pack and toss it in and soak away any moisture that may have got to the powder. If I "dry" it this way do you see any issue with it for next time?

And I've secured a route for obtaining a supply of FFFg that should be fairly ongoing for the next couple or three years so I'm a happy shooter at the moment.
 
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Replace the mason jar with a proper powder flask...or get a dispensing cap for a powder can. The advantage of the latter is that you can use it for pouring powder charges, then put the regular cap back on the can to keep the powder dry.

As to drying powder, it can be done. Forget the dessicant packs, spread the powder on a board or other flat surface somewhere dry. You really can't afford damp powder.
 
I've got a flask but the tip is way too small for the charge needed for the .44. And it doesn't seem to have any way to change the tip for a larger one so I'm stuck for now with using a charge dipper and the easiest and fastest way to fill it is just dipping into a container with a wide mouth.

It's dry today. There's little enough left in the jar that I think I'll just open it, set it on the sill in the sun to warm it slightly and give it a stir with a popsicle stick each time I go past. That should dry 'er out well enough.
 
I had one of those days this past Spring. Wet and humid at the range, the BP went fitz, and the balls literally bounced down down the range, followed closely by flaming lube pills. Looked kinda cool actually, but it was busy at the range, so I just packed it in for the day to spare myself further embarrassment. Oh the shame!
 
Well, at least my powder went BANG when the cap, or rather the nipples, played along... :D

One of the guys told me about the time he left a flask of powder in his tool kit that had some rain water in it. He forgot about it for about two weeks. The powder had turned to a mucous like goo he said..... Must have been fun to try to clean out the flask... :D
 
If I am serious about a shoot I will nipple pick each flash hole after charging up for each stage. On RARE occasions I find the ball is not seated all the way OR I have dry balled a chamber (no crunch of powder grains when probed).

BC Rider: You going to Standoff at Smokey Point? It ain't very far south of you. It's this weekend! I'll be there.
 
I've got a flask but the tip is way too small for the charge needed for the .44. And it doesn't seem to have any way to change the tip for a larger one so I'm stuck for now with using a charge dipper and the easiest and fastest way to fill it is just dipping into a container with a wide mouth.

It's dry today. There's little enough left in the jar that I think I'll just open it, set it on the sill in the sun to warm it slightly and give it a stir with a popsicle stick each time I go past. That should dry 'er out well enough.


Hey BC:
Track Of The Wolf sells different sizes of spout for the colt and remington flasks.
 
BC

Powder measures are available too , which is the safest way to be charging your revolver anyways . You fill them with your flask , so it doesn't matter the size spout you have anyways . Our range will not let you charge your pistol from a Flask .

Jaeger
 
Not everyones in BP is in

a hurry , that's why we got into the sport, to slow down . Plus loading a hot revolver from a flask is this side of stupid , the wrong side .
If your loading off of a cylinder loading stand with flask , then thats a whole nuther animal . :D

Jaeger
 
Dippers, flasks, measures, bah! So 18th century . . .

There is only one way to measure powder accurately and quickly, the 19th century way! Now with 20th century materials! And presently sold in the 21st century!

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Clamped to a table behind the shooting line, I get it done fast and consistently! And you can too, assuming your range was built in the last 100 years and includes a reloading area behind the shooting lines . . .:neener:
 

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Yup... I like the slower pace of shooting BP... it's better for the accuracy of the gun anyhow.

I likes my little measure for loading. LOL Brought the loading stand a couple of weeks ago... and forgot to double check to see whether the Walker's cylinder would fit... it doesn't. :banghead: So... a slower pace to allow things to cool down a bit suited me just fine.

Sunday... I just had to shake my head as I watched all those people on the line... jack a round in... fire... jack another one in... fire... and continually tinkering with their scope to dial it in. Those barrels were probably way too hot to be consistently layin' 'em on target... and people are too quick to blame the rifle/scope for not bein' "on". I guess some folks don't even know about how your heartbeat will affect placement with a longer range shot... let alone "other" shooter input to each shot.
 
Now that's

just cheatin Ginormous ! :neener:

I guess I enjoy SLOW :D
It aint WAR , I aint in a hurry to reload either , and I don't shoot CASS .
I can't imagine robbing myself of the experince of loading the old fashioned way ? Or the right way as I see it :neener:
I wouldn't even let you on my range with that Space Shuttle Fuel Blender Margarita Mixer contraption :D , heck no :D

Jeger
 
Ya know, Ginormous ? I'd never even considered bringing a measure for a loader... "to the range". I likes it !! Next time I'm there... I'll have to inquire as to whether they allow it. Been wanting to get myself a reloader anywho... have all the dies and such for one already... just been usin' my buddy's reloader. Hmmm.... course... I doubt I'd do so... just one more thing to pack around and set up. :D
 
a hurry , that's why we got into the sport, to slow down . Plus loading a hot revolver from a flask is this side of stupid , the wrong side .
If your loading off of a cylinder loading stand with flask , then thats a whole nuther animal . :D

Jaeger

You're right DJ, you don't want to be pouring powder down a hot cylinder from a flask or any kind of container for that matter.

Ginormous; I've got one of those powder measurers. Pretty nifty.
 
Heh, gives me more time getting lead down range, which is what I really like to do.

However, when the need arises, as in impressing a new gal to the range, I can always load the old fashioned way, measuring one cylinder at a time, and flexing my manly muscles on the ol' loading lever. :D

Added for Ratdog: I'll never go without one from now on. My enjoyment of BP shooting has quadrupled because of easier more convenient and consistent reloads. And with 6gun4fun's loader, the first ball get seated with the same pressure as the last ball, removing one more variable that might affect accuracy.

BTW, an example of my manliness, muscle wise:

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Not just anyone can do THAT to a stout loader like the Triple-P! Nope, takes a real manly push to bend one of those. I have since replaced the bent rod with a steel part of the same diameter. Heh, now the cylinder may bulge if I don't watch myself. ;)
 
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Actually, I was loading my Walker when the sleeve bearing slipped, instantly binding the rod. I didn't notice, and kept on pressing thinking "dadgum, that's a seriously tight ball!" I stopped, stepped back and looked at the whole affair, and almost cried. Sucker was stuck!! Wrote 6gun4fun, and he said send it on in for warranty repair, that he'd even pay for the shipping to his place! But before I could wrap it and get it shipped off, I found a mild steel rod the correct diameter in my junk bin of stuff, and proceeded to fashion a seriously strong rod for it. That's how I roll, I guess.

And thumbs up to 6gun4fun and his EXCELLENT warranty offer!!
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Kewl... I'm still plannin' on gettin' one of his loading stands.... especially since it'll load the Walker's cylinder too.
 
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