Major virtue of a revolver

Seems posters are getting into the realm of the
revolver vs. auto debate. :(

But to again say it, the revolver's main virtue is
its ability to handle such a wide spectrum of
ammo power levels for all sorts of purposes.
It is not dependent on the ammo to operate.
 
Seems posters are getting into the realm of the
revolver vs. auto debate. :(

But to again say it, the revolver's main virtue is
its ability to handle such a wide spectrum of
ammo power levels for all sorts of purposes.
It is not dependent on the ammo to operate.
That's a reason why I love 'em. I can shoot powder puff loads in .44 Russian in my S&W Model 29 up to some pretty heavy stuff in yhe same cylinder. And they all work.
 
Guns are like women. They come in all shapes and sizes and there's bound to be something out there attractive to any given person.

That big ole cylinder of a revolver has Freddy Mercury's voice ringing in my head:

"Fat Bottom Girls Guns, you make the rockin' world go 'round!"
Plus, unlike women. Guns don't get jealous if you handle another one.
 
I was out Friday teaching a friend to shoot a Model 10 S&W 38spl revolver.
He was having issues keeping it on the paper so we moved a lot closer to the target. At 3 yards, 9ft he was on the paper.

I also had to try shooting at that distance. I put all 6 into a nickle sized group.

I also had him shoot my CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical. It's the heaviest semi-auto pistol I own. He was similarly bad with it.
 
This is not an original thought nor necessarily something that
hasn't been said before.

But the major virtue of a revolvers, reason to like them so much,
is that they are not ammo dependent to operate.
The singular one major virtue?

How about this: safest administrative handling, and the most difficult to have an inadvertent discharge with.
 
I was taught, and taught others, to dump the brass on the ground, reload and get back to what you were doing.

Kevin

Personally, I agree. I personally think reloading a revolver efficiently is an important skill when running a revolver. Whether training for SD or just wanting to be a good & complete revolver shooter, the commonly-held "not having to pick up brass" shouldn't be regarded as one of the benefits of revolver shooting, IMO.

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Research the Newhall Incident where several CA Highway Patrol officers lost their lives. IIRC officers died with empty brass in their pocket or in their hand as that's what they did on the range.

OTOH if testing loads from a bench I dump my brass into a brass can. If doing a qual course or practicing tactical shooting, the brass and speedloader or speedstrip get dumped. Usually easier to find than brass from a semiautomatic.
 
Research the Newhall Incident where several CA Highway Patrol officers lost their lives. IIRC officers died with empty brass in their pocket or in their hand as that's what they did on the range.

OTOH if testing loads from a bench I dump my brass into a brass can. If doing a qual course or practicing tactical shooting, the brass and speedloader or speedstrip get dumped. Usually easier to find than brass from a semiautomatic.
It was also the incident that got "patrol rifles" to be a thing. They were facing suspects that were armed with long guns, all while they just had handguns.

The San Bernardino Sheriff ordered Ruger Mini-14s the day after it happened and equipped his deputies with 'em.
 
Research the Newhall incident: https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/...e Brass Myth,out that probably never happened.



Done by people I know well - so that's the truth about it. No brass in pocket.

The major virtue of the revolver for me are the great pocket guns for NPE or dress circumstances. The new SW J's look neat. Also for confrontations were a draw from a pocket works better as a surreptitious ploy than going for a belt gun. Got to train up with them. There's no real comparison of reload speed. Most of us are not putting in Jerry time with modified, moon clip guns. Not that you aren't well defended with a revolver in the one to two opponent show with not needing that much time in the fight. But this is old, old ground.
 
It was also the incident that got "patrol rifles" to be a thing. They were facing suspects that were armed with long guns, all while they just had handguns.

The San Bernardino Sheriff ordered Ruger Mini-14s the day after it happened and equipped his deputies with 'em.
Good point! Although I think it was the bank robbery where the responding LEOs had to borrow ARs from gun shops that really woke up administrators.

