trackskippy
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Well, if thats the case, their listed weight must REALLY be suspect! Or sucking that gut in makes them taller.
As I said earlier, I cannot put the butt into my shoulder and get a cheek weld. I mean normal mounting, I've been a shooter all of my life. The gun feels like a toy sized for a child. Even if I put the toe into the upper part of my shoulder, so I can get a cheek weld, my eye is still too high to line up with the sights. It's also a drop-at-comb and drop-at-heel issue, there isn't enough of either (which is one of the reasons why I got rid of my Ruger mini-30, and other guns).Ive never seen a "factory" stock with an LOP anywhere near that long. Even the current factory stocks with a recoil pad are right around 13" "without" the pad and around 14" with it.
Im having a hard time picturing what youre saying here on how you're shouldering the gun too. When the rifle is in your shoulder, is your head down on the stock and your cheek weld right there where the comb breaks into the grip? Why are you holding the rear of the stock up so high?
No, actually, I found that nearly everyone, men and women both, is honest about his weight (to the extent that I could estimate weights visually). And women are honest about their heights. And men who actually are 6' tall or taller usually are honest about their heights, as well as very short men. It was men who were between, say, 5'5" and 5'11" (which is the bulk of them) who exaggerated.Well, if thats the case, their listed weight must REALLY be suspect! Or sucking that gut in makes them taller.
i knew basketball players did, I didn't know run of the mill guys did too. that's funny.By the way, as an aside here, one thing I learned during my tenure as a sales clerk at Bud's (after looking at one form 4473 after another all day long), was that most men who are under 6' in height, exaggerate their heights by 2 or 3 inches when they self-report. Most men are not as tall as they claim to be. And by "most", I mean something like 95%. That was a real surprise to me.
Yeah but...you missed my point. I guarantee there were thousands of fighting personnel that used the M1 carbine effectively who had the same body dimensions as you.I cannot seat the butt into my shoulder and align the sights with my eye. The only way I can make the alignment is to hold the rifle a couple of inches out in front of me! The issue isn't only length of pull, it's also drop-at-heel. The gun was designed to fit someone who was about 5'4" tall, and I guess back then, a lot of men were. But people are taller nowadays.
My wife is about 5'2" or 5'3", so the gun will fit her, and I hope to use it to train her in shooting. I don't plan to alter the stock permanently, I just want to shoot about 200 rounds through it so I can have the brass for reloading.
No, they aren't! They're all too short!
A good length of pull for me is 15" to 15 1/4", depending upon grip configuration, for a shotgun. I can make do with a little less on a rifle, but not with a 13" stock.
I have figured it out. I have arranged a number of my firearms to have lengths-of-pull in that range, and they fit me quite comfortably (at least, those with sufficient drop do).There's no way. I'm over 6 foot with long gorilla arms and not only can I shoulder an M1 Carbine just fine, but I can collapse an AR stock all the way down and run the charging handle right into my nose and shoot that way.
I submit that you have more of a issue with being able to properly rotate your shoulder to lift the gun up to your face, and you're therefore probably bringing your face down to the stock. I would be surprised if a longer stock is the answer your problem, but good luck figuring it out.
I have arranged a number of my firearms to have lengths-of-pull in that range, and they fit me quite comfortably (at least, those with sufficient drop do).
Here is a good metric to estimate you proper length of pull: with your shooting arm down at your side, raise your forearm up to make a 90-degree bend, palm upwards. Take a yardstick and insert one end into the inside bend of your elbow. Measure the length to the first (distal) joint of your index finger. That length will approximate correct length-of-pull for most normally proportioned adults, for shotguns. Subtract 1/4" for rifles.
I just did this. The distance was 15 3/8". (By the way, I take a 35" sleeve, and am broad-shouldered.)
We always just held the butt of the gun in the crook of our arm and if the trigger finger fell on the trigger, it was considered a shoulderable/shootable rifle. It was just a rough estimate/gauge sort of thing, and not any kind of gospel.I have figured it out. I have arranged a number of my firearms to have lengths-of-pull in that range, and they fit me quite comfortably (at least, those with sufficient drop do).
Here is a good metric to estimate your proper length of pull: with your shooting arm down at your side, raise your forearm up to make a 90-degree bend, palm upwards. Take a yardstick and insert one end into the inside bend of your elbow. Measure the length to the first (distal) joint of your index finger. That length will approximate correct length-of-pull for most normally proportioned adults, for shotguns. Subtract 1/4" for rifles.
I just did this. The distance was 15 3/8". (By the way, I take a 35" sleeve, and am broad-shouldered.)