Looking for a particular type of rifle

[BNvy15]

Hi Everyone, first time poster. I am on the hunt for my grail gun, but it seems difficult to find. This is a link to the manufacturer. https://www.chiappafirearms.com/pro...tion-take-down-rifle-color-case-357mag-24-bbl

I have tried contacting the importer/dealer-no dice. I have called numerous gun shops all over the place. I am looking for this EXACT "color scheme" of rifle- preferably 357 but caliber isnt too critical. Will i have better luck finding an honest polotician than this rifle? Please help if you can. Thank you in advance.

 

[drk1]

Greetings! Thanks for the question. There is frequently a great deal of frustration when it comes to finding a particular item. It stems in large part from a lack of communication between the manufacting departments of companies and the sales and marketing departments. It's not unusual to find a company advertizing an item that they haven't even produced yet! For example, Beretta advertized the Tomcat for at least two years before it finally appeared on the shelves. In the case of your hunt, it's largely a matter of production numbers. That is when a company decides to produce an item, they schedule a production run of xxx number of units and when that is completed, they may not come back to produce more for several years.... if ever again. Right now Chiappa seems to be focusing on the .22 cal. take-downs. However, if you go to gunsinternational.com and search under Chiappa, you'll find one 1892 take down, but in .45 long colt. offered by a dealer in Kansas. There is also one seller on GB that claims to have one with the Taylor & Co. name on it and in .357, but you should call that dealer and make certain he actually, really, honest to gosh has it in his hand before you bid on it. Best of luck. Keep us posted on your hunt and eventually a review of its preformance would be great.

 

[BNvy15]

Greetings! Thanks for the question. There is frequently a great deal of frustration when it comes to finding a particular item. It stems in large part from a lack of communication between the manufacting departments of companies and the sales and marketing departments. It's not unusual to find a company advertizing an item that they haven't even produced yet! For example, Beretta advertized the Tomcat for at least two years before it finally appeared on the shelves. In the case of your hunt, it's largely a matter of production numbers. That is when a company decides to produce an item, they schedule a production run of xxx number of units and when that is completed, they may not come back to produce more for several years.... if ever again. Right now Chiappa seems to be focusing on the .22 cal. take-downs. However, if you go to gunsinternational.com and search under Chiappa, you'll find one 1892 take down, but in .45 long colt. offered by a dealer in Kansas. There is also one seller on GB that claims to have one with the Taylor & Co. name on it and in .357, but you should call that dealer and make certain he actually, really, honest to gosh has it in his hand before you bid on it. Best of luck. Keep us posted on your hunt and eventually a review of its preformance would be great.

Do you have links? I just got off GB and international last night and didnt see anything. Was it the exact same one as my link, color and all? And i would gladly give a perf review if i ever get it lol.

 

[BNvy15]

Greetings! Thanks for the question. There is frequently a great deal of frustration when it comes to finding a particular item. It stems in large part from a lack of communication between the manufacting departments of companies and the sales and marketing departments. It's not unusual to find a company advertizing an item that they haven't even produced yet! For example, Beretta advertized the Tomcat for at least two years before it finally appeared on the shelves. In the case of your hunt, it's largely a matter of production numbers. That is when a company decides to produce an item, they schedule a production run of xxx number of units and when that is completed, they may not come back to produce more for several years.... if ever again. Right now Chiappa seems to be focusing on the .22 cal. take-downs. However, if you go to gunsinternational.com and search under Chiappa, you'll find one 1892 take down, but in .45 long colt. offered by a dealer in Kansas. There is also one seller on GB that claims to have one with the Taylor & Co. name on it and in .357, but you should call that dealer and make certain he actually, really, honest to gosh has it in his hand before you bid on it. Best of luck. Keep us posted on your hunt and eventually a review of its preformance would be great.

I just check guns international and i found what you were referencing. That rifle is beautiful, but its not quite what i am looking for. If you look at the link i posted vs the listing pic, its very close, but not the same rifle. Chiappa makes them bc of the various configurations still listed but actually getting one seems impossible. There is also another issue- i bought one, chiappa 1892 920.056. The stock photo looks reddish, but when Taylors sent me some pics-it was very close to what i am sesrching for in the oroginal link i posted. This only further frustrates actually finding the color configuration of what i am desperately seeking.

 

[1KPerDay]

Are you saying you want the exact rifle with the exact same color case pattern? Because that’s not going to happen. Or are you just saying you want a takedown model with a case hardened finish?

 

[BNvy15]

Are you saying you want the exact rifle with the exact same color case pattern? Because that’s not going to happen. Or are you just saying you want a takedown model with a case hardened finish?

