Man arrested at LAX for having guns.

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The same California where the BART cop that shot an unarmed and restrained man in the back and killed him last week still hasn't been charged with *anything*. (at least the AG has appointed a special prosecutor to make sure the Internal Investigation doesn't just whitewash it. We'll see...)

But back to Mr. Dominguez, do you think the NRA will assist with the case -- the appeal, anyway?
 
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If he had loaded magazines they consider magazines extensions of the firearm so in Kali talk he had a truck full of loaded guns.
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PLEASE do not spread false information. The law is quite specific that loaded magazines are NOT "weapons" until and unless they are connected to the firearm. In California you can waltz around in public with a visible loaded magazine and you have NOT committed any crime.
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Not really false info. Actually, "connection" to a weapon is usually interpreted to mean if both are within easy reach and especially if the gun is not in a locked case. If you unload your gun and throw it in the back seat in a soft zipper case and put your loaded mags in the glove box, you still have a "loaded" gun, which is what I think the first quote meant. A lot of people get busted when they use this bit of common sense. Having loaded mags in a locked trunk with firearms is an oft debated scenario as to legality, but I think in Cali it is better to be safe than sorry.

Also depends on who you mean by "they". Letter of the law? The second part of the quote above is technically true, but what matters when its you being searched is what the cop thinks is true, then later on what the DA thinks is true. If the cops think you are trouble they will often arrest and sort it out later. If the prosecutor argues that a loaded magazine is a loaded weapon and you are not articulate enough to argue it, and the judge does not have knowledge of the subject, then that is what you will be busted for. DA's and the police are always trying to test interpretations of the law in the system, just look at the court wrangling over if one-handed knives are switchblades, or New York's constant enforcement of their law over federal when it comes to HR 218 or air transport law.

We were instructed to consider a loaded mag in the same general area as the firearm to be loaded. But then again, we were also told to be loose in the interpretation if the person was obviously not a criminal or gang member type.
 
Guess jumping to conclusions is more fun than actually informing yourself before typing up a "California!!!" post.

Per the links, the gentleman was arrested for violating California penal code 12280A1.

"12280. (a) (1) Any person who, within this state, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, distributes, transports, or imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives or lends any assault weapon or any .50 BMG rifle, except as provided by this chapter, is guilty of a felony, and upon conviction shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for four, six, or eight years." Cite.

As for the checkpoint, locals will understand that the area in question is not "Just a road near an airport". It is the main road that goes nowhere BUT the airport. If you are on it at the point mentioned, you are going to LAX whether you want to or not. Being as the Republicans have continually reminded us that "9-11 changed everything!!!" police checkpoints on airport roads are only to be expected. Don't forget to thank that eternal defender of civil rights, Karl Rove.

Now, the "assault rifle" law is obviously stupid, and the idea that it is dangerous to have a gun in the vicinity of an airport is obviously stupid too. But the basic fact of the matter is that the gentleman transported an illegal gun through a police checkpoint.

Oops.
 
.38 Special, please be aware that facts are not welcome in this forum. This forum is to be used only for raving about the BATFE, homicidal BART cops and the liberal mainstream media. ;)

Seriously, thanks for providing the information.
 
Per the news this evening he is being charged with the illegal transportation of an assault weapon. They are not charging him with possession of an assault weapon.

As stated above, assault weapons must be transported directly to the range, and they must be accompanied with their registration. It sounds as though they are getting this guy for either not having his paperwork or for stopping at the airport before going to the range. Either way, it's pretty dumb. I wish I would be on his jury.
Mauserguy
 
"Assault weapons."

I hate California with an intensity that I can't even begin to convey. That place is literally hell on earth. It is the most overrated place in the entire universe. And it has quite literally a communist government. Nobody in their right mind should live there.
 
"Assault weapons."

I hate California with an intensity that I can't even begin to convey. That place is literally hell on earth. It is the most overrated place in the entire universe. And it has quite literally a communist government. Nobody in their right mind should live there.
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Nobody in their right mind should live there.
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Depends on which part of the state. If you look at one of those blue/red political maps you see that most of the state, geographically, is conservative. I lived in the valley for seven years and with the exception of college towns, they're mostly down to earth people.

The problem is that the population masses are centered in sewers like San Fran, LA, Sacramento, etc.

Those are the animals that screw everything up.
 
Text from the above linked article quoted below.

The bolded text is what he was charged with.

We have this type of law here in NJ. Only one step further. All our firearms can only be transported to and from a legal place to possess the firearms, e.g. range, hunting, gunsmith. You are allowed reasonable stops. The only problem with that is there is no no definition of what is reasonable.

