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teetertotter
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2008 39a Golden Marlin - Scoped
It WAS pretty darn accurate out to 100M using Aguila Match Rifle w 2-1/2lb trigger, off sandbags on a calm afternoon. It was to heavy to hold and was collecting dust. I posted it for sale on our Club bulletin board one Saturday in December 14'. It sold the next day to a club member. The price included a brick of Aguila Match Rifle plus the nylon gun case.
It WAS pretty darn accurate out to 100M using Aguila Match Rifle w 2-1/2lb trigger, off sandbags on a calm afternoon. It was to heavy to hold and was collecting dust. I posted it for sale on our Club bulletin board one Saturday in December 14'. It sold the next day to a club member. The price included a brick of Aguila Match Rifle plus the nylon gun case.
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Hoppes Love Potion
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I think the millions of Henrys sold in this era will become very beloved family heirlooms in the decades to come. They aren't quite the same as the old Marlins and Winnys, but that won't impact the invaluable family memories made with these rifles. The honest quality for the price and lifetime warranty should serve owners well - actually, the warranty is for the life of the GUN, not the owner. So, forever.
I have a Henry Frontier Model with the octagon barrel and a Skinner peep on the rear. It does everything I need a .22 to do.
I have a Henry Frontier Model with the octagon barrel and a Skinner peep on the rear. It does everything I need a .22 to do.
CraigC
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It's certainly worth it to me. The Marlin is infinitely better than the Henry. The Browning better still with the Winchester the best of the bunch. They were made better than any centerfire Winchester levergun since well before 1964. All milled steel. No plastic, no pot metal.
The Henry is a good value but it is a cheaply made rifle. I don't buy warranties, I buy quality and it's worth it to me to spend the extra bucks on a Winchester, Marlin or Browning.
The Henry is a good value but it is a cheaply made rifle. I don't buy warranties, I buy quality and it's worth it to me to spend the extra bucks on a Winchester, Marlin or Browning.
GetmeoutaCT
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I've got a 39A I bought a few months ago; I drive by the old Marlin plant on I-91 in North Haven, CT every week when I bring my daughter back to college and it's a sad empty sight - I had to get a rifle built in that plant. Enter a 1994 39A. The lever works like butter and it's more accurate than these old eyes can shoot.
I can't speak for the others but I wouldn't touch a new Henry - it's not really a Henry and I don't like the loading method. Call me an old curmudgeon; that's fine, just get off my lawn!
I can't speak for the others but I wouldn't touch a new Henry - it's not really a Henry and I don't like the loading method. Call me an old curmudgeon; that's fine, just get off my lawn!
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Don McDowell
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So what's the big difference between loading the Marlin thru a slot in the tube magazine and the Henry, and countless other tube magazine fed 22's?
az_imuth
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I keep seeing references of this sort, but don't quite understand them. I've looked the website over several times and never can find where the current Henry company claims a connection to the original. Maybe it's there and I'm just not seeing it. As much as they donate across the US and try to keep jobs here I'd hate to think folks were forming a negative opinion about them over nothing more than internet lore.
BTW, I own examples from most of the companies mentioned in this thread and like them all. If it's a levergun and shoots .22 then I'll undoubtedly like it.
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Thank you for the reply re: Henry
BTW- both of mine were Frontiers.
I told Henry each time that I shoot at 50 yards only with it and at paper.
First time around, they said rifle was dirty and that they cleaned it. I am pretty OCD with my rifles and it was as clean as a whistle. I also included some test targets detailing which ammo I was using with each and which were with iron sights and which with a Mueller scope. BTW- I told them I have two CZ 452's and an Anschutz 1913a, all shooting at 50 yards. I do not compare the Henry to any of them, but rather informed Henry of this to not be discounted as someone who cannot hit the floor when dropping a rifle.
Next- Sent it back again since no improvement and again stressed I shoot at 50. They recrowned it (poor job on a good crown to start with) and said with return they can only test at 25 yards.
