Lightest 16" 5.56NATO AR-15:

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After buying almost all the firearms that I'm interested in (save for a few more transferable machine guns that I just don't have the money for) I've honestly gotten bored enough to build a few ARs. They're great, but most are kind of boring...which is why I built a GAU-5A clone amongst others, which was a bit heavier than I found to be ideal. This is largely due to the Cry Havok bbl swap kit (which is great, don't get me wrong), which not only weighs a decent amount, but also places the center of gravity a bit farther forward thus throwing off the balance. I went to swapping parts to save weight (mainly heavy core components like the upper and lower replaced with Battle Arms Dev. lightweight receivers, Ti bolt, Ti gas block, a Ti/Al flash hider (one of each on the two bbls that I've built for the kit), CF buffer tube, Battlelink Minimalist stock, & pencil bbls, which substantially reduced the weight (more than making up for the Cry Havok kit).

All of this led me down the rabbit hole to just how light I could go if I really wanted to go super light. My goal is to build a unloaded sub-3lb 16" bbl AR-15 that is still shooting 5.56NATO (so it will still require a full gas system unlike a blowback operated pistol caliber and buffer system unlike a .22LR conversion). It's a fairly challenging goal, but I think it's doable given the precise combination of components (I've now ordered everything, but several parts are still backordered). These include some sub-optimal components from a durability/longevity standpoint (this will not be a SHTF/defensive carbine and will definitely never see any full-auto), such as a skeletonized aluminum bolt carrier, polymer upper & lower, all-polymer lower control group (save for springs and a skeletonized bolt hold open; which isn't absolutely necessary, but I wanted one), gutted buffer, and probably most of all an aluminum gas block (yes I know all the stories about erosion and thermal expansion, but again, this is not a build for rapid fire or long days at the range...it's just a fun little rifle). I almost spent $350 on a custom Ti block from Jacob Gray, but in the end they just wanted entirely too long to produce one, so I dropped the idea (I may revisit it later, but I just couldn't see waiting 4mo and spending so much for a 9 gram part that wasn't even adjustable, so I'd still need the adjustable gas key). So far I have everything on the back end of the rifle complete including the complete lower as well as the upper which is only missing the charging handle (Strike Ind. latchless), barrel (Faxon 16" pencil with integral flash hider), handguard (7" Brigand Arms Blade), & sights (Shield Mini Red Dot with polymer riser). By my calculation I should be about 0.5-1oz lighter than the goal when all of the other parts arrive! As best as I can tell this will be the lightest one ever built (at least one that's not a .22LR) and almost certainly the lightest with a 16in.+ barrel.

I'm excited to hear what everyone thinks about what will probably prove to be the most costly, pound for pound semi-auto AR-15 in existence. If anyone has any advice I'm also very interested in hearing it (I make no promises to follow it, but I'll at least hear you out). Also please reference something equally light or lighter if you have any information on it.
 
Sorta solved that problem with a 16" pencil faux VietNam era carbine, but, as others have said, this is going to a whole 'nother level.
This is reminding me of racing bikes, with parts made of super lightweight unobtanium.
Anyway, novel idea, let us know how it works. :)
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Thank you for the encouraging replies! I will definitely give updates with progress and photos to go along with them.

Something that I failed to mention is recoil. I think it's going to be funny the first time someone jokes about how it's a toy and then takes a shot only to be pushed back with similar recoil to a lightweight .243Win or maybe even 6.54Creedmoor (all actions opposite and equal and all that). :p
 
Here's a teaser (for both of us, because I'm still missing the front end parts & charging handle, scheduled to arrive...eventually) of what I have so far including the smoke composites stock, plate, & grip, Kaiser X-7 "Blackbird" receivers, and parts therein. Speaking of which I just added a titanium buffer retaining pin (I didn't have one before, but that makes it a pain to break down, so I went ahead and added the quarter ounce part) as well as replaced the carrier key screws with titanium ones and the firing pin with titanium yesterday (you know I gotta' make up for that quarter ounce somehow!), so I'm sitting at If anyone has any questions about individual parts I'm an open book.