He's absolutely right about a law that ostensibly targets felons and criminals is being applied to an otherwise law abiding citizen. I hope the best for him. This situation is one I fear if I get stopped between home and the range.
LOS ANGELES - The man arrested at Los Angeles International Airport with a trunk full of guns and nearly 1,000 rounds of ammunition said Saturday that he is a law-abiding weapons enthusiast who had no idea he might be breaking the law.

A day after he was arrested for suspicion of felony transportation of an assault rifle, Phillip Dominguez said he's confident he'll be exonerated.

"Our Second Amendment rights are being trampled in the name of law enforcement," Dominguez said. "I'm a law-abiding, taxpaying gun enthusiast. I have no felonies - up until now."

Airport police saw it a little differently.

"He just made a very bad decision, and should not have been carrying those weapons," airport police Sgt. Jim Holcomb said on Friday. A call to an airport police spokesman seeking comment was not immediately returned Saturday.

Dominguez, 47, of Orange, said he went to LAX to pick up a friend from Baltimore on Friday. They intended to go target shooting at an outdoor range in San Bernardino County.

As Dominguez entered the airport's ring road, his truck was pulled over for inspection. Dominguez says he knew police would want to look inside the locked cover of the truck bed so he got out, opened it and declared that he had firearms there.

Dominguez said he had 16 pistols, including an 1858 black-powder Army revolver. He also had five rifles - one of them an assault rifle - and nearly 1,000 rounds of ammunition.

Dominguez said he didn't think he was breaking any
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laws since all the weapons and ammo were in separate, locked boxes. At least half a dozen times since Thanksgiving, Dominguez said he made similar stops at the airport carrying his guns and never saw a police checkpoint.

He showed officials the paperwork proving the assault rifle was registered and gave them the keys and combinations of all the lockboxes, he said. The Bushmaster "Shorty," a semiautomatic rifle modeled on the military's AR15, was the reason he was finally arrested.

"It posed no threat to nobody," said Dominguez.

Dominguez said he got state permission to own and use the assault rifle last month but the approval letter didn't mention it was illegal in California to make a pit stop while transporting the weapon from his home to the gun range.

That code requires that "registered assault weapons may be transported only between specified locations," according to the Web site of the California attorney general's office.

Dominguez said he was handcuffed, taken to a jail, and held for six hours before he was booked. He was released at around 11 p.m. after his family posted $50,000 bail. But his guns and his truck were confiscated.

He faces a Feb. 6 arraignment.

Dominguez, who owns a construction company, says he doesn't blame airport authorities for stopping his truck for inspection but he believes he isn't the target of the gun law.

"I am being charged for a law that is meant for ex-felons and bank robbers, that kind of individual," Dominguez said.

Dominguez says some Internet writers have been questioning his intelligence - if not his sanity - for hauling his stash of handguns and rifles to a place where folks might be jittery about terrorism.

The man who owns about 80 guns, however, remains defiant and said he'll be well-armed in a different way when he confronts his accusers in court.

"I'm contacting their worst nightmare - an attorney," he said.
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Depends on which part of the state. If you look at one of those blue/red political maps you see that most of the state, geographically, is conservative. I lived in the valley for seven years and with the exception of college towns, they're mostly down to earth people.

The problem is that the population masses are centered in sewers like San Fran, LA, Sacramento, etc.

Those are the animals that screw everything up.
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Problem is, they screw everything up even if you're not in one of those parts.
 
There's the problem:

As Dominguez entered the airport's ring road, his truck was pulled over for inspection. Dominguez says he knew police would want to look inside the locked cover of the truck bed so he got out, opened it and declared that he had firearms there.
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Don't ask; don't tell.

Doc2005
 
said he'll be well-armed in a different way when he confronts his accusers
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I hate to break the news, but if this is true.......

That code requires that "registered assault weapons may be transported only between specified locations," according to the Web site of the California attorney general's office.
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......he's out of luck. If it's law, then the best he can hope for is a plea bargain. Kalifornistan is very unforgiving of even the most minor gun law violations.

Problem is, they screw everything up even if you're not in one of those parts.
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The worst part is when they immigrate to civilization and screw up those places. Viz. Oregon, Washington State, Denver, Boulder, Tulsa, Nashville, Austin, et al.



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another person was just arrested. for a 12 gauge and 20 gauge shotgun

apparently un registered



umm..... im sorry, since when did you have to register a NON AW long gun in the state of CA?

ill answer that. you dont
 
EVERYTHINGS illegal in Kommie fornia, except sodomy.
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Now, about this time the Sodomites, overwhelmingly proud of their numbers and the extent of their wealth, showed themselves insolent to men and impious to the divinity, insomuch that they no more remembered the benefits that they had received from him, hated foreigners and avoided any contact with others. Indignant at this conduct, God accordingly resolved to chastise them for their arrogance, and not only to uproot their city, but to blast their land so completely that it should yield neither plant nor fruit whatsoever from that time forward.
 
