Leaving the NRA, Jessie James really?

[CLP]

Really...?
Despite my having been a member since the 1960's an Instructor as well as volunteering at FNRA events.

Yes, because no one young knows or cares who you are. They're trying to get younger people to join. He can do way more to draw in new NRA members than you'll ever be able to do. Forget about how devoted or sincere you are- that's irrelevant. He's popular. Young people who are drawn to him will see him endorse the NRA, and hopefully many of them will join and give the NRA lots of money so they can go on continuing to stand up for the 2A.

Add'l: Never heard that this guy was racist. He builds motorcycles and was married to Sandra Bullock. OP, as for that picture, feel free to cast the first stone if you've never exercised poor judgement. I think Prince Harry was in a similar predicament. Also, a picture may be worth a thousand words but it doesn't necessarily tell the whole story and that could've been completely taken out of context.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Yo Mama Leaving the NRA, Jessie James really? Post #1

At Wikipedia, "Jessie James" takes me to the article on Jessica Rose James Decker, nickname Jessie James. I figured out it was Jesse James (customizer).

Misspelling the name off the bat makes me not want to take the criticism seriously.

Motorcycle (chopper) builder, but makes his money on biker themed clothes. Heavily into the bad biker image. He has been criticised for using "nazi" imagery (the West Coast Choppers logo is in the shape of the 1813 German Iron Cross). He has also been called "Satan". Wikipedia removed 2010 claims he was a "nazi scumbag" with the comment "blatantly a personal opinion" and same year removed vandalism of his article ("Adolf *******" in his info box and "Hitler" in his name): no editor has come back citing neutral reliable sources that he is nazi or racist. Or Beelzebub.

If anyone wants to play Jesse James (biker) as a race card against NRA, I'll trump that by playing Roy Innis (Congress of Racial Equality and NRA governing board).

 

[X-Rap]

Let's take this NAZI business to the next logical conclusion. Are those who collect, customize or use Mauser rifles or Luger pistols actually closet sympathisers? Same for all the lovers of the old red army stuff?

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[stchman]

Let's take this NAZI business to the next logical conclusion. Are those who collect, customize or use Mauser rifles or Luger pistols actually closet sympathisers? Same for all the lovers of the old red army stuff?

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Valid points. There are a LOT of people that collect old WWII Nazi stuff.

 

[Shanghai McCoy]

Yes, because no one young knows or cares who you are. They're trying to get younger people to join. He can do way more to draw in new NRA members than you'll ever be able to do. Forget about how devoted or sincere you are- that's irrelevant. He's popular. Young people who are drawn to him will see him endorse the NRA, and hopefully many of them will join and give the NRA lots of money so they can go on continuing to stand up for the 2A.

Add'l: Never heard that this guy was racist. He builds motorcycles and was married to Sandra Bullock. OP, as for that picture, feel free to cast the first stone if you've never exercised poor judgement. I think Prince Harry was in a similar predicament. Also, a picture may be worth a thousand words but it doesn't necessarily tell the whole story and that could've been completely taken out of context.

Thank you so much for declaring me irrelevant.

 

[buck460XVR]

If you like the Nuge you won't mind Jessie if you hate the Nuge you won't like Jessie.
The NRA needs to appeal to a wider base we hear so they need everyone from fuds to bikers and I think they are honestly getting the bases covered. Now they just need to find a famous pokyman geek.

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X-Rap summed it up very well. The NRA is using JJs "outlaw" image to make money and to increase awareness. I too think JJ is a poor choice for a role model, and is a complete world away from the average NRA member, but he is a fabulous artist and already has a line of woman's clothing. The NRA has nuttin' really to lose unless they gave him some cash up front. Love him or hate him, He really is not worth trashing your fellow gun owner over.

 

[DeepSouth]

I am so glad I have better things to do than worry about which celebrity (that I've never heard of) the NRA is joining up with, good luck to them. People seem to look for a reason to get upset with the NRA, and inevitably they will find one...not saying that's the case here, but it sure seems to happen a lot.

The term "a whole lot of nothing" comes to mind.

 

[3GunEric]

2nd A is on the chopping block - now is not time to bail.

 

[hso]

Yo Mama, you might want to dig deeper into this guy before making the decision that he's racist based on a picture (that to me is clearly spoofing).

 

[blarby]

Stop driving that wedge further. Stop splitting people down the middle and making a scene NRA. Unite people, unite gun owners...

*claps loudly, repeatedly*

 

[Yo Mama]

Yo Mama, you might want to dig deeper into this guy before making the decision that he's racist based on a picture (that to me is clearly spoofing).

Not sure I understand what you mean man?

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[Yo Mama]

The guys a.......flake! If you feel the need to ,leave (NRA)... have at it.

When your guns are confiscated remember you bailed because of some flake. J s/n.

In my opinion GOA looks more appetizing to actually stand the line. It doesn't mean either one of us are wrong, we just might choose to go about this in a different way. This James thing though is all it took for me to finally make my decision.

By the way I just looked and Gun Owners of America has 1.5 million members! That's a lot more than I thought they had, yes I understand the NRA has 4.5 million to 5 million.