If push comes to shove and my calculations (or listed weights for components) was incorrect I plan to loose the buffer retainer pin and more importantly the steel bolt hold open (I can't find a Ti one anywhere and aluminum just isn't strong enough for the impact it will take), after I skeletonize everything possible/feasibly that is (nothing will be unsafe though, I'm not touching the bolt, bbl extension, or the chamber area of the barrel (other end is fair game though).

Enjoy!
 

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Here's a teaser (for both of us, because I'm still missing the front end parts & charging handle, scheduled to arrive...eventually) of what I have so far including the smoke composites stock, plate, & grip, Kaiser X-7 "Blackbird" receivers, and parts therein. Speaking of which I just added a titanium buffer retaining pin (I didn't have one before, but that makes it a pain to break down, so I went ahead and added the quarter ounce part) as well as replaced the carrier key screws with titanium ones and the firing pin with titanium yesterday (you know I gotta' make up for that quarter ounce somehow!), so I'm sitting at If anyone has any questions about individual parts I'm an open book.
How much does the complete lower assembly weigh without the upper?
 
How much does the complete lower assembly weigh without the upper?
Just weighed it up and came up with 15.0oz. (note that the scale used is only accurate to the nearest half of an ounce so there could be a bit of error, but my powder scale isn't as handy). FWIW the complete bolt carrier group with adjustable gas key is coming up to 5.0oz.
 
A few years ago I set out to build a super light 300blk stalking deer rifle ar15 as light as possible without doing anything truly exotic

cav15 lower (plastic)
No name light profile 16”bbl
Taccom buffer (also plastic)
Aluminum bolt carrier


it’s around 5lbs sans optic and I’ve not shot it in years lol. I’ve recently been considering digging it out and converting it to 350 legend which did not exist when I built this unit.

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I suspect you'll reach the same conclusion many of us did after engaging this pursuit and building sub-4 or even sub-3 pound guns. That is, too many sacrifices are made.

It's pretty easy to build a durable & reliable ~5 lb AR.

It's much more difficult and expensive at 4 lbs.

At 3 lbs, you have a very specialized and fragile thing.

I've also made from scratch some of the lightest repeating rifles you can imagine, including a 5-shot bolt action .22 that weighs only 19 ounces, so I get it, but again, some of the compromises/sacrifices that have to be made to get there are not trivial. My 3.2 pound folding 9mm semiautomatic rifle actually worked out pretty well, but the bolt is so light that it's borderline on not blowing cases out, and it's not even worth suppressing with such early breech opening and high bolt speed, have 151 decibels at shooter's ear from port noise.
 
Happy to help! I assume you're using the 2A armament barrel for this? You will need to dimple it for a gas block which will shave off another little bit of weight.

Oops. I see you went with Faxon.
The 2A is actually slightly lighter, but probably not when you factor in the muzzle device (which is machined into the Faxon I chose). I'll have to dimple it too.

A few years ago I set out to build a super light 300blk stalking deer rifle ar15 as light as possible without doing anything truly exotic [...] it’s around 5lbs sans optic and I’ve not shot it in years lol. I’ve recently been considering digging it out and converting it to 350 legend which did not exist when I built this unit.
That's a lot more practical than what I'm after. I think the .350L would be a good move for a reasonable hunting rifle (not that a .300Blk or even .223Rem, where legal, can't perform the task in a pinch).

I suspect you'll reach the same conclusion many of us did after engaging this pursuit and building sub-4 or even sub-3 pound guns. That is, too many sacrifices are made.

It's pretty easy to build a durable & reliable ~5 lb AR.

It's much more difficult and expensive at 4 lbs.

At 3 lbs, you have a very specialized and fragile thing.

I've also made from scratch some of the lightest repeating rifles you can imagine, including a 5-shot bolt action .22 that weighs only 19 ounces, so I get it, but again, some of the compromises/sacrifices that have to be made to get there are not trivial. My 3.2 pound folding 9mm semiautomatic rifle actually worked out pretty well, but the bolt is so light that it's borderline on not blowing cases out, and it's not even worth suppressing with such early breech opening and high bolt speed, have 151 decibels at shooter's ear from port noise.
You're not wrong; nothing about this build is practical and while I wouldn't necessarily call it fragile, it's far from a hardened, robust design with ergonomics and beauty, much less durability taking a back seat.
 