My go to long gun was a AR or M4 most of the time.
 
Research the Newhall incident: https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/gunfight-myth-a-pocket-full-of-brass/#:~:text=The Brass Myth,out that probably never happened.



Done by people I know well - so that's the truth about it. No brass in pocket.

The major virtue of the revolver for me are the great pocket guns for NPE or dress circumstances. The new SW J's look neat. Also for confrontations were a draw from a pocket works better as a surreptitious ploy than going for a belt gun. Got to train up with them. There's no real comparison of reload speed. Most of us are not putting in Jerry time with modified, moon clip guns. Not that you aren't well defended with a revolver in the one to two opponent show with not needing that much time in the fight. But this is old, old ground.
I, like many others, heard about the brass in the pocket. It waa dramatized in recreations.
 
A dud round that will choke a semiauto is cured by another trigger pull from a DA revolver.
Indeed. Conversely, a squib which doesn’t cycle and may lock up an auto (giving you time to think about what’s happening) might not lock up a revolver if the bullet makes it fully into the barrel. The ones I’ve seen usually did clear the forcing cone. Gotta pay attention.
 
Not only have I chosen the revolver as my personal defense sidearm, but the Single Action revolver at that. And this a Ruger Blackhawk. Why?

Because it is the firearm with which I am most familiar. Reaching and grasping the butt, my hand naturally curls around the grip, thumb on the hammer, trigger finger near the trigger. My draw is smooth, fast and brings my gun up level, hammer cocked, finger pressing the trigger as the gun comes level. I've practiced this enough, and at times used it with live ammunition. No pistol fits my hand like a Single Action revolver. And, the Ruger does indeed allow six shots to be carried safely. I have carried oldder types with five without any problem.

So, if you can pull your auto pistol with the same speed and accuracy, and its like an extension of your hand, then that sjuits you fine. But, as for me, its this set-up:




Bob Wright
 
I was taught, and taught others, to dump the brass on the ground, reload and get back to what you were doing.

Kevin
for a reload drill sure, but - for the most part I just put the brass into my pocket or directly back into the box it came out of.
 
Not only have I chosen the revolver as my personal defense sidearm, but the Single Action revolver at that. And this a Ruger Blackhawk. Why?

Because it is the firearm with which I am most familiar. Reaching and grasping the butt, my hand naturally curls around the grip, thumb on the hammer, trigger finger near the trigger. My draw is smooth, fast and brings my gun up level, hammer cocked, finger pressing the trigger as the gun comes level. I've practiced this enough, and at times used it with live ammunition. No pistol fits my hand like a Single Action revolver. And, the Ruger does indeed allow six shots to be carried safely. I have carried oldder types with five without any problem.

So, if you can pull your auto pistol with the same speed and accuracy, and its like an extension of your hand, then that sjuits you fine. But, as for me, its this set-up:




Bob Wright
Jeff Cooper smoked checked a Japanese Soldier during the early campaigns in WWII. He said he switched to the 1911 because reloading the SAA sucked in the dark.

As for carrying a SAA today. I do it every once in a while. Mernickle makes great holsters for CCW.
 
Everything seems to be about self defense today, not just shooting for fun. I am with DukeConner about the brass.I AM smart enough that if caught in a gunfight with a revolver that would go out the window if a reload was needed.

:thumbup: Mr. Wright. I understand.
I enjoy firearms because I enjoy 'em. That means for fun, hunting, self-defense, collecting, etc... I have a pile of revolvers because I like 'em. It just happens to be that they make good self-defense tools too.
 
So, eliminate the defense/combat scenerios and limit the subject ot sport shooting/hunting.

For the general rule, the revolver, the magnum revolver, is much better suited for game animals that the run ofthe mill auto loader. Certainly the big special porpuse auto is capable in the hands of those adherents, as is the single shot rifle caliber handguns. But, since my side arm is a Sngle Action, I'll continue to hunt, plink and shoot with the Skingle Action revolver.

