Lets break it down (firearms laws you support)

[HOME DEPOT GEORGE]

Check all that you support

 

[PT1911]

I certainly would if I had any idea what you were talking about...

 

[HOME DEPOT GEORGE]

sorry it took a while to put this together I'm just curious what the numbers would be. I think I got everything included

 

[HOME DEPOT GEORGE]

I chose not to include any truly assnine laws like misdemeanor charges although I did forget about clinically/criminally insane

 

[HOME DEPOT GEORGE]

mods can you please correct my spelling in the title,thanks

 

[psyopspec]

Same restrictions for 2A as for other amendments, such as voting. No felons, no prisoners, no minors. So I can't vote "no restrictions" but I don't think there should be any unique to firearms. To elaborate a bit on felons, if we can't trust them with a gun, we ought not trust them to be in society at all.

 

[JohnBT]

"instant backround check for all firearms purchases"

Really instant or just when it suits the operators?



"about clinically/criminally insane"

There's no law prohibiting the possession of guns by the clinically insane. That's just a diagnosis, not a legal finding.

John

 

[Bill2e]

Don't shoot anything you are not willing to & legelly allowed to detroy.

Done.

 

[Macmac]

At 57 years old I have been NICSed enough... I wish it could be get NICSed once every 5 or 10 years like the CCW is, and no hassels there after..

And for FREE..

In NH even with a CCW you must pass NICS every buy, but it is free. The CCW here is 10 bucks and good for 5 years, but it isn't good in all 50 states. Or a Free ID card, National, good in all 50 states... All this means is you ain't no felon...

I think for full auto you should get training ONCE, and then buy like any other gun...

I think felons should be able to restore their rights, but not violent felons.

Sex crimes with no gun, should have no effect on a gun, and once that type of felon has paid the price for the crime he should be able to have a gun..

Use that gun in a crime and you get dead in public, by hanging..

 

[sm]

No restrictions whatsoever

 

[tasco 74]

voted on it..... SM might have the right idea in a way.... if a thug wants a gun he CAN always get it.................

 

[WardenWolf]

What do I support?

The original NFA. Machine guns need to have reasonable restrictions. They're the only weapons that don't have to be aimed at a specific target to be effective. You just have to point in the general direction and spray, and you can hit multiple targets. Plus the fact that such weapons are a prime target for criminals who would steal and then abuse them, so it's really not something you want hanging on the wall at most gun shops. Accessibility needs to be restricted, but anyone who passes their background check should be able to purchase a new one direct to the factory.

No firearms for any felons: Sorry, but I don't see any reason why someone who has committed a major crime should be allowed to own firearms. At the core of all crime is someone acting irresponsibly. If they acted irresponsibly enough to warrant a felony conviction, you cannot trust them to act responsibly with a firearm.

No firearms for sex offenders: As long as the courts don't go crazy like they did for a few years and label a high school kid who has sex with his school sweetheart an offender, I emphatically support this. Call these people what they are: predators. If you've preyed on other people, if you attempt to do so in the future you will do so without a gun to enforce your will, at the risk your would-be prey exercises her right to self-defense and right to bear arms and shoots you down like the dog you are.

Instant background checks. They do sometimes work and don't create a real hassle. Usually by the time you've finished inspecting the gun for problems.

 

[Officers'Wife]

None whatsoever, the basis of violence is intent. No law, no regulation can effect the intent and unlawful violence has it's own laws and regulation. Considering that on the norm the firearm is a lessor charge the state rarely prosecutes anyway.

 

[heron]

No for felons and illegal aliens.
Does "instant background check" apply to ALL sales, or just from a dealer? Might be taken to restrict FTF sales, in which case, no.

 

[PotatoJudge]

Surprised to see we're putting illegal aliens about the same place as violent felons. There's no comparing the two in my mind, especially when it comes to God given rights.

 

[blkbrd666]

I think I got everything included

No, you left off the one where every free citizen is required to own at least one handgun and one long gun.