One good thing, though. There was an amazingly fast turnaround even though rifle still shoots poorly. It now resides locked up and oiled once every six months to avoid rusting.
Thank you for the reply re: Henry
BTW- both of mine were Frontiers.
I told Henry each time that I shoot at 50 yards only with it and at paper.
First time around, they said rifle was dirty and that they cleaned it. I am pretty OCD with my rifles and it was as clean as a whistle. I also included some test targets detailing which ammo I was using with each and which were with iron sights and which with a Mueller scope. BTW- I told them I have two CZ 452's and an Anschutz 1913a, all shooting at 50 yards. I do not compare the Henry to any of them, but rather informed Henry of this to not be discounted as someone who cannot hit the floor when dropping a rifle.
Next- Sent it back again since no improvement and again stressed I shoot at 50. They recrowned it (poor job on a good crown to start with) and said with return they can only test at 25 yards.
One good thing, though. There was an amazingly fast turnaround even though rifle still shoots poorly. It now resides locked up and oiled once every six months to avoid rusting.
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The Henry loads the same as any tube fed rifle. In fact, pick up a Speed-D-Loader on line or from Henry. 120 rounds pour out perfectly, 15 at a time (or 16) into the tube with the correct angle on the pour.
GetmeoutaCT
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Mean no offense to Henry lovers; I typed that when I hadn't had my bran muffin yet.
My understanding (and my recollection from handling one at the bangstick emporium) is that new Henry 22's require the tube mag to actually be removed from the rifle for loading. Struck me as odd. Maybe it's just Alzheimers.
Again, apologies. My rule is never to disparage others' choices, but I guess rules are made to be broken. My intended points were that I love my 39A, and I see no reason to choose a new Henry over a good used Marlin.
My understanding (and my recollection from handling one at the bangstick emporium) is that new Henry 22's require the tube mag to actually be removed from the rifle for loading. Struck me as odd. Maybe it's just Alzheimers.
Again, apologies. My rule is never to disparage others' choices, but I guess rules are made to be broken. My intended points were that I love my 39A, and I see no reason to choose a new Henry over a good used Marlin.
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CraigC
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Really, did you miss this page???
http://www.henryrifles.com/henry-history/
They do claim lineage from Benjamin Tyler Henry, even though he was a Winchester employee and there never was a Henry Repeating Arms. So there was no name for them to buy. They just took the old Ithaca design, assumed the name and claimed the history for their own. I don't really care one way or another and that's not why I'm not a fan of their rifles.
GetmeoutaCT
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Thanks. Time for my medication.
GetmeoutaCT
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Sorry -duplicate response.
az_imuth
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No, I didn't miss that page. I just understood it to be about the history of the original Henry company, hence the page title "Henry History". That page seems to be about the original company while the page, "Henry Today" is about the current company. I guess it could be taken either way, kinda like the glass half full concept, but I never took it to be a claim to any link other than the name, which is a simple marketing tactic. Either way, I commend their efforts to keep jobs in the US and to promoting the shooting sports.
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GetmeoutaCT-
What response?
Sorry, just messing with your head.
What response?
Sorry, just messing with your head.
fotheringill
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Does not need to be removed for loading but a PITA for cease fires at my range. Tubes need to be empty and action open.
CraigC
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There was no original Henry company but the imply that one existed. Henry went from an employee of S&W, to an employee of Volcanic Arms to an employee of New Haven Arms which became Winchester. His main contribution was to improve the Volcanic pistol design which became the 1860 "Henry" rifle, which was again improved by Winchester into the 1866, 1873 and 1876.
Why would they resurrect the name, build brass framed rifles resembling the 1860 and now a full blown replica, if they were not going to imply a connection to Benjamin Tyler Henry? They certainly don't do anything to discourage the misconception.
Why would they resurrect the name, build brass framed rifles resembling the 1860 and now a full blown replica, if they were not going to imply a connection to Benjamin Tyler Henry? They certainly don't do anything to discourage the misconception.