Pretty cool project. My biggest complaint in the AR market is that they are all so darn heavy. The barrels especially are often ludicrously heavy for the cartridges. The other day I machined almost a lb off this 7.62x39 barrel, and my end profile isn't even aggressively light. I don't understand why they aren't all like this.

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Pretty cool project. My biggest complaint in the AR market is that they are all so darn heavy. The barrels especially are often ludicrously heavy for the cartridges. The other day I machined almost a lb off this 7.62x39 barrel, and my end profile isn't even aggressively light. I don't understand why they aren't all like this.

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My last build from the ground up was with a pencil barrel, and that's my strong preference now a days.

My current build only has a gov't profile because I got such a good deal on it and don't want to fiddle with getting another barrel drilled and pinned for a FSB. The government profile is weird, I'd prefer the extra meat by the chamber rather than the muzzle, but at least it's not overly heavy.
 
My last build from the ground up was with a pencil barrel, and that's my strong preference now a days.

My current build only has a gov't profile because I got such a good deal on it and don't want to fiddle with getting another barrel drilled and pinned for a FSB. The government profile is weird, I'd prefer the extra meat by the chamber rather than the muzzle, but at least it's not overly heavy.

The gov't profile really perplexes me, and the narrow spot in an M4 profile even more so.

I found this article a while back explaining how the gov't profile came to be

https://www.everydaymarksman.co/equipment/government-profile-barrel/

I did this M4 profile 300 blackout barrel last week and made the front half of the barrel the same diameter as the M203 cut and shortened it a couple inches and rethreaded it. I left a wide spot at the front where it is still marked 300 BLA and then pinned and welded a krinkov brake on it to make a legal 16".

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I did this 350 legend barrel this morning, taking about half a pound off of it while also shortening it to get a krink brake pinned and welded.

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The gov't profile really perplexes me, and the narrow spot in an M4 profile even more so.

I found this article a while back explaining how the gov't profile came to be

https://www.everydaymarksman.co/equipment/government-profile-barrel/

I did this M4 profile 300 blackout barrel last week and made the front half of the barrel the same diameter as the M203 cut and shortened it a couple inches and rethreaded it. I left a wide spot at the front where it is still marked 300 BLA and then pinned and welded a krinkov brake on it to make a legal 16".

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I did this 350 legend barrel this morning, taking about half a pound off of it while also shortening it to get a krink brake pinned and welded.

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I might have to send you a barrel to turn down for my next build!
 
All of this led me down the rabbit hole to just how light I could go if I really wanted to go super light. My goal is to build a unloaded sub-3lb 16" bbl AR-15 that is still shooting 5.56NATO.....
If I had a nickel every time a customer said "lightweight AR build" I'd have a couple hundred $$$.:D
I would have another couple of hundred $$$ for every customer that wound up abandoning the concept.
 
The gov't profile really perplexes me, and the narrow spot in an M4 profile even more so.

I found this article a while back explaining how the gov't profile came to be

https://www.everydaymarksman.co/equipment/government-profile-barrel/

I did this M4 profile 300 blackout barrel last week and made the front half of the barrel the same diameter as the M203 cut and shortened it a couple inches and rethreaded it. I left a wide spot at the front where it is still marked 300 BLA and then pinned and welded a krinkov brake on it to make a legal 16".

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I did this 350 legend barrel this morning, taking about half a pound off of it while also shortening it to get a krink brake pinned and welded.

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I have turned down a couple m4 barrels to save some weight back when I couldn't find pencil barrels. Takes a $69 barrel and turn it into a $150 barrel. And like you said, a half pound of front barrel weight gone too.
 
I have turned down a couple m4 barrels to save some weight back when I couldn't find pencil barrels. Takes a $69 barrel and turn it into a $150 barrel. And like you said, a half pound of front barrel weight gone too.

I started this because I couldn’t find a 14” 300 blackout, 350 legend, or 7.62x39 barrels so I figured I would make them. It’s kinda fun though, I just ordered a barrel blank and a bare barrel extension so going to try making my first barrel from scratch.
 
I started this because I couldn’t find a 14” 300 blackout, 350 legend, or 7.62x39 barrels so I figured I would make them. It’s kinda fun though, I just ordered a barrel blank and a bare barrel extension so going to try making my first barrel from scratch.
Haven't done that yet for an AR-15, but I have done a few for a single shot break barrel. Show us the project when you get to it!
 
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