 

[JTW Jr.]

The original NFA. Machine guns need to have reasonable restrictions. They're the only weapons that don't have to be aimed at a specific target to be effective. You just have to point in the general direction and spray, and you can hit multiple targets.

I have to ask , exactly what full auto firearms have you fired and been able to accomplish this with ?
Perhaps you are under the impression the 12 gauge is another " non aiming firearm " as well ?
You should really start shooting some competitions , cause I can tell you , the ol' sweepin spray and pray doesn't work like you see it on tv.

Go to Knob Creek , Wikieup AZ ( close by you perhaps ) ,or any other subgun/machinegun match and see for your self. ( In Vegas ours is the 2nd Sunday of every month except July & Aug ).

 

[BhmBill]

I prefer freedom, so I picked the last choice.

Machine guns need to have reasonable restrictions. They're the only weapons that don't have to be aimed at a specific target to be effective. You just have to point in the general direction and spray, and you can hit multiple targets.

Like that one kind of gun... uhhhh... it starts with "shot".... I can't remember what it is

 

[Kind of Blued]

"No guns for individuals who are currently incarcerated".

That's it.

That's more of a prison/jail policy, but I would have no scruples with a law which mandates it as a prison/jail policy.

Negligently discharging a firearm should be illegal, but it wouldn't be a "gun law" per se, it would be "reckless endangerment" regardless of the tool.

I also support a statute such as one barring the discharge of any "loud" firearm after a certain hour, or in proximity to residences, but that would be a "noise ordinance" not a "gun law".

 

[sm]

Which kind of gun owner are you?

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/6641

Which kind of gun owner are you?

Submitted by cbaus on Fri, 04/24/2009 - 00:10.

* Gun Rights Groups
* Sports and Hunting

By Steven Loos

Having spent a fair amount of my impressionable years shooting alongside my WW2 veteran grandfather, I was fortunate to have been taught early on the great responsibility that owning a firearm brings.

As far back as I can recall I have always understood owning a firearm had a deeper meaning. Later in life, and much to my surprise, I would come to understand that not all owners share this belief.

During Ohioans' struggle to pass common-sense concealed carry legislation, I had the good fortune to join in the fight as a volunteer. While continuing the good work of defending the Second Amendment alongside incredibly dedicated activists, I have interacted with many firearm owners.

Gun owners come from all walks of life. We may be politician, police officer or plumber. Statistically we are the most law-abiding segment of society. Interestingly, among the gun owning public, I've encountered three distinct kinds of gun owners. Although there are variations in each subset, what follows is in my opinion the general categories that most gun owners fall into:

* The Casual Gun Owner
* The Belligerent Gun Owner
* The Dedicated Defender of Gun Rights

First, let's examine the Casual Gun Owner. Perhaps a majority of the estimated 80 million plus American gun owners fall into this group. Akin to the previously spotlighted apathetic gun owner, the Casual Gun Owner looks upon the firearm as simply a tool or object they own, not unlike a motorcycle or a set of golf clubs.

While this person may own one or several firearms, they might own a firearm for self defense or for hunting. To this person, the gun is a mere inanimate possession which they may hide the existence of from disapproving friends.

To the Casual Gun Owner their firearm has no deeper meaning or significance. He will support bans on modern semi-auto rifles or tightening regulations of handguns because it doesn't effect his sport. He may even join the NRA, and figure that's doing his part. However the moment owning a firearm becomes a burden or an inconvenience, the Casual Gun Owner will obediently turn them in. The powers-that-be need only demand them to do so.

Next up to bat is the Belligerent Gun Owner. These are the hot heads of the gun ownership demographic, who are more than happy to criticize others for not doing enough, while proclaiming at the top of their lungs their steadfast dedication and support to the cause of Second Amendment rights. They indeed talk the talk.

