Lefty carjacking response

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Just running through a thought experiment, and it seems like it would be near impossible to effectively employ a handgun with my strong hand while seated in the driver's seat.

A dedicated holster near the center console would at least make it easier to go weak side.

What have the southpaws here come up with?
 
yep as a lefty I have noticed that. maybe we should immigrate to England where the cars are more lefty friendly. Wait. never mind.
 
If you can get an older vehicle on a shooting range, it will be very helpful to work out what's best for you by firing at various targets while seated in the car. I did this in an anti-carjacking course in Johannesburg.
I found that if I keep the pistol under my weak-side leg and draw weak side too, I can cover the passenger side very quickly and the driver side reasonably quickly.
The problem is, if you are in the position where you are wanting to cover the driver side quickly, you already lost that engagement (at least in South Africa you have already lost).
It is a very bad situation to be in. The best planning is to avoid being inside an unarmoured stationary vehicle with an armed assailant approaching.
 
I have an elderly Jeep Grand Cherokee, and I've found that when traveling solo, it's best to stash the security blanket between the seat and the console. Keeps everything where it should be, and allows access with weak hand.

JWB
 
Just a thought, I practice weak side shooting enough to be confident at shooting (close range) with either hand.
 
If you are going to carry a handgun for self defense you should be able to hit what you are aiming at with either hand out to at least ten yards.

I'm a "lefty" but I carry my BUG for a right hand draw. I have used both the left and right hand in self defensive situations. In the vehicle I prefer ankle carry and move my J-Frame BUG from the right hand pocket to the left ankle, for a right hand draw.

Spend some time shooting one handed with just your support hand. Not all situations will allow you to get in to a proper stance.

Biker
 
My gun rides in my lap or on my leg.
I have had panhandlers walk up to my car (they ask for money) say nothing and walk away to another car.
 
I keep mine in the map pocket in the back of the passenger side seat. I can draw from there if necessary, but it remains hidden until I need it.
 
My thought is this.

Your armed with a 2,000 LB + vehicle. Keep your doors locked and if some stooge tries the handle drive away.

He'll either let go or get the 10 cent tour of your cars under carriage.
 
642 in the console, then in an IWB at 5 o'clock as a BUG to be drawn with my right hand. Sig 226 or Glock 22 at 9 o'clock as my primary. I'm pretty much ambidextrous when it comes to handguns. ;)
 
In a vehicle it seems to me that each one has a different sweet spot to keep your weapon. In my car the center console and the driver seat form a perfect little crevace to keep my .45. I can quickly draw it and engage anywhere I need to. If I was a lefty there doesn't seem to be any good way to ready my "WSD" (Weapon of singular destruction), so I would go weak handed if I were you. The distance you would engage would be pretty up close and personal most of the time anyway.

My buddy has a holster on his steering column. 2 times in one week he had someone he didn't know try to get into his car. One time this guy stuck his head and shoulders in the passenger side window. I would have given 3 months pay to see the look on his face when he came nose to bloody nose with a snubby .357 S&W.
 
From a shooting-only perspective what I found worked for me is the following:

Un-tuck your cover garment, letting it cover the seatbelt- much improved access. Likewise a more forward holster position 9:00 to 11:00 will also improve access.

When the time comes, lean slightly forward as needed & to the right to give you more room & this gets you away from the attacker. At this point you're in the drawing process & reaching for the seatbelt release if appropriate.

Rotate shoulders to square yourself to target, lean back as appropriate with gun anywhere from retention to extended again, as appropriate & shoot as needed.

This will help keep the gun & you away from the attacker, allow faster access & as you turn your legs will want to rotate toward the door so you can "help" the badguy open the door and/or kick the snot out of him/her (gotta be PC). Just be careful of your piggies getting in the way of your bullets.

I've toyed with the idea of mounting a car holster, but that creates issues of security if you leave it in the car & being seen transitioning from car holster to body holster as well as additional training to master two separate gun locations that may/may not be appropriate depending on vehicle occupants, etc...
 
In the first place, how are you perceiving a threat? At sixty mph or more, anyone who can open the door or climb in the window can have my car as a gift. In traffic, the doors are locked, the windows are up, how does someone outside present a threat? The only time this has happened to me, an escaped prisoner in Orange California ran into the street and demanded my car as I sat at a blvd. stop sign. I opened the door, (old VW bug) and stepped carefully out of the way so he could get in the car. When he began lowering himself into the seat, I slammed the door on his head, grabbed a handful of hair and jerked him prone face down on the street and THEN and only then pulled my CCW and jammed it in his ear. A few seconds later I was joined by the City of Orange Californias' finest and the heart rate started back down to normal. In reviewing all my choices, window down, knife in his hand, I am sure to this day that I did the right thing. I got out of my cage to where I could move around, waited for the opportunity to inflict instant and severe trauma to the perp and then neutralized him. Had I gone for my gun in that VW I probably would have been cut badly and might even have lost my weapon to the bg.
 