To be fair, all tube-fed .22's are like that.
skeptical_in_Ohio
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Marlin, Henry and the history thing
Hi all-
Since we have both Henry and Marlin, I feel reasonably comfortable weighing in.
The 39A is buttery smooth; if you have the coin and can find a good used one, go for it. This said, there is much to be said for the Henrys, both octagon and regular barrel. If you have one with the plastic parts, I'd swap out the front one at least (the metal sight is a little smaller), but that's just me.
I am personally ambivalent about the lack of clarity regarding the relationship between Henry (the original BT Henry) and Henry (Henry Repeating Arms, hereafter HRA). I think HRA has a claim to be making high-quality (I'm sure some will debate this assertion) arms in the spirit of the original (and if they said it that way I'm sure nobody would get too bent), but the allusion seems to imply a more straight-line relationship with the original Mr. Henry (yup, I read that history page).
This noted, there are things about which I have no ambivalence. HRA supports many pro-2A causes, they make their products here in the US, and their customer service is just freaky good. Once I had a problem with a .22 mag keyholing. The immediate email reply to my inquiry had a RMA attached. The rifle duly went in and got a new barrel. It also came back also with new wood (mine was used and had been nicked a time or two). It wasn't quite 10 days away. This was on a used rifle. It's actions are buttery smooth out of the box, and if a slightly harder coating on the receiver existed they'd be about as good as just about anything newly made, and certainly the class of their price range.
Another note on the name thing. A few years ago, I was in Seattle at the Boeing Museum. Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas a few years ago; this said it was quite a jolt to see the Gemini capsules referred to as Boeing Gemini capsules. One can counter (quite correctly) that Boeing bought McDonnell Dogulas, but it still seemed curious to me.
As nice as my Marlin 39a is, I also know that the Marlin that made it doesn't exist any more, given the quality problems that have plagued it since the Remington move. Maybe it has gotten/will get better.
IMHO.
Have a great day all.
Hi all-
Since we have both Henry and Marlin, I feel reasonably comfortable weighing in.
The 39A is buttery smooth; if you have the coin and can find a good used one, go for it. This said, there is much to be said for the Henrys, both octagon and regular barrel. If you have one with the plastic parts, I'd swap out the front one at least (the metal sight is a little smaller), but that's just me.
I am personally ambivalent about the lack of clarity regarding the relationship between Henry (the original BT Henry) and Henry (Henry Repeating Arms, hereafter HRA). I think HRA has a claim to be making high-quality (I'm sure some will debate this assertion) arms in the spirit of the original (and if they said it that way I'm sure nobody would get too bent), but the allusion seems to imply a more straight-line relationship with the original Mr. Henry (yup, I read that history page).
This noted, there are things about which I have no ambivalence. HRA supports many pro-2A causes, they make their products here in the US, and their customer service is just freaky good. Once I had a problem with a .22 mag keyholing. The immediate email reply to my inquiry had a RMA attached. The rifle duly went in and got a new barrel. It also came back also with new wood (mine was used and had been nicked a time or two). It wasn't quite 10 days away. This was on a used rifle. It's actions are buttery smooth out of the box, and if a slightly harder coating on the receiver existed they'd be about as good as just about anything newly made, and certainly the class of their price range.
Another note on the name thing. A few years ago, I was in Seattle at the Boeing Museum. Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas a few years ago; this said it was quite a jolt to see the Gemini capsules referred to as Boeing Gemini capsules. One can counter (quite correctly) that Boeing bought McDonnell Dogulas, but it still seemed curious to me.
As nice as my Marlin 39a is, I also know that the Marlin that made it doesn't exist any more, given the quality problems that have plagued it since the Remington move. Maybe it has gotten/will get better.
IMHO.
Have a great day all.
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Yes, Denis, give me the wide open spaces anytime. Getting out of CT (hence my handle) as soon as I can.
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