Typically the Belligerent Gun Owner spends his time complaining about the status quo, they are quick to attack the NRA or call others making progress "incrementalists", using the term like a dirty word. These folks often suffer from the "I got mine" mentality (i.e. "I've bought all the guns I need or want so I'm not worried about future anti-gun laws passing.") The Belligerent Gun Owner lavishes in pontificating on Internet forums, yet cannot be bothered to show up to hold a banner at a rally, write a letter to lawmakers or man a table at the gun shows.

One can often find Belligerent Gun Owner at the range telling others how it's done. On the rare occasion the Belligerent Gun Owner does get off of his couch and puts his foot in the door, he typically burns bridges with law-makers with his bombastic nature, shedding a bad light on all gun ownership. This individual can and does cause the most damage in the struggle to protect our ever disappearing liberties. He is the anti-gunners' poster boy.

Finally, we have arrived at the Dedicated Defender of Gun Rights. He may be a high-powered shooter at Camp Perry. She may be a concealed handgun license-holder. They may be sportsmen. What shooting activity they participate in is of no particular importance. The Dedicated Defender of Gun Rights works diligently with the knowledge the Second Amendment is constantly under attack. Having the understanding that our rights were chipped away over the decades, the Defender takes heart in the knowledge that she may not obtain the ultimate goal of total repeal of the unconstitutional infringements in one fell swoop. Yet he believes if we continue working, keep persisting, eventually gun rights will be restored to their rightful, tantamount position.

The Dedicated Defender of Gun Rights is who we have to thank for carrying the banner. They live the life and understand the deeper meaning of firearms ownership. Not only do firearms hold a pivotal place in American history, a tangible cultural significance, but greater still is their understanding that the Second Amendment is the lynch pin of our American liberties.

As any true believer worth his salt knows, the Second Amendment doesn't say anything about hunting. I'm happy for you if you are a sportsman, but that just isn't what it's about. The Dedicated Defender of Gun Rights will join grassroots groups, write letters to law-makers and attend legislative hearings. She will politely speak up when uninformed acquaintances regurgitate the anti-gun sound bites from the late-night news shows. He will not feel content in sending his yearly dues to the NRA, but he will work to be an informed voter, and he will donate his time to train new shooters. What sets this person apart from the Casual Gun Owner is a passion to defend our rights for the next generation.

Take a moment to reflect. If you're reading this article and visiting this website, I assume you are an informed Dedicated Defender of Gun Rights. If you fall into the other camps or know someone that does, please look inside and ask yourself, what do you believe?

During these uncertain times, when the barbarians are at the gates, I ask: Which kind of gun owner are you?



Steven Loos is a Buckeye Firearms Association Central Ohio Region Leader.

 

[BhmBill]

<<< Dedicated Defender of Gun Rights

 

[freakshow10mm]

Any free citizen should be able to own and purchase a firearm without any restrictions. If they shouldn't be allowed to have a gun, they shouldn't be in public. Foreigners should only be allowed to possess a firearm if they are hunting or competing in the US.

 

[sm]

'Metal and Wood"

http://www.thefiringline.com/Misc/library/Metal_and_Wood.html

"Metal and Wood"
by Dennis Bateman

The following essay was originally published at www.TheFiringLine.com

It is a rare person who does not attach some sort of value or emotion to some physical object or to an event. A home becomes more than a building. A statue of the Virgin Mary, a crucifix, a flag or a song, or even a photograph can stir emotions greater than the value of the material item.

I have a piece of paper showing I served in the military until I was discharged honorably. But, oh, the memories that piece of paper conjures up. The friends, the fun times. The bad times. The times when we were bound closer to strangers than to our own families and, in frightening chaos, our lives hung by a thread.

Many of our friends died far from home. Ask us about the feeling of "American soil" upon returning to the land we loved. Ask those returning soldiers about America.

Remember the old, faintly humorous band of American Legionnaires, wearing out-dated military uniforms straining at the buttons. But, God how proudly they marched. Grinning, waving to friends and families, and always, always "The Flag!" Ask them if the flag is mere cloth, I dare you.

