Legendary guns and guns that have a "cult" following

[Curator]

Rcmodel--nicely done!

Glock owners are not a cult, they're usually just convinced that Glocks are perfect and if you don't like Glocks you are an idiot. Since becoming a Glock owner, I have resisted total seduction. I am however, a card carrying member of the Lee Enfield cult which I blame on indoctrination as a youth in Canada. Happly the only cure is buying other guns.

 

[lowerunit411]

When i started this thread i really thought there would be more post about sporting guns...example...the model 12 winchester is certainly a legend in my book...cult gun..dunno,but there are incredible sporting arms, and utility arms that meet all of this criteria.

 

[JohnBT]

Model 12 = legendary. I grew up around one. My father bought a 20 ga. in the '50s.

Winchester SX-1 = legendary cult gun. I have a field model.

 

[JohnBT]

Shouldn't a cult be sort of small? You know, like collectors of left-handed Randall 1911s.

 

[2 Wild Dueces]

Winchester Low Wall / High Wall.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

This is called reification -- the idea that words are reality, and that we can learn something if we can only define the words.

A legend is whatever we asy is a legend, a cult is whatever we say is a cult -- the two terms are intechangeable.

 

[lowerunit411]

Vern, i disagree, i do not think the words are interchangeable.

 

[VT Deer Hunter]

ak-47, mosin nagant, springfield 03, m1 garand, k98, those are cult guns and legends its all just the same to me

Was going to say Mosin Nagant but ya bet me to it. And its a big cult gun. I have one and am working on making it my long range gun. And hope to shoot 1,000 yards one day!!!! And i am going to say the Remington 700 could be check my Remi 700 club below.

 

[KodiakBeer]

The lead character Rodiya Rastolnikov translates to "Rodiya son of the Old Believer".

Actually, "son of" ends with a "vitch" or an "ovna" depending on whether it's a boy or girl, and those would apply to the middle name. All sons of a man named Alexander have the middle name of Alexandrovitch, while girls middle names would be "Alexandovna", though if your first name is Alexander, everyone will call you "Sasha" just to confuse foreigners.

 

[CZguy]

Well, it's a darn small cult, but about fifteen of us really like the Steyr M series.

 

[Trent]

Priced an M38 or M44 lately?

Actually, no I hadn't. But since I've looked, I really want to cry.

We ordered them in in batches of 20 when I had my shop, they went like candy at gun shows... our cost was typically $45 ea for non-select, $65ish for hand select.

I should have checked prices before. I had three left in my gun cabinet which I took in to my personal collection when I closed down the shop. Over the last year I sold two of them for $100 ea. Looks like I left quite a bit of money sitting on the table.

I never expected them to go up THAT fast. Jeez.

 

[sugarmaker]

Nothing says I love you like as '97 riot gun- it just looks raw. Germans wanted to have '97's banned by geneva convention.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

Nothing says I love you like as '97 riot gun- it just looks raw. Germans wanted to have '97's banned by geneva convention.

That's the Hague Convention, and it was shotguns in general, not just the Model '97.

And the Germans were hardly in a position to object to violations of the Hague Convention, since they were the ones who introduced poison gas.

 

[MikeNice]

I would say CZ is a bit of a cult manufacturer. Every board I visit has a CZ Kool Aid, CZ Club, or Show Us Your CZs thread. Many of them are literally a couple of dozen pages long.

 

[Trent]

And the Germans were hardly in a position to object to violations of the Hague Convention, since they were the ones who introduced poison gas.

Yeah, but everyone took part in that game, in short order.

 

[Derry 1946]

Colt's Detective Special.

It's a cult gun in that it showed up in a lot of detective stories and police novels, and has been in a number of movies. There is a bit of a collectors' cultism around the better or older examples, as well.

In the real world it has a generally good reputation, which may not amount to legendary status. It was widely used (or carried) by law enforcement folks. I suppose it's a semi-legend simply as one of the better guns of its era.

+1. DS is a true classic.

 

[CZguy]

Originally posted by, MikeNice.