As to reloading in the dark, if you can't see your weapon, more than likely you should not have fired in the first place.

For all sport shooting, it does not matter what handgun one chooses.

Bob Wright
 
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Bad guys travel in packs. No one has ever been in a gunfight and wished they had a smaller caliber gun or less ammunition.

Now, that doesn't mean the revolver is a bad choice. It just means you need to know the limitations of the platform and how to work it. I mostly carry revolvers since I hanged up the badge. But I train with revolvers, carry speed loaders, know how to do one-handed reload drills, etc...

But the bottom feeder with 17rds or more is a better choice. I just personally accept the limitations of the revolver and have trained to work around it.
Where do you live, and what illegal activities
are you involved in where you are being attacked by a pack of armed bad guys intent on seeing you dead? Newsflash, a 17 rounder isn't going to save your butt either going against several armed attackers intent on killing you. I assure you that you'll run out of ammo before they do, especially being many carry Glocks with 33 round mags and AK/AR pistols.

Internet gun forum Rambo rhetoric aside, most bad guys will run. They are typically only interested in obtaining an inanimate object and aren't interested in a long, drawn-out gun fight with the goal being to put us 6ft under. They only will put forth that effort to kill a rival or someone they have a grudge against. Most, if not all, of us don't even live in or around the drug infested high crime Democrat hellholds that these bad guys live in.

For realistic scenarios I will be in that don't involve taking on armies, drug cartels, and several heavily armed thugs, I think revolvers have a great advantage. Two of those advantages are the ability to fire multiple rounds from the pocket. I can have my hand on my firearm in my pocket at the ready as soon as I perceive a threat without catching a brandishing charge. I can get a shot off first and faster well before a bad guy knows what happened, even if they got the drop on me first. I feel better with a revolver in my had in those situations vs a Glock 17 in a holster.

Next is that many fights and altercations are at bad breath distances and involve a struggle, and even many end up on the ground. With a revolver, I can make contact shots without a malfunction. I can also make multiple shots while in a struggle with a weaker grip on the gun without inducing a limp-wrist malfunction.
 
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Where do you live, and what illegal activities
are you involved in where you are being attacked by a pack of armed bad guys intent on seeing you dead? Newsflash, a 17 rounder isn't going to save your butt either going against several armed attackers intent on killing you. I assure you that you'll run out of ammo before they do, especially being many carry Glocks with 33 round mags and AK/AR pistols.

Internet gun forum Rambo rhetoric aside, most bad guys will run. They are typically only interested in obtaining an inanimate object and aren't interested in a long, drawn-out gun fight with the goal being to put us 6ft under. They only will put forth that effort to kill a rival or someone they have a grudge against. Most, if not all, of us don't even live in or around the drug infested high crime Democrat hellholds that these bad guys live in.

For realistic scenarios I will be in that don't involve taking on armies, drug cartels, and several heavily armed thugs, I think revolvers have a great advantage. Two of those advantages are the ability to fire multiple rounds from the pocket. I can have my hand on my firearm in my pocket at the ready as soon as I perceive a threat without catching a brandishing charge. I can get a shot off first and faster well before a bad guy knows what happened, even if they got the drop on me first. I feel better with a revolver in my had in those situations vs a Glock 17 in a holster.

Next is that many fights and altercations are at bad breath distances and involve a struggle, and even many end up on the ground. With a revolver, I can make contact shots without a malfunction. I can also make multiple shots while in a struggle with a weaker grip on the gun without inducing a limp-wrist malfunction.
I'm a former cop, who's the public face of a national gun rights organization. I have received death threats, have had my tires slashed and windows smashed, and have been stalked. I've had threats made against my wife too because of who I am.

I spend half my time in major cities across the country, some of which have revolving-door criminal justice systems in place.

There's a reason why as a cop, even a plainclothes agent, I carried a G17 and 17rd mags with +2s on 'em.

Again, since I've hanged up the badge, I mostly carry revolvers. But I carry speed loaders and speed strips with it.
 
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