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[FL-NC]

JJ has an exaggerated sense of his own significance. More people join than quit. He's not a unique snowflake. No more significant than if I had done the same thing, except that more people know who JJ is than me. Why anyone cares is beyond my grasp.

 

[dragon813gt]

He is no worse than Ted Nugent. At least Jessie didn't make himself the legal guardian of a 17yo woman because she was to young to marry. I've always thought Ted was a very poor choice even though I agree w/ his points. Hopefully Jessie is as well informed as Ted.

 

[CLP]

Thank you so much for declaring me irrelevant.

Don't take it personally- I have no doubt that I'm less relevant than you. But it's a smart strategy that the NRA needs to employ- get endorsements by pro-2A folks who can drawn in the next generation of supporters. In the past year, I've raised my NRA membership level to benefactor and have been able to get one other person to join the NRA. If several thousand or tens of thousands of people join because of this guy then kudos. Who else do they have lined up? Let's keep this ball rolling.

 

[barnbwt]

Wasn't there a question raised about this guy's legal possesor status when he got in gunsmithing a few years back, on account of a DV rap re: Mrs. Bullock?

Yeah, not really a man deserving of praise or recognition...

TCB

 

[Browning]

If you're worried about who the left wing media paints with the 'racist' and 'Neo-Nazi' brush and you're going to the Gun Owners of America you might want to google Larry Pratt. Estes Park, rubbing elbows with Christian Identity adherents, Ku Klux Klan, Aryan Nations, whole bit. He's got his very own SPLC entry and everything.

He's a staunch Christian and it's not like they were likely wearing sheets, uniforms or even name tags.

The point not being that Larry Pratt or Jessie James are racists or Nazi's (Neo or otherwise), but the media will portray people as it suits them, how it suits their cause and how it suits their superiors.

For the progressive crowd it goes something like ... The NRA are racists and nazi's, the GOA are racists and nazi's, the Republican Party are racists and nazi's, anyone who is against disarming America and destroying the Second Amendment is a racist and nazi, anyone not for open borders is a racist and nazi ... And on and on and on. Anyone who's the least bit on the right is a racist and nazi.

It's a tool that's been used for a long time, problem is they've overused it and now it's essentially lost its sting. Go where you will, but it's kind of stupid to leave an organization over a joke photo.

 

[Steel Horse Rider]

The NRA is a bureaucracy and the first rule of any bureaucracy is self preservation. Follow the money trail and you will find your answer. I quit the NRA about 8 years ago when they endorsed a progressive Democrat Representative in Colorado's third Congressional District because "she hadn't voted against any Second Amendment Bills yet" even though she had voted to keep Nancy Pelosi as the Speaker. (Not that the Rino's had been any better!) The type of tree is easily discerned by its fruit ,to steal a quote from a famous philosopher.....

 

[Bula]

I didn't realize this guy was still relevant?! Years ago he was chopping up golf carts and mopeds to add flamethrowers and circular saws. I doubt this marketing will do much negative to the NRA image. If he's Pro 2A, I don't need to like him. He's harmless. Doesn't change my mind at all about the NRA.

 

[Dazen]

This thread made me renew my membership for 5 year's. The NRA thanks you.

 

[Big7]

He's a nut-ball.

NRA won't keep him long.
Bet the egg money on that.

No reason to leave the NRA.. It's about all we have that
has the horse power to battle the left wing-nuts.

 

[CajunBass]

If I haven't left over Ted Nugent, this won't run me off.

 

[Walkalong]

None of us will ever agree with 100% of what the NRA does, but they are our most powerful ally for our gun rights, and the only reason we haven't lost them entirely before now.

 

[X-Rap]

I find the associations of board members like Grover Norquist much more objectionable than those of either James or Nugent but I'm not burning my membership like some so called pro gun politicians have in the past.

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[Carl N. Brown]

@walkalong Post 48: According to gun control advocates, the NRA is the only reason handguns (pistols and revolvers) were not included in the 1934 National Firearms Act as "gangster weapons" and subjected to the same NFA registration tax as machine guns, sawed-offs, and silencers (ref: Frank Zimring's history of the 1968GCA). Gun control advocates also blame the NRA for blocking FDR's dream of imposing a federal version of the NY Sullivan Act overiding all state constitutions (like Tennessee's) that protect the right of citizens to keep and bear arms for traditional lawful uses (ref: Adam Winkler's gun history). So that alone is justification for supporting NRA in my book.

@Yo mama Post 1: If Jesse James is such a evil "racist", why did Jamal Sharif Anderson, Shaquille O'Neal, and Ty Law have his West Coast Choppers (with that evil "nazi" iron cross logo) build their custom motorbikes? Jesse James customized bikes for footballers Anderson, O'Neal, and Law; musician Kid Rock, wrestler Bill Goldberg, actors Keanu Reeves and Tyson Beckford, and by extension James is "hot" or "cool" or "bad" (whichever means good these days) with their fan bases. Which, like Ted Nugent's fan base, are bigger than the man.