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Lee Turret Press-is it necessary to Chamfer and deburr w/ expander die?

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I have a Lee Turret press w/ lee dies that I reload 9mm and .45auto and am starting to wonder if I need to go through the steps of chamfering and deburring if I have an expander die to widen the case mouth to get the bullet to sit in the case and the crimper die which I believe insures the case is sized properly and of course crimps the bullet in place.
 
Yes, no, and it maybe. Hows that for a concise answer?

Yes, you can avoid the chamfering operation entirely with new or once fired HANDGUN cases. You simply adjust the belling die to open the mouth a little more.

No, if you have trimmed the case, then it's necessary to chamfer and de-burr the case mouth. But I haven't trimmed a handgun case for over 20 years.

Actually there's no maybe, you either do or don't.:evil:

The crimping station irons out the bell, then a tiny amount more to help hold the bullet.
 
So Snuffy if I do not ever trim the handgun cases but do reuse the cases more then once do you think I will still be ok skipping the chamfering and deburring? I guess my question is do you bother or bell out the case mouth a little extra?
 
I chamfer the first time I reuse range pickup pickup brass. From then on, it's 'mine' (I mark with a red sharpie), and I know it's been done already. Give them the eyeball in the loading tray just to make sure nothing funky is going on.
 
First lets differentiate between chamfering and deburring. A chamfer is an angle added to the inside of a case neck, also on the outside. It "breaks the sharp, square end of the neck. Deburring, is removing the burr created when trimming brass cases. The cutters used to trim brass, have a very small engagement angle to prevent them from grabbing or diving into the brass. Because of that, they don't cut very clean, raising a burr.

It happens on the inside and outside of the brass at the end of the neck. Failure to remove it,(the burr), would cause lots of problems. Bullets being seated would get damaged by the burr, and some brass shavings could end up inside the case. The outside of the neck would have that burr forced back by the sizer die, it could smear onto the outside of the neck.

For handgun brass I do NOT chamfer them either inside OR outside. Since I don't trim semi-auto brass, I don't deburr either.

I did once trim and deburr revolver brass. It was when I was active in handgun silhouette shooting. It's a long range shooting sport, so consistency was paramount. However, I did not chamfer them. You want the inside edge of the case mouth to have a square edge when crimping, it bites into the bullet cannelure better. Shooting a 44 revolver @ 200 yds, demands the utmost in consistency. And max charges of slow burning powder demands a heavy crimp.
 
I have a Lee Turret press w/ lee dies that I reload 9mm and .45auto and am starting to wonder if I need to go through the steps of chamfering and deburring if I have an expander die to widen the case mouth to get the bullet to sit in the case and the crimper die which I believe insures the case is sized properly and of course crimps the bullet in place.

As others have said, chamfering and deburring is usually only necessary after trimming.

Sometimes I chamfer handgun cases when I am loading with cast bullets. It breaks the inside edge of the case and reduces the case shaving lead from the bullet.

It is something that only needs to be done once as long as the case is not trimmed.

I haven't trimmed handgun brass in 30 years as long as you don't count forming 38/45 Clerke.
 
Seems to me that if the expander die is belling the case the chamfer is not even an issue. If the case is shaving lead expand just a touch more.

On rifle cases I chamfer only enough to take off the burr that forms inside the case mouth when trimming. I load only jacketed boat tailed bullets so that's all that's required for my needs.
 
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