See the elderly lady sitting in a lawn chair watching the fourth of July parade. Three flags carefully folded some forty years ago into triangles now rest in her lap - one for each lost son. Ask her if those flags are mere cloth, I dare you.

Look at the old man quietly crying, leaning against the Iwo Jiima Memorial at Arlington Cemetery. As he turns to you, smiles with some embarrassment, and says in a choked whisper, "I was there." Ask him, "Is it just metal and clay?" Ask him. I dare you.

The Wall. My God, the Wall. See the young man lightly tracing the name of his father there inscribed. Ask him if its just rock. Ask him. I dare you.

My guns? They’re of little real value compared to my family and my home. They are toys, or tools, or both. But what those guns represent to me is greater than all of us, greater than myself, my family, indeed greater than our entire generation. What could be of such value?

The freedom of man to live within civil, self-imposed limitations rather than under restrictions placed upon him by a ruler or a ruling class.

Imagine the daring, the bravery of a few men to declare they intended to create a new country, independent of the burden of their established Rulers!

Those men we call our forefathers were brilliant men. They could have maneuvered themselves into positions of influence within the structure of the times, but they did not. They struggled to free themselves from tyranny. They wrote the Declaration of Independence. And they backed up their words and ideals with metal and wood.

They knew the dangers of such dreams and actions. They knew it was a frightening and dangerous venture into the unknown when they dared reach beyond their grasp for a vision - for an ideal. But they dared to dedicate themselves to achieve Liberty and Freedom for their children, and their children’s children, through the generations.

Imagine the dreams and yearnings of centuries finally being reduced to the written word. The Rights of "We the People!" instead of the "Powers of the Monarchy."

Our forefathers dared to create a new government - a new form of government. And they knew that any organization has, as its first and foremost goal, its continued existence. Second only to that it strives to increase its power. It plots, it devises, it maneuvers to achieve control over its environment - over its subjects.

Our Forefathers decided to make America different from any country, anywhere, at any time in the entire history of the entire world. This country, this new nation of immigrants, would be based upon the concept that people could rule themselves better than any single person or small group of persons could rule them.

Other countries have had outstanding documents with guarantees for its citizens - but the citizens have become enslaved. How, these great men pondered, can we ensure this new government will remain subject to the will of the People?

They wanted limits upon this new government. Therefore, our forefathers wrote limitations into the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. And one of those Rights was that metal and wood, as the final power of the people, would secure this country for the future generations.

Metal and wood were the means by which we won our freedom.

Metal and wood were the means by which we kept our freedom.

Metal and wood may be the means by which we regain our freedom.

Metal and wood are the final power of the people. Take away the metal and wood and the people become powerless - they can only beg, they supplicate for favors.

We are unique in our ability to rule ourselves but we are letting it slip away. Today we compromise. We try to appease man’s insatiable appetite for power by throwing him bits of our freedoms. But the insatiable appetite for power can not be appeased. The freedoms we feed him only make us weaker and him stronger. We must conquer him and again ensure the "Blessings of Liberty" won for us by our forefathers.

We must be ready to use metal and wood again, for if we are ready, truly ready, we may be able to conquer the monster with words - for in its heart it is a coward. But if we continue to feed the monster our freedoms, we will become too weak to win, to weak even to fight, and we will become a conquered people. We will have sold ourselves and our future generations into servitude.

If words fail us, we will use metal and wood, we will regain what we have lost, we will achieve what we seek, we will guarantee the America of our forefathers for the future generations.

So you see, our guns are more than metal and wood. They are our heritage of freedom. They are the universally understood symbol that the government, no matter how big and strong it may be, answers to us! They are the tools we will use to prevent tyranny in the land of our forefathers and our children. So, ask me what my guns mean to me. Ask my children what our guns mean to them. Ask us. I dare you.

 

[sm]

No restrictions whatsoever.




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[Ben Shepherd]

None, nadda. If you aren't currently behind bars, have at it.