Gordon
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I never shopped at WalmartVeteran Walmart shoppers already know to do this.
I did spend about $100K in training last 40 years, before that got paid for it .
I never shopped at WalmartVeteran Walmart shoppers already know to do this.
What does that mean?
So maybe cops and legally-armed civies need to adhere to the 50-ft Rule for shooting an attacker rushing at them with an edged-weapon?
I remember back in the late 90's researching the stats on this, and it was running about 15% according to FBI numbers. The increasing introduction of L2/3 duty holsters and more attention to DT seemed to be bringing the numbers down as the 2000's rolled around.... Look up the stats on officers killed with their own weapons each year - during my era it was about one third of all officer deaths around the country ...
Indeed. However, looking at the environment where the individual (RP? Suspect? Witness?) was standing, the cop could've easily paused a moment at 7-10yds to ask/confirm if the individual was the RP. Normal verbal engagement during a normal approach. Sure, the suspect could've lied and tried to lure the cop in for the ambush attack, anyway.That cop did nothing wrong. LE doesn’t approach typical calls for service from 20 yards away and demand folks show their hands. No time to get of the X or draw a gun either.
Hard truth- it’s easy to kill anyone if you have the element of surprise and are committed. Murder isn’t hard.
As a long standing patrol cop, I stay in shape/train but that could happen to me tomorrow.
We all pays our money and takes our chances.
Tragic incident, but he should have stopped at a distance.the cop could've easily paused a moment at 7-10yds to ask/confirm if the individual was the RP.
An excellent question.
If you're walking down the street and someone attacks you, who is to blame for the attack?
Pick a number of scenarios and think about it, with the only stipulation being that the person walking down the street isn't doing so in a credibly threatening way.
The person who makes the decision to attack another bears the responsibility for the assault.
However, the person walking down the street is ultimately responsible for their own safety.
The phrase "don't do stupid things at stupid times with stupid people in stupid places" comes to mind.
The fact that ant given person OUGHT to be able to walk down a given street at any time without being attacked does not belie the fact that there ARE people out there who would do them harm if given the chance.
That person has little, if any, control over a would-be attacker. But they DO have a LOT of control over their own actions. Their choices are important in this aspect.
I've been 'magnetized' lately, meaning I've been meeting increasingly more cops in my circle of folks at my cigar club. Most have only 10-15yrs on the job, and they've been talking about the usual subjects of buying homes and new trucks, daily LE activities and politics (and how it affects the way they do their jobs). However, the ones I've been meeting, and already know, with maybe 3 or fewer years to go before they're eligible to retire? They can see the light at the end of the tunnel and they're busy making plans to bail at the earliest time possible.... I talk with Sheriff friends privately almost every day, they are counting days till retirement and they love what they do and are my first line of protection .
With training it's not difficult to shoot at 50 yards. It's not the distance that makes the grandmaster, it's the speed at which they can shoot at such distance.50 yards? So 150-ft? That's IPSC grandmaster distance. Are you at Ben Stoeger's level?
Well, at my last firearms instructor update before retirement, they were still requiring the instructor/students to shoot a scored course-of-fire that went out to 50yds (silhouette targets). We had to do it with duty pistols using normal irons ... and then again with the sights taped over (front & rear). It used to be basic stuff, but some of the younger instructors struggled a bit. Guess they didn't come up learning how to shoot revolvers in DA at 50yds.With training it's not difficult to shoot at 50 yards. It's not the distance that makes the grandmaster, it's the speed at which they can shoot at such distance.
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Well, at my last firearms instructor update before retirement, they were still requiring the instructor/students to shoot a scored course-of-fire that went out to 50yds (silhouette targets). We had to do it with duty pistols using normal irons ... and then again with the sights taped over (front & rear). It used to be basic stuff, but some of the younger instructors struggled a bit. Guess they didn't come up learning how to shoot revolvers in DA at 50yds.
For sure. It really just comes down to rock solid fundamentals and decent eyes. I think too many shooters handicap themselves by believing that 25 yards is a long shot and never pushing their limits.
Sgt. Adam Johnson was reportedly holding a pair of horses by the reins when he spotted the shooter firing at the police headquarters building. Holding the horses’ reins in one hand, he drew and aimed his .40-caliber pistol with his other hand, and squeezed off a shot.
It isn't THAT hard to hit an IPSC target at 50 yards with a full size pistol.50 yards? So 150-ft? That's IPSC grandmaster distance. Are you at Ben Stoeger's level?
That has been my experience also. It's just a matter of doing it enough to know that you can.It isn't THAT hard to hit an IPSC target at 50 yards with a full size pistol.