M1.30 Carbine Pistol Options?

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Hey Studs!

Happy Fathers Day to all the Daddios out there!
BRAVO to each of you for the standard & self-sacrifice you operate in.
I have done some "light research" on the early M1 .30 Carbines that were standard firearms for the U.S. military during World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War.
I know technology has made them expendable/antiquated, yet the ballistics and testimonials show that they are no slouch and in actual close/medium range firefights they present a problem for the enemy!

I think I would like to own an M1 Carbine .30 Pistol that has the 15/30 round options. It would be fun to shoot & perhaps double as home/on-the-road defense also.

I like the M1 Inland Island Advisor & IVER JOHNSON ENFORCER.

Could any of you guys share your experience or any intel on these two or any other formidable M1 Carbine Pistol?

Thanks,

Reggie

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This is quite interesting, I believe these are new production. Unfortunately the resurrected Inland and Iver Johnson brands have very checkered reputations for reliability and quality, but there are only a very small number of choices when it comes to modern-manufacture M1 carbines.

I'd sure be interested in an SBR'd Advisor-type carbine if Fulton Armory made it.

But the M1 is such a handy and light carbine I'm not sure I'd feel the need to make it a ton smaller. It's similar in length to a 16" M4-style carbine but feels like a smaller, lighter, and handier footprint.
 
There are a couple on gun borker. $800 and over.

There are also Carbines with a folding stock. Not a pistol but pretty compact.
 
Madcap_Magician said:
That would be an amazingly fun gun.
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It is.
With the current price of ammo it gets expensive quickly at 750 rpm.
I think the transferable part is actually a kit comprised of ~9 parts, the pistol was bubbaed up to serve as a host when M1 Carbines were cheap and plentiful.
 
Bwana John said:
It is.
With the current price of ammo it gets expensive quickly at 750 rpm.
I think the transferable part is actually a kit comprised of ~9 parts, the pistol was bubbaed up to serve as a host when M1 Carbines were cheap and plentiful.
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I have lusted after transferable auto sears for much the same reason.
 
Those are some nice-looking ones on GunBroker for sure.
What are some of the modern-day rounds that are more effective for the M1?

That Winchester M1 is SWEET!!
I may wind up switching to the rifle vs the pistol.
I think Buffalo Bore has some decent ammo for it.

I've been comparing the M1 Carbine vs .9mm Carbine. Looks like the M1 carbine gives you about 960 to 970-foot pounds at the muzzle, while the 9mm gives you about 550-580 foot-pounds, even from a 16-inch barrel.
I read where the late Jim Cirillo of the New York Police Department’s Stakeout Squad (who was in over a dozen shootouts) hailed the .30 Carbine as one of the most effective man-stopping cartridges available (when using hollow points). Hmm...lol
 
.30 Carbine is a pussycat in a carbine/rifle, but the flash and report from a pistol barrel is considerable. I would NOT want to try to use a .30 pistol in an indoors home defense scenario, perhaps in the dark, as the shooter would be totally deaf afterwards.
Of course, a 12 gauge or .223 isnt any better in this regard......
IMO, the AR9 is an excellent long-gun choice for the HD role, with the .300 BO/Whisper being even better as long as over-penetration isnt a major concern (such as in an apartment building).
All that said, M1 carbines are handy and effective rifles at reasonable ranges, as well as being great fun.
 
Historically, the 'rifle with no butt stock' or 'really long handgun' variations have not been successful. They can be made to operate well, the problem lies in the field of 'user friendly'. Rifle type sights (buckhorn or peep) are of little use when a buttstock cannot be used to steady the rifle. Typically, a handgun of this configuration is clumsy to line up the sights. They are most useful - that is almost useful - as fully automatic arms used in situations of 'all them over there' being valid targets.

There are some who favor them, I should think not enough to make them in mass and sell at a profit. (So who's going to make them?)
 
Wow!!
What an amazing quantity & quality of feedback!
I truly appreciate it guys.
Just got off the phone with my uncle who is a Vietnam Vet & he tossed in a red herring of sorts.
He said, before you commit to the .30 Cal pistol, give the old 30-30 short barrel a try. Faster FPS & Superior Crazy Muzzle energy galore, cheaper ammo, and parts are plentiful!!

Any feedback on 30-30 vs .30 Cal? :confused:
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ReggiesFree said:
the old 30-30 short barrel
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Depends on what Unk meant by that. A NFA SBR .30-30 like a Trapper, or just the regular carbine? Marlin made the Marauder with 16" barrel but they are not common.

Pro: .30-30 is much more powerful than .30 carbine, more than even .30 commie short. (That's Alabama for 7.62x39.)
Pro: Lever actions are legal more places than automatics.
Con: Magazine capacity 5-7 instead of 15/30.
Con: You can shoot a lever action fast enough for most purposes but it takes practice, not just pulling the trigger again.
Con: The usual .30-30 is light with a narrow buttplate, more felt recoil than you might expect from a non-magnumb.
 
That Trapper & Marlin Marauder are beautiful guns...wow!
I see they're awfully expensive as well when found.

The 7.62x39. has some awfully impressive ballistics, yet as you stated, "still falls short of the legendary 30-30!":thumbup:
A 16-18 inch 30-30 just might scratch this itch...before I wind up in the poor house!:uhoh:

Appreciate the stellar info!:)
 
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