Doors locked, windows up (or at least up enough that someone can't reach in.
If for some reason I can't move the vehicle and someone wants me out of the car then the right hand would release the seatbelt and then reach across to pull the door handle. Interestingly enough that "twist" of the torso brings my southpaw right to the grip at my waist (9:00 position).

Not a perfect solution but one I've practiced and it works reasonably smoothly. (God forbid I ever have to actually run the scenario for real).
 
1. Use the vehicle.
2. weak side draw (practice)
3. Knife work.
4. Tactical back seat passenger.
 
In the first place, how are you perceiving a threat? At sixty mph or more, anyone who can open the door or climb in the window can have my car as a gift. In traffic, the doors are locked, the windows are up, how does someone outside present a threat? The only time this has happened to me, an escaped prisoner in Orange California ran into the street and demanded my car as I sat at a blvd. stop sign. I opened the door, (old VW bug) and stepped carefully out of the way so he could get in the car. When he began lowering himself into the seat, I slammed the door on his head, grabbed a handful of hair and jerked him prone face down on the street and THEN and only then pulled my CCW and jammed it in his ear. A few seconds later I was joined by the City of Orange Californias' finest and the heart rate started back down to normal. In reviewing all my choices, window down, knife in his hand, I am sure to this day that I did the right thing. I got out of my cage to where I could move around, waited for the opportunity to inflict instant and severe trauma to the perp and then neutralized him. Had I gone for my gun in that VW I probably would have been cut badly and might even have lost my weapon to the bg.
In danger of causing thread veer....but how did "Orange County's finest" react to that one?

Oh, and for the original poster.
If you find yourself in a jam you can't get out of, the bad guy's already got the drop on you.
Obviously the first defense is that fact that your vehicle is big, and mobile. Even being boxed in isn't a death sentance. Your vehicle will push another immobile vehicle. Aim for the corners. Do not hit another vehicle dead on, unless you're driving a real tank :neener:
If you've lost that advantage, the next question is, how can you employ your weapon without getting shot in the side of the head or knifed or beaten? If the answer is no, well then, comply for the moment and wait for the BG to make a mistake.
 
If you've lost that advantage, the next question is, how can you employ your weapon without getting shot in the side of the head or knifed or beaten? If the answer is no, well then, comply for the moment and wait for the BG to make a mistake.

Good point. I agree, because if they had wanted to knife you they probably would have done it when they had the drop on you. So play along till you see the oportunity to kick em or shoot em in the junk.

Had I gone for my gun in that VW I probably would have been cut badly and might even have lost my weapon to the bg.

If I ever try to jack your car, I am definately gonna knife you first.:neener:
I can't imagine the headache that poor fool had.
 
"Just a thought, I practice weak side shooting enough to be confident at shooting (close range) with either hand."

Agreed... you should do this for many reasons. What are you going to do if you have to shoot around the right side of a corner? I try to practice with my weak hand half of the time. It is currently at about 90% of my strong side. Still need more work.
 
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...England where the cars are more lefty friendly.
Seriously though, practice RT handed, or buy a RT hand drive car... one of the two has got to be cheaper.

Well Borat got his ex-mail truck for $500 or so... the way ammo's been lately, its closer than you'd think. ;-)
 
Either in a left handed car, being left handed or in a right hand drive, being right handed, as far as a prep coming at you in the drivers window has the advantage.

Only option would be to learn to use the lesser of the two hands... and gun in center console. IMHO... or Kevlar door panels and bullet resistant windows.
 
I have an elderly Jeep Grand Cherokee, and I've found that when traveling solo, it's best to stash the security blanket between the seat and the console. Keeps everything where it should be, and allows access with weak hand.
Just be careful that in case of a mild to moderate collision (e.g., a situation that starts with a staged collision, fender-bender, hitting a curb, etc.) that the weapon stays put. Otherwise, you have very effectively disarmed yourself, as at least two FBI agents found out the hard way in the 1986 Miami shootout.

One thing to keep in mind also is that in many conceivable situations, the vehicle itself may be your first line of defense (i.e. the Michelin defense), or even the primary weapon, depending on circumstances.
 
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