If you're going to live in a state that is well known for having restrictive gun laws and you choose to drive around with 37 firearms in your vehicle, you'd better be cognizant of the laws, like them or not. This guy has no one to blame but himself.

BTW, overnight the weapon count somehow went from 37 to 21. What's up with that?
 
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I agree, in theory people should be cognizant of the law, but in California the gun laws, among others, are very confusing and contradictory. Our AG's office has reversed its own findings several times on various assault weapons interpretations because the laws are so badly written. Its not fair to hold average citizens, people who work for a living, accountable for such poorly written codes. It's just unfair.

This guy was just trying to have fun with a buddy after picking him up at the airport. There was no mallice there. Every one of us in California has probably broken some law at one time or another. Where's the ill intent? I feel sympathy for this guy.
Mauserguy
 
it doesn't matter if you know the laws. for every person that knows the law there is 3 cops that dont and vise versa. especially when it comes to guns. if you get pulled over in CA, and you get ****ed with for guns, you should really keep your mouth shut and call a lawyer. and thats really any time you get falsely detained or arrested. not just with guns


unless you know someone in the precinct, you are not going to be anyones hero for playing mr know it all and mr. "look at me,i can recite all the penal codes". they dont care.


but you should. because after your charges get dropped (if you arent committing a crime) its time to get that cop fired for false arrest.
 
arrested for investigation of weapons transportation violations.
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What the hell? Since when can you be arrested to help with a mere investigation? :scrutiny: How about a CHARGE accompanying the arrest? So he's being held without charges? Sounds like the freakin Gestapo to me.
 
Kalifornistan is very unforgiving of even the most minor gun law violations.
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That's quite a generalization, what are you basing that on? I know of two individuals who live near me, who were each stopped and found to have loaded handguns in their cars, without a carry permit. Both were allowed to proceed home with their guns after their respective stops.
I agree, in theory people should be cognizant of the law, but in California the gun laws, among others, are very confusing and contradictory. Our AG's office has reversed its own findings several times on various assault weapons interpretations because the laws are so badly written. Its not fair to hold average citizens, people who work for a living, accountable for such poorly written codes. It's just unfair.
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I will second that. Prior to buying my 7.62 Saiga, I wanted to be absolutely certain that it was legal for me to own, so I called the DOJ. Oh how I wish I would have recorded that call. First the guy told me he had "no way of knowing" whether the gun was legal. Then he told me that would have to me determined by my local law enforcement agency. I pressed him, insisting that the DOJ should be the final authority in determining which guns are and are not currently legal.

Finally he agreed, and grudgingly told me that the gun was legal, but that it was "gray area", and I really shouldn't buy it. So I pressed him more, "IS IT LEGAL OR NOT?!", and he finally said it was indeed legal, and that I would suffer no repercussions for buying it. After all of that BS he tried to get friendly with me and talk about guns, like he was my range buddy or something.

It was just silly. If you can't even call the DOJ and find out whether a particular gun is legal or not, what are you supposed to do?

By the way, do they just do random vehicle stops and searches at LAX now?
 
Now it's happened twice in 24 hrs. Another guy had hi s12 & 20 gauge "high powered" shotguns.

Oh yea and they werent, "registered", guess what there is no registration. LAPD has his firearms, good luck in getting them back.

Would someone please bring some law to this city. Please. Is it time for another Federal Concent decree.

The fist guy with the 15/16, can't get it stratight, his only infraction appears to be a transportation of a registered assult weapon issue. basically the law in CA says you can travel with a registered assult rifle if you go directly from home to the range. He stopped to pick up his buddy at the airport before going to shoot in the desert. It's a very mino technicality IMHO. He will be without his rifle for a while though. The second guy had his cased, unloaded shotguns confiscated for, "not being registered". There is NO LAW in CA where a rifle or shotgun requires registration.

We live in a police state here. IT will only get worse with the economy.
 
There are still free States in this country.

Move to one.

I married a California girl in the early 70's while in the Corps. When I left the Corps, I refused to live in California. Although I am from Florida, the compromise was Arizona.

Very happy here. And as the years go on, my opinion gets lower and lower of California. Like many a socialist paradise, there are reasons to live there, that make putting up with the lack of freedom and liberty worth it. I don't see it.

The part that has me fascinated is the number of folks still there. Don't whine, leave.

Go figure.

Fred
 
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