I would say CZ is a bit of a cult manufacturer. Every board I visit has a CZ Kool Aid, CZ Club, or Show Us Your CZs thread. Many of them are literally a couple of dozen pages long.

That's because it's really good Kool Aid.

Originally posted by, Vern Humphrey.

And the Germans were hardly in a position to object to violations of the Hague Convention, since they were the ones who introduced poison gas.

And the British introduced tanks. The name of the game in war is to kill as many of the enemy as you can, as fast as you can. After all the victor gets to write the history books.

 

[GlockFan]

I would say CZ is a bit of a cult manufacturer. Every board I visit has a CZ Kool Aid, CZ Club, or Show Us Your CZs thread. Many of them are literally a couple of dozen pages long.

 

[MikeNice]

That's because it's really good Kool Aid.

I agree completely. There are only two things stopping me from buying a PCR.

1. They are always out of stock, everywhere.
2. My CZ customer service experience has been iffy. It might go better if I was actually awake when they are open. As it stands I am usually asleep or getting ready for work and can't call them. So, al of my interactions with them have been through e-mail.

I still believe they should offer to pay shipping up front though. I shouldn't have to pay shipping on a gun that is having major issues. I also shouldn't have to ask repeatedly if they will cover shipping.

 

[Trent]

And the British introduced tanks. The name of the game in war is to kill as many of the enemy as you can, as fast as you can. After all the victor gets to write the history books.

The Germans introduced poison gas (invented by the French), the British introduced tanks (first self-propelled mobile gun platform was invented by the French, and dumped). Then the United States invented the atomic bomb, using Uranium (first discovered by a French scientist).

You know, those French, they're downright dangerous folks.

 

[Fishslayer]

A cult requires sacrifice so should a cult gun either in alienation of oneself or in very high prices.

Ever fired an x54R carbine? You'll KNOW where the sacrifice lies!

 

[InkEd]

When I read the title of the thread my very first responses were...

Colt 1911A1 is a legendary gun.

H&K P7 has a cult following.

There are plenty of others in both categories but those two are pretty much agreed upon by everyone. Also, alot of people see the word "cult" and attach negative feelings toward it. This is understandable because of it's most common use when talking about fanatic groups (often religious) BUT it is just a word meaning a small loyal group with a shared interest or belief in something. What they share an interest or belief is the thing that can be perceived as good or bad by society.

Everything from certain cars to belief systems have "cult followings," it doesn't always mean it's a bad thing. Saab (owners) are bit of an automobile cult. Early Christians were considered by many to be a religious cult. It turns out that neither of them are really bad or dangerous; just a little different than the mainstream of the time.

I own a Springfield Armory XD9. The XD platform (while gaining popularity) still has somewhat of a cult following compared to the Glock and M&P platform. Why? Simply because it's a little different (grip safety being the big thing) and has some advantages (and disadvantages) over similar weapons. There's nothing really bad/evil about it. It's just a good polymer pistol. Just not as widely popular as the others in it's category.

Just sayin' don't be offended by a word (e.g. "cult") because it's just a word. I had a etymology teacher in school that said, "There's no such thing as a bad word. It's just the way people use it."

(If you disagree, think of all the ways to use the F word. Point proven.)

 

[Montenegrin]

Legendary guns:
Colt SAA (and Colt 1851 too)
M1911(in both categories)
Winchester 1873
Sharps rifle
''Brown Bess'' musket (anyone mentioned it?)


And 'cult' guns :
1911
xd/xdm
AK47
Glock
Mosin Nagant
Colt Detective Special
All kinds of S&W revolvers
M-16

 

[leadchucker]

S&W model 29. "Go ahead, Make my day."

 

[CONNEX 3300]

Unless I missed something the S&W 29 only got mentioned twice. C'mon guys. Back when Dirty Harry was at his peak that gun was a legend in and of itself. Back in the day it definately had a cult following. I see two reasons that is no longer the case. The folks who bought them because they were cool shot them a half dozen times and then sold it for something with less recoil. The dedicated shooters moved on to the bigger guns; 454 casull, 500 wyoming, 460 and 500 smith and wesson. Still a lot of fans though.