Im saying i want it to look as close to this as possible, wood grain and color case hardened. I know itll have different "lines" for wood, and different "variations" for CCh, but overall it will look the same. Look at these numbers on chiappa. Different rifles- but same "trim" or "look" that is what i am after. 920.149, 920.123, 920. 359, etc.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/exhaustnotes.us/blog/index.php/2019/09/06/the-1886-winchester/amp/ that link will show an article that gives the same color scheme-but for an 1886.

Im trying to post s pic of my rifle (which is fairly close) but when you check the sku, it comes up to a completely different looking rifle than in person. But look at the numbers i provided and that other link, and youll see what it is im looking for.

 

[drk1]

Sorry that I didn't understand your specifications. Hope you're a patient person, because, based on sixty plus years in the firearms business, you're probably going to be searching for a long, long, long time. Matching a specific picture to a newly made firearm with a specific sku is, as another person has tried to explain, "not going to happen." It would seem that you're looking for a matched set that was never matched. Even when Merkel, Kriegoff, Perazzzi turn out "matched" sets, there are differences. There is one other, quicker and perhaps more suitable solution; buy one that is as close as possible and then send it along with the one you have off to someone like Turnbull Restorations, but you should ask them first if they're willing to do that. There will be a big desposit involved and it might cost $3000 -- $4000 plus the cost of the new one, but they can do it, if they want to. Best of luck.

 

[Pat Riot]

Would this be close enough to what you want?

1892 Takedown Rifle 24" .45Lc

The Takedown rifles features a case-hardened frame and blue barrel finish. It is able to be broken down into two pieces for easy transport.

www.taylorsfirearms.com

Here’s a .357 of the same model.

1892 Takedown Rifle 20" .357Mag

The Takedown rifles features a case-hardened frame and blue barrel finish. It is able to be broken down into two pieces for easy transport.

www.taylorsfirearms.com

They also have a few 1892 rifles that aren’t takedowns.

1892 Rifle | Taylor's Firearms

www.taylorsfirearms.com

 

[BNvy15]

Would this be close enough to what you want?
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1892 Takedown Rifle 24" .45Lc

The Takedown rifles features a case-hardened frame and blue barrel finish. It is able to be broken down into two pieces for easy transport.

www.taylorsfirearms.com

Here’s a .357 of the same model.
View attachment 1192875

1892 Takedown Rifle 20" .357Mag

The Takedown rifles features a case-hardened frame and blue barrel finish. It is able to be broken down into two pieces for easy transport.

www.taylorsfirearms.com

They also have a few 1892 rifles that aren’t takedowns.

1892 Rifle | Taylor's Firearms

www.taylorsfirearms.com

Honestly im not sure. The dilemma is the stock pics almost never look like the actual gun. For example, my rifle above looks nothing like the stock pic. It actually "looks" closer to the stock pic of the o

 

[BNvy15]

Sorry, hit post before i meant to. It actually looks closer to what i am looking for. The problem is the gun i am looking for- i cant seem to find a pic of it (except in the exhaust notes blog link i posted. ) with the two guns you posted, they dont look like what im looking for. Basically what i am looking for is still in production but i cant get an actual pic of it anywhere.

 

[Pat Riot]

Sorry, hit post before i meant to. It actually looks closer to what i am looking for. The problem is the gun i am looking for- i cant seem to find a pic of it (except in the exhaust notes blog link i posted. ) with the two guns you posted, they dont look like what im looking for. Basically what i am looking for is still in production but i cant get an actual pic of it anywhere.

Sorry.
I think Chiappa is one of those companies that makes a certain gun model in batches then goes on to make other variation / styles and eventually comes back around to making that one certain model again later on.

A couple of years back I contacted Chiappa about a particular model of Rhino revolver they had listed online. I couldn’t find that model anywhere. Chiappa told me that if it’s listed online but none are available that as long as it is shown online they will get around to making it again at some point.
Perhaps your only option may be to just keep searching and / or wait for them to make it again.
I would send them an email a week. Maybe that might light a fire under somebody…or tick ‘em off.

 

[Speedo66]

I once contacted a manufacturer and asked them who was the last distributor they had sent a certain hard to find model to.

They gave me that info, and I had my dealer contact the distributor and was able to get that particular model.

Might be worth a try.

 

[Chief TC]

I know you listed Chiappa but I would recomend a Winchester Miroku. I have seen them advertised through Gunbroker and GunsInternational. And other sites - https://www.budsgunshop.com/product...n+walnut+fixed+w+textured+grip+panels+stock+c

If you are going to spend that kind of money, a few hundred more for a Win is a smart purchase IMHO.

Also, maybe consider a different caliber if you really want 24" barrel. Maybe someone else has a different opinion but I think anything past 18" is not adding any performance value for a .357.

 

[BNvy15]

Everyone, drum roll please..... after 3 years of searching, i found the rifle! It is ordered and on the way! 24in 357 take down model 1892. Woohoo!!!