m1 garand/carbine on AIM

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you can get the carbing from CMP for an easy $300 or so less, and the same for a Garand. I'll admit the condition looks great on the AIM ones, but I'd guess they are really the same as decent CMP ones and they just cleaned them up a bit.

Could be wrong though, as I havent seen an AIM one in person, nor heard about them.Just going on my CMP M1 Carbine and Garand, and looking at AIM's price and pics, so maybe they are good enough to justify $300 more, but I'm pretty skeptical.
 
never heard of cmp. this was more of an "oh look shiny!" post. i also see m1's going for a thousand or so, so i thought this was a good deal. but can i get a link to cmp?
 
sweet thanks. looking through their logs now. well it's loading homepage.
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If you spend too much time there you may as well kiss your wallet goodbye...the Garands and ammo are some sweet deals!!

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Those prices are high, even here at the local shops you can get a Garand for 600-900 depending on the condition, higher than CMP but you dont have to wait. If I was gonna order, I'd go CMP, WAY cheaper, and it comes right to your door, so you dont have to pay the middle man
 
I haven't seen any .30 carbines on CMP for about $300. The only thing they're accepting orders for now are going for $479. The ones on AIM are just slightly racy on the price. Reminds me of a Mitchell Mauser...
 
considering ammo prices and such, is a m1 carbine a good buy. that going against an ak/ar. this goes in along with strenght range so on and so forth.
 
In both links they are way to high particularly sense there is no detailed specs given. You can get a much better deal from CMP, and with them they give you all the specs you'll ever need.

Ammo for the carbine is going be be hard to come by unless you can get the stuff from CMP directly. 30-06 is easier to get and cheaper to shoot.
 
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Clever !! LOL !!!
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I lol'd as well.

Also, The Gander Mountain in Kalamazoo, MI has (had?) a 1903 with the Pedersen slot milled into it.

It was rack grade at best and they wanted $699.97 for it.
 
Also, The Gander Mountain in Kalamazoo, MI has (had?) a 1903 with the Pedersen slot milled into it.

It was rack grade at best and they wanted $699.97 for it.
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Places like Gander Mtn and others will tend to over charge for their "collector" type guns. I guess it's "buyer beware".
 
"...an easy $300 or so less, and the same for a Garand..." Nope. $445 and up for an M1 rifle. $479 and up for a carbine.
Shevrock. Jump the hoops, shoot the matches even if you don't have to (it's great fun and you'll meet some great people who will usually let you shoot their rifle. Plus there are quite often loaner rifles at the matches) and buy from the CMP. You know what you'll get(a pretty stock doesn't mean the rifle is any good.) and the CMP isn't happy until you are. Have any issues and they'll fix it with a phone call.
Go here too. Good bunch. http://www.odcmp.org/new_forum/
Here's a list of what gets done to a CMP M1 Rifle before it's put up for sale. http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/inspect.htm
They sell Greek milsurp ammo too. Carefully loaded handloads it ain't though.
"...that hold their power against the test of time..." As in value? Nearly every milsurp rifle. They're an investment you can play with. The thing with milsurps, in general, is that none of 'em are being made anymore and the condition of most available examples is going down(That usually doesn't apply to CMP stuff too much though. You get a safe serviceable rifle.) and the prices are skyrocketing. My M1 rifle cost me $175Cdn, 30 years ago. I've seen junkers at gun shows, up here, for $775. The guy did carry it back and forth a lot though.
Go buy a copy of Hatcher's Notebook and Hatcher's Book of the Garand. Your local gun shop or Amazon. About $30 or so each. The Notebook is required reading for anybody who shoots. The Book of the Garand has a history of the rifle and a trouble shooting chapter.
Plus there are free, downloadable, TM and FM manuals, in .pdf format, available here. Note the need for the provided UN & PW. http://www.biggerhammer.net/manuals/
"...haven't found many m1903's around..." They have issues according to the S/N. Hatcher's Notebook will tell you all about it. Mind you, it's a 100 year old milsurp rifle. Lots of 'em have been sporterized(bubba'd) or destroyed in one way or another.
 
The only carbines CMP has left are rack grade with a muzzle over 3. Agreed, they are a carbine, but they will not have much in the accuracy department. Some friends of mine and I got an Inland from SOG a couple of months ago for $400 each and they all had a muzzle of 2 or less. Right now SOG is selling Postal Meter, IBM, and Underwood for $595. Whooooooo, they (CMP included) price them by the manufacturer and the amount originally produced as if they are collector items. In reality, they are a mix-master of parts and none of them are collectors..... Then again, I guess they are worth what someone is willing to pay.
 
One thing about CMP is they are not a retail outlet like the gun shops at the corner. If they have rack grade then they tell you. If it's over 3, they tell you, if it's made from a bunch of different parts they tell you. In other words you know what you're getting for the money you spend. Unless things have drastically changed in the past month at Wally World, Joe Blows gun shop or any of the other numerous places selling M1's or M1 carbines they are in business to make as much money as they can.
 
M1 Carbine Rack Grade on CMP

The only choices left are Standard Products or IBM for Rack Grade. Any thoughts or experiences?
 
CMP has been selling a huge shipment of Italian-return carbines over the past several months and has come to the end of that "program", hence the dearth of currently-available carbines. They say they have more in the warehouse from another "return" but won't be selling them for another few months. If you can stand the wait, I suggest holding off until CMP releases the "new" shipment.

In the interim, why not pick up a Springfield Armory or a Harrington & Richardson Garand? CMP has some Winchester Garands that they are working on and will probably offer them for sale later this year. M1917 Enfields are scheduled for sale in September as well.

As for ammo, you should remember that the carbines went out of production many years ago and the .30 Carbine ammunition is "niche" ammo - how many firearms other than the M1 Carbine use it? CMP has .30 carbine at $155/500 rounds - I have 3,000+ rounds and will be buying more. CMP contracted with Aquila for a metric shiite-load of it - don't know how much they still have or if they will be able to get more when this lot runs out.

If you are interested in carbines, I suggest you get into reloading because you aren't likely to find it on the shelves at ChinaMart or your local Bait-N-Ammo. (Since it is NOT a necked case, it's easy to reload - about like reloading .357 Magnum.) I picked up Hornady 110 grain FMJ bullets from Midway and from Widener's for less than fifteen cents per within the past several months.
 
Century also has M1 Carbines in fits and starts, I got one from them last year that looked like hell but shoots great! Ammo is made in .30 carbine by many major manufacturers, the S&B is good and I just got some Magtech that I haven't tried yet. It's really not that hard to find.

Has anyone used the Aquila stuff from CMP yet? What's it like? It is reasonably priced